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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

end result of blanket statement scaling

a statement that can be backed up as existing beyond spacetime now counts as Low 1A on their standard

That's just not a sustainable way to do this hobby, it's not just too much power creep it's the fact that you're now opening the floodgates to all kinds of other open ended statements that by necessity have to be considered for this standard to be fair
 
end result of blanket statement scaling

a statement that can be backed up as existing beyond spacetime now counts as Low 1A on their standard

That's just not a sustainable way to do this hobby, it's not just too much power creep it's the fact that you're now opening the floodgates to all kinds of other open ended statements that by necessity have to be considered for this standard to be fair
Someone claimed they are omnipotent?
Guess we gotta mark that down as a feat cause they said it
:heston
 
Someone claimed they are omnipotent?
Guess we gotta mark that down as a feat cause they said it
:heston
You joke but this is unironically what their Tier 0 now basically boils down to

It's not that simple, they debated it for a long time and it got fairly complicated, but the end result was more or less a much more sophisticated version of 2009 era battleboard omnipotence arguments. Not a fan of that
 
You joke but this is unironically what their Tier 0 now basically boils down to

It's not that simple, they debated it for a long time and it got fairly complicated, but the end result was more or less a much more sophisticated version of 2009 era battleboard omnipotence arguments. Not a fan of that
just throw the whole site in the trash at this rate
 
You joke but this is unironically what their Tier 0 now basically boils down to

It's not that simple, they debated it for a long time and it got fairly complicated, but the end result was more or less a much more sophisticated version of 2009 era battleboard omnipotence arguments. Not a fan of that

It kinda is that simple since they put [ ] from Nasuverse and it doesn't fucking do anything :skully

"It could do anything but won't because things are already how it wants them"

Literally designed by the writer to never do anything ever :catskully
 
just throw the whole site in the trash at this rate
The thing I find really interesting about VSB is the guy spearheading most of their revisions is actually a really smart kid, eg this thread which initially sounds stupid off the title

But then reading some of his examples he's already well aware of many of the issues a holistic tiering system runs into
eg
All quantitative differences are also continuous with each other, meaning you can add up a lot of small things to get a big thing. Put together a lot of 3 m³ cubes and you'll eventually cover a volume of 10 km³. Put together an aleph-2 amount of universes, and you'll have a High 1-B+ collection, even if the individual universes making up that collection are Low 2-C or somesuch. Same applies to higher-dimensional things; even if a physical square isn't a bunch of line segments "glued" together, it still has 1-dimensional sub-regions, and mathematically it is still a line segment multiplied by itself (Which is an uncountably infinite add-up).

(This is one of the things I brought up in my tier thread as well as something we would need to account for trying to weigh one series against the other, and it's a way to account for series with different cosmologies)

It's just kinda funny to me that for all their issues VSB is at least aware of some of these and actively trying to workshop fixes.
 
Too late. VBW and it’s imitators have permeated this entire hobby.

VBW could literally die right now and change nothing
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The thing I find really interesting about VSB is the guy spearheading most of their revisions is actually a really smart kid, eg this thread which initially sounds stupid off the title

But then reading some of his examples he's already well aware of many of the issues a holistic tiering system runs into
eg


(This is one of the things I brought up in my tier thread as well as something we would need to account for trying to weigh one series against the other, and it's a way to account for series with different cosmologies)

It's just kinda funny to me that for all their issues VSB is at least aware of some of these and actively trying to workshop fixes.
imma be real with you chief, this shit reads like hot ass, I understand what hes getting at but actually trying to use this in vs debates is just going to turn people off the hobby hardcore
 
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imma be real with you chief, this shit reads like hot ass, I understand what hes getting at but actually trying to use this in vs debates is just going to turn people off the hobby hardcore
I mean thats why nobody likes using multiversal characters, but this shit is unfortunately necessary if you’re gonna compare one to another at all
 
Kratos, Im a massive fan of all god of war games and getting anything close to universal requires very, very selective reading of the material. Specifically Im pretty sure most of it comes down to an explanation in god of war 1 where kronos/another titan got punched and created the stars in the sky and kratos getting scaled to that.
That's Ascension, actually. And its from a Goddess that was never a Primordial deity in the myths no matter who you read, who for some reason was made it for the GOW-verse, that represents the oceans/seas(which should be taken up by Oceanus and Pontus/Thalassa respectively) punching Ouranos, Kronos's father in the face.
 
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