pein's almost sole contribution was doing nothing then voting ekko. if they were scummates i dont see that as something he'd bother to do.
which arguments? my argument with fang was less than a page and hardly prolonged. i didnt say my argument with him would help me get a better read on him, i said my argument with him would make him more readable. he does better in interactions. i actually said the opposite about it helping me read him as it tends to, or has recently at least, caused me to be prone to error in how i read people(flower in 2 games, ekko/tpein in melkor's game off the top of my head).
also who are your town reads?