Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Adamant soul]

Nero (Devil May Cry 5) vs Gawain (Fate)

Battle to death, KO or incapacitation. No knowledge No prep In character Battle takes place in an open American Football Stadium. Both start 50 meters apart. Nero is from the end of Devil May Cry 5 and has one of each Devil Breaker at his disposal. Gawain has Leo Harwey as his Master. Round...

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Sorry Nero... but you're deadweight.

RUN Nero, that nigga has Excalibur, he'll straight nuke your ass. Use that time slow devil breaker and get the fuck out of there.

Seriously why they gotta do Nero dirty like this?

 

[Type-Rey]

that nigga has Excalibur

Galatine.

Not the same thing.
I like how to add insult to injury they gave Gawain Leo as a master

 

[Paxton]

Three-Way Brawl: Touma Kamijou vs Issei Hyoudou vs Shirou Emiya

Rensa #28 only cared about testing his power, while #29 hated his guts. What are they doing on this list? And Kazakiri, if anything, is his daughter, not a love interest. Better than post-amnesia, at least. The whole issue here is that the event that put this love into existence happened...

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The Invisible Thing DOESN'T fluctuate in power, it's explicitly been getting stronger throughout the series.

 

[Adamant soul]

Galatine.

Not the same thing.

Ah I see, my mistake.

Still the point stands on Nero getting nuked.

 

[Adamant soul]

And we got another one.

Its Luffy

I remember there was that page where Kaidou was said to have been captured or defeated like 25 times or whatever the exact number was. My first thought was "I wonder if Luffy already overtook him".

He hasn't even had 10 losses in the entire series so no, he hasn't.

 

[GaRbS]

That was filler

All the content in the DBS anime is canon, there is no filler like in the DBZ anime.

That doesn't even begin to make sense. Radiation is not the same as a Hydra Venom even from the start(Not to mention DB HAS things like that with the Magical Poison Water he used to get a boost against DK Piccolo and Lavender's poison). Radiation melts your cells, poison breaks down your insides through various means. Space is full of Radiation yet Frieza at his weakest survived that too no problem.
Unless the Radiation itself is special(Which Garou's isn't), then it works like any type of Radiation.

Freeza is specifically noted to be capable of surviving a lot of stuff that other beings can't, such as being sliced into pieces. There's no reason to assume that other characters could survive radiation based on Freeza being able to survive in outer space. Not to mention the amount and kind of radiation that Garou emits is different and greater than just being in outer space without being near to any stars.

So we are going to ignore that Ki Blasts have been infused with Heat plenty of times? How you think that Planets be reducd to nothing? Or Piccolo and the Moon?

No one is denying that ki blasts are hot, I'm asking for evidence that they're as hot as the sun. As for how planets are reduced to nothing, I'll chalk that up to fictional energy having weird destructive capabilities.

The Ginyu Force are literally aliens themselves, why would they be anymore affected by Radiation than the Saiyans they see as inferior?

Why would they be resistant to radiation just from being aliens?

DB Goku survived Magical Poison Water which would kill him if he was too weak...

A poison of unknown strength.

Roshi's Electrical attack says otherwise as it still does what it did in DB and it gets stronger as he did.

Electricity of unknown power.

Goku has Kaioken which would further amp his stats... that's not close to a fair comparison there...

No, Goku defeated Recoome without using Kaioken, and even without using his full power at base state. Not to mention Goku and no one as strong as him is in that thread.

 

[Flowering Knight]

mountain level dbz lets goooooooooooo

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

@GaRbS Listen, I'm not going to go over this again and instead, I'll point you to @Thegoldenboy2188 's post awhile back on radiation:

Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Radahn literally uses Collapsing Stars against you, and The Tarnished can also learn that spell. Which he can also use against enemies. It's the one he used to stop the movement of the stars. Not combat applicable my glorious golden ass. they are saying collapsing stars isn't what he uses...

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Radiation is just energy, too much of one bit of energy with other types being more dangerous than others. This is why you can get skinburn and cancer from too much sunlight hitting you in a bad way and why other types of radiation can also be too dangerous for humans due to that extremely off amount of energy.

It's ultimately from heat and cold burns and DBZ fighters have suffered through those without a scratch at all.
Unless you have specific proof that Garou's "Cosmic Radiation" is far worse than a synthetic plague that the Galactic Police uses to wipe out an entire population of a planet that doesn't affect Saiyans even as babies, then this conversation is over.

 

[Masterblack06]

Freeza is specifically noted to be capable of surviving a lot of stuff that other beings can't, such as being sliced into pieces. There's no reason to assume that other characters could survive radiation based on Freeza being able to survive in outer space.

Being able to survive in space already means you can survive radiation pretty damn well. Space is filled with 3 different kinds of radiation for fucks sake man.

Not to mention the amount and kind of radiation that Garou emits is different and greater than just being in outer space without being near to any stars.

You have evidence that his radiation is greater or different than just being in outer space. The chapter just shows us that regular humans get absolutely fucked by the radiation he emits

 

[Paxton]

Composite Assassin (Fate) vs Akame Ga Kill

Composite starts in the Ban Tribe Village. Standard equipment. Everyone from AGK at their strongest. Everyone in AGK knows that there is a dangerous threat to their world appearing somewhere (they don't know where). Both sides get 1 day of prep. Everyone in character, though maintaining a...

