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Who copes the most in the To Aru fandom? Those who wish Accelerator was the MC or those who wish Mikoto is the MC? :mjgrin

I just noticed that Accelerator's illustration has a dumbbell by the side. Place your bets now. Accel is going end the fight with can of whoop ass (pure hands) on Trimegistus.

Fair point. This discussion about souls and stuff brings to mind another topic though. Paxton, you at least believe Othinus destroyed the earth, right? Most of the humans in setting died. Just asking to confirm.

Sounds like you are splitting hairs here. Izzard had those students resurrected. Othinus could resurrect people as Valkyries. There's an entire field of magic called Necromancy in Toaru which can be summarized as 'calling up the dead'. Whatever 'True proper resurrection' is supposed to mean, all those examples I've provided proves that wherever the dead go to in Toaru it isn't particularly hard to contact them. How do you reconcile that with this part of the scan?

It's not actually all that hard in Toaru given we have multiple resurrections in setting. NT 9

The thing is Kingsford only uses 'basic magic'. That's the point. The basic magician would definitely not be able to use other four world techniques. So Kingsford proves that it's possible for a magician to outscale their own magic as you are putting it. No need for them to be exactly as skilled as Kingsford. It just needs to be possible. Coupled with the better feats magic gods have well...

Just finally noticed Paxton and Astaro's fight lol. @Paxton have you forgotten Anna Kingsford. By your logic she also like top five of the verse currently but she only uses stuff novice magicians can do except mastered to the extreme. Novice magicians can't even imagine to do super special stuff like pure elements, beriah laws, and what not. Yet Kingsford can throw down with the very strongest without exclusive perks. That means in the end. All those unique and special powers in Toaru are flavouring and aesthetics. You don't need to climb a tree or do some meta bullshit. You can match the strongest with the basics. All that matters is feats because Toaru system lets you do pretty much anything with time. Anything. And magic gods have the best feats.

The only set of people I've seen running on pure head canon than the Toaru fandom are SB/SV fanfic writers. People are using fear aura as an argument in that vs battle thread when Misha could straight up one shot people with killing intent. There's straight up death hax from pure fear in the setting. There's literally no accurate complete power scaling thread for Toaru on the internet. None.

I vaguely remember it being mentioned in this thread that True Gremlin might not be able to use Aleister's exact spells because they operated on different fundamentals. I've been thinking "what about Index?". Is there any part of Toaru magic system that Index knowledge does not cover?

This manga cover... Too awesome! :amazing That's it. I'm going to start writing my index magician fanfic on qq. Wish me luck.

:whathekong Christian Magicians are just built different, I guess. Apparently literally.

Can Accelerator from the very beginning of the series (OT 3) beat up every level 5 (plus their crew) if they were to gang up on him? I think he could (low diff) but a sizable number of the Toaru fanbase (especially the fanfiction crowd on SB) believe otherwise. So I'm curious, am I right or is my vision being blocked by the mist of excess fanboy-ism.

? What's that rainbow beam that Qliphah Puzzle 545 fired off supposed to be?

Tbh I can't remember if it's said anywhere that they are related.

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Even assuming it was an incomplete version that Accel deflected. It wouldn't change anything for current Accel scaling. The only thing the complete version would have against this hypothetical incomplete version would be more raw power as it's fundamentally the same spell. It's practically a rule in To Aru that adding more power to something that Vector Change already redirects is an exercise in futility. There's that afterword in NT 4 where Kamachi confirms Vector Change has an infinite ceiling.

Isn't it already threadmarked in this respect thread? Edit: https://onelastforum.com/threads/to-aru-majutsu-no-index-feats-discussion-analysis-thread-toumas-boogaloo-edition.1410/post-62686

From OT 20, the prologue.

Do we know how big the rest of the four worlds is compared to the surface? Or if the human world is the entire Assiah? It maybe just 1/infinity% of the verse. Never lose hope for megaversal To Aru. :mjgrin Personally I think it's infinite in speed, despite the noises people make It's stated to be dodgeable, Hamazura dodged it yada yada. It's there in the incantation that there's a circle of infinite acceleration. I don't see why it isn't literal in this case. Also Gungir straight up stops time and compress the universe when thrown. Why M:F_S that's supposed to rival it in power still finite in speed is a logic I don't understand.

They probably never needed to. Their mere opinions already mod To Aru verse into whatever they like. I wouldn't be surprised if even Othinus herself was subject to the Destiny hax. The most probable reason Aleister could manage was because Aiwass pure world shenanigans which comes with the premium cause and effect manipulation abilities from the little we see from Lilith.