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@Xhominid The Fool

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Composite Assassin (Fate) vs Akame Ga Kill

Composite starts in the Ban Tribe Village. Standard equipment. Everyone from AGK at their strongest. Everyone in AGK knows that there is a dangerous threat to their world appearing somewhere (they don't know where). Both sides get 1 day of prep. Everyone in character, though maintaining a...

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@Xhominid The Fool

Assassin

—Silent Killer and Heroic Spirit of Assassinations. Extremely skilled at covert, stealthy, and silent operations.— Assassins have a base damage multiplier of 0.9x. Assassins have a base star generation rate of 25%. Assassins have a base star absorption of 100. Assassins have a base death rate of...

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King Hassan alone would solo... hell, he wouldn't be the only one...
But I'm putting that list out so you can specifically see how horrifically Akame Ga Kill gets stomped even if you remove him.

 

[CrossTheHorizon]

Composite Assassin (Fate) vs Akame Ga Kill

Composite starts in the Ban Tribe Village. Standard equipment. Everyone from AGK at their strongest. Everyone in AGK knows that there is a dangerous threat to their world appearing somewhere (they don't know where). Both sides get 1 day of prep. Everyone in character, though maintaining a...

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@Xhominid The Fool

..........there's a Grand Servant and Two Beasts in that class :geg

 

[Paxton]

..........there's a Grand Servant and Two Beasts in that class :geg

Wait, who are the Beasts?

 

[Gordo]

A poison of unknown strength.

Yajirobe taking a tiny dab of it nearly choked him out

 

[Adamant soul]

https://www.fanverse.org/threads/which-hst-mc-is-the-biggest-jobber.1262412/#post-64623077

Don't know where you got these numbers from.

Certainly not from my ass, where you got your information from.

Luffy has lost to

1. Buggy

No he didn't

Being caught off guard and put in the gallows, is not a fight dipshit.

2. Smoker

Dude holds him down once before the fight is interrupted, that's not a loss.

And the fact you have to try and count that to make Luffy look worse speaks volumes.

Then again your name is Captain Quincy so I shouldn't be surprised.

This BTW is the same dipshit who tried to blame Orihime hate on the ANIME for those wondering.

3. Miss Goldenweek

If you mean the mind control girl, just fucking stop.

There was NO fight there at all, her powers worked on him and she was promptly beat by weaker characters.
Whoop de fucking do.

4. Crocodile
5. Crocodile again

Oh look there's two actual losses.

6. Enel

He never lost to Enel.

7. Aokiji
8. Lucci

Four actual losses.

9. Moria

He never lost to Moria, he in fact defeated him outright.

10. Kuma
11. Magellan

There's six

12. Marineford

You mean where he isn't even actually fighting them, he's just trying to run passed them and people are hitting him as a result.

Do you want me to bring up EoS Ichigo getting humiliated by Nazis due to the same exact thing.

13. Ceaser Clown

Luffy beat Ceaser.

14. Doflamingo

Luffy beat Doflamingo.

15. BM army

Nope

16. Katakuri

Seven

17. Kaido

Eight

18. Apoo

Nope

19. Kaido again
20. Kaido once more

Ten

Oh look the count was right and you're full of shit, fancy that.

And this is with bundling all MF losses into one and excluding some odd ones, both of which would really bloat that number.

Again he wasn't FIGHTING anyone in Marineford so counting that shit is disingenuous at best. Notice how you admit that it BLOATS the number, because that's all you're doing.

Trying to artifiially make Luffy seem worse by misrepresenting shit like you do all the time, although usually it's in favor of making something in bleach seem better than it is.

In comparison, Ichigo is second at 12 losses and Naruto is third at 9.

Except if you were applying the same standards for them, you're using for Luffy, their numbers would be a lot higher than that and you fucking know it.

 

[CrossTheHorizon]

Wait, who are the Beasts?

Kama/Mara, the other Half of Beast III, and Koyanskaya, (Sorta) Beast IV

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://www.fanverse.org/threads/which-hst-mc-is-the-biggest-jobber.1262412/#post-64623077

Certainly not from my ass, where you got your information from.

No he didn't

Being caught off guard and put in the gallows, is not a fight dipshit.

Dude holds him down once before the fight is interrupted, that's not a loss.

And the fact you have to try and count that to make Luffy look worse speaks volumes.

Then again your name is Captain Quincy so I shouldn't be surprised.

This BTW is the same dipshit who tried to blame Orihime hate on the ANIME for those wondering.

If you mean the mind control girl, just fucking stop.

There was NO fight there at all, her powers worked on him and she was promptly beat by weaker characters.
Whoop de fucking do.

Oh look there's two actual losses.

He never lost to Enel.

Four actual losses.

He never lost to Moria, he in fact defeated him outright.

There's six

You mean where he isn't even actually fighting them, he's just trying to run passed them and people are hitting him as a result.

Do you want me to bring up EoS Ichigo getting humiliated by Nazis due to the same exact thing.

Luffy beat Ceaser.

Luffy beat Doflamingo.

Nope

Seven

Eight

Nope

Ten

Oh look the count was right and you're full of shit, fancy that.

Again he wasn't FIGHTING anyone in Marineford so counting that shit is disingenuous at best. Notice how you admit that it BLOATS the number, because that's all you're doing.

Trying to artifiially make Luffy seem worse by misrepresenting shit like you do all the time, although usually it's in favor of making something in bleach seem better than it is.

Except if you were applying the same standards for them, you're using for Luffy, their numbers would be a lot higher than that and you fucking know it.

It's funny because yeah, Luffy has less losses than Naruto and Ichigo but he also gets embarrassed the LEAST in his losses.
Luffy only really got stomped hard like 3-4 times in the whole series:
Crocodile the first 2 times
Aokiji and Akainu
And then Kaidou
And because of how Oda writes, Luffy usually comes out of those looking far, far better by comparison.

Meanwhile, Kubo basically embarrasses Ichigo at times with how badly he gets demolished at times.
Aizen(Though that happened to everyone), Grimmjow(who he NEVER gives such an embarrassment back), Askin(It may make sense but come on) and Yhwach was just him being done seriously dirty.
It's why I hope the Anime dials that shit back with the final Arc because the dude shouldn't be getting embarrassed like that.

Though he's still ultimately not rendered a joke like Naruto is in Boruto...

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Who can Kill Salem from RWBY? (starring FATE Servants)

Immortal Slaying Scythe, Harpe. It is described as a monster-killing holy sword with a special shape similar to a scythe, having the cutting edge on the inside of the blade, though it isn't actually an outstanding sword by itself. Its true strength is its trait of Refraction of Longevity, which...

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Immortal Slaying Scythe, Harpe. It is described as a monster-killing holy sword with a special shape similar to a scythe, having the cutting edge on the inside of the blade, though it isn't actually an outstanding sword by itself. Its true strength is its trait of Refraction of Longevity, which is a divine ability that nullifies the "undying attribute" of immortals and inflicts wounds that cannot be restored by any methods other than healing in accordance to the natural laws. It is one of the five Noble Phantasms given to Perseus, the greatest amount of legendary artifacts given to a single person in Greek history, for his quest to slay Medusa.

What about this makes you think harpe wouldn‘t absolutely destroy Salem? The guy who discussed her left quiet a bit out… and ok you could say „yeah but her power comes from the brothers“, let’s be honest if mash a demiservant can block Tiamats Nega-Genisis than Harpe can absolutely kill Salem.

And if you say „but Tiamat was totally weakened“, Orion even if he is a grandservant still soloed Artemis. And I know what you say „but that was a specific power interaction“, I say so what? That’s what this whole thing is about let’s be true with ourselves when in fate sth says I can do that thing to that thing power levels stop to matter. So yeah I say little Medusa can totally kill Salem.

The sheer fact that this had to be said is fucking sad as hell and indicative of SB users wanking the shit out of RWBY despite none of the headcanon they are using is actually canon. The entire thing of Salem's Curse is not like Ozpin's Reincarnations whenever he dies, she literally regenerates her body because as the Brother God says "She will not know Death" meaning she's just undying.

For all of people's downplaying and ignoring the main part of Harpe, Gorgon HERSELF was Undying, that's why the Egyptian Pantheon even gave Perseus Harpe in Nasuverse canon, nothing else would kill her and Tiamat-Gorgon carried that same trait which means the same shit we've ALWAYS known about Divine Constructs or other Holy Weapons(Which aren't DC but damn close):

Divine Constructs are literally imbued with the power of the Gods or an equivalent(For Rhongomyniad and Excalibur) and Harpe is no different as it was also imbued for that purpose.
Salem would fucking die to it as how the Curse works has no failsafes, hell, it's one of the easiest curses to ever break, it probably would break from a simple nudge especially if the Pool of Destruction can alter her DNA, organs and make her into a Grimm composite otherwise.

 

[Mr.OMG]

@Mr.OMG Do you have the quote of Coronzon inducing madness on those that look at her (supposedly at a planetary scale) or the Abyss/Da'at/Ungrund containing all the negative emotion that the human race will ever experience?


Or at least the link to your SB respect thread.

You mean the evil influence of the Tree of Evil. Then it would be somewhere in the 19-22 NT

To aru majutsu no index Feats

Anyway, I decided to reread ToAru since I had pretty much forgotten everything that went on there, especially OT, if that's the case, why don't I do a feats thread at the same time.

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[Paxton]

You mean the evil influence of the Tree of Evil. Then it would be somewhere in the 19-22 NT

To aru majutsu no index Feats

Anyway, I decided to reread ToAru since I had pretty much forgotten everything that went on there, especially OT, if that's the case, why don't I do a feats thread at the same time.

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I was referring to a claim that someone made stating "Looking at Coronzon drives people insane (much like Qliphah), and Accelerator crossed the Abyss which is connected to every negative emotion of every human since the beginning of time".

Unless that IS what they were referring to, but I can't really find any quote regarding what they said.