One Piece Tier/Feat/Canon/Toei Discussion thread: Toon Level feats only please.

[El Hermano]

You can't calc it because Sanji's no where in those panels.

All we know, the laser was fired. The robot was about to be hit. Sanji was no hwere in sight. Next thing you know, the laser hits, the Sanji reappears with the robot without a scrath.

So Sanji had to move at an unknown place grab the robot, and move to the other side of the building, faster than the light chould hit the spot. :lmao

Can't we just assume a lowball of him being right out of frame?

 

[GoldenHeart]

He was simply giving an example of a similar method of transfering information. Hence, he said "It's like..." rather than outright state Kuma delivers these signals via radio waves.

But that's what i'm saying
He's grabbing signals/waves and sending them somewhere else, and Vega compares this to how radio waves work

Obviously it's not literally manipulating radio waves because Kuma's not an antenna, but he's still saying it works like radio waves, so there's not much difference, hence the statement of his paws being LS now making sense.

 

[El Hermano]

But that's what i'm saying
He's grabbing nervous signals/waves and sending them somewhere else, and Vega compares this to how radio waves work

Obviously it's not literally manipulating radio waves because Kuma's not an antenna, but he's still saying it works like radio waves, so there's not much difference, hence the statement of his paws being LS now making sense.

Yeah, but that was just an example given by VP because both methods transfer information in a wireless manner, doesn't mean Kuma's ability is as fast even if he at one point claimed to repel air at the speed of light years ago, something that iirc he's done only that one time so far. VP doesn't even fully understand how Kuma's ability works.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

yeah i dont see anything there saying kuma’s power is an actual radio wave, it all seems to just be an example

 

[Syla]

Can't we just assume a lowball of him being right out of frame?

Even if there is no way to calc it, low end would still be FTL

 

[GoldenHeart]

Yeah, but that was just an example given by VP because both methods transfer information in a wireless manner, doesn't mean Kuma's ability is as fast

It woulnd't in isolation yes, but Kuma's previous statement + his feats in Sabaody further supports it being that fast

Also the "information" in question are literally nervous signals, hence the comparison.

VP doesn't even fully understand how Kuma's ability works.

Eeeeh idk about that

Can't we just assume a lowball of him being right out of frame?

Was about to say this, even with a lowball like this it would probably still come out FTL

 

[El Hermano]

It woulnd't in isolation yes, but Kuma's previous statement + his feats in Sabaody further supports it being that fast

Also the "information" in question are literally nervous signals, hence the comparison.

Nervous signals are much slower than light. What did he do in Sabaody to support it? He was super fast, but nothing that would give us a reason to scale him to the speed of light. His statement of repelling air is irrelevant.

Those are two different scenarios with a different context. You could try and argue his statement back then was true, but VP's example does nothing to actually support it. It was simply an example for a wireless method for information delivery. That's it. The context of which it was said in is pretty clear.

Eeeeh idk about that

The VP who made that statement was still in the process of researching Kuma. That being said, it's irrelevant.

Was about to say this, even with a lowball like this it would probably still come out FTL

Amen. If there's an option to go for the lowest of balls then why not? Beats outright ignoring it.

 

[B Rabbit]

Yeah it's obviously low FTL. Sanji had to run there, grab, than move after the laser was already shot. So at the bare minimun 3 actions while the laser was going at him.

Sanji's feats for speed are just insane.

 

[GoldenHeart]

What did he do in Sabaody to support it? He was super fast, but nothing that would give us a reason to scale him to the speed of light. Those are two different scenarios with a different context. You could try and argue his statement back then was true, but VP's example does nothing to actually support it. It was simply an example for a wireless method for information delivery

Didn't he intercept Kizaru and Rayleigh at one point?

Eeeh idk about that. "This works like how radios work, just not in that specific way"

Nervous signals are much slower than light.

I was under the impression those were no different from radio signals

 

[ChaosTheory123]

Didn't he intercept Kizaru and Rayleigh at one point? I was under the impression those were no different from radio signals

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Nope, I used nerve impulses to get a speed for Goki fight Yusuke’s Reigan for a reference. Textbook I found have most comfortably subsonic.

 

[B Rabbit]

Kizaru and Rayleigh were fighting at one point, and Kuma teleported next to them, but he didn't like blitz them or anything.

 

[GoldenHeart]

That's still pretty impressive tbh, reminds me of that scene of Robin TPing between Luffy and Jinbe.

Btw switching the conversation, what do we scale the mid tiers and low tiers to? My memory on the earlier Pre-TS arcs is fuzzy

 

[Syla]

That's still pretty impressive tbh, reminds me of that scene of Robin TPing between Luffy and Jinbe.

Btw switching the conversation, what do we scale the mid tiers and low tiers to? My memory on the earlier Pre-TS arcs is fuzzy

East Blue is around small town level, then Alabasta/skypiea is like city level and it stays like that until thriller bark, if we use gecko moria's high end it's island level.

 

[Syla]

@GoldenHeart Since you haven't been here in a while, you can go look at all of em in this thread.

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[ChaosTheory123]

@GoldenHeart Since you haven't been here in a while, you can go look at all of em in this thread.

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[Great Potato]

Sanji is unironically the fastest person in the HST.

It should be a big arc for speed feats that's for sure, Yellow Monkey is off shore and I don't imagine he'd take kindly to being booted off his throne. Going to be one hell of a title defense for Sanji if they cross paths.

 

[El Hermano]

Didn't he intercept Kizaru and Rayleigh at one point?

Yeah but nothing to nothing to indicate LS.

Eeeh idk about that. "This works like how radios work, just not in that specific way"

Again, he just used radio waves as an example. Doesn't mean they're the same.

I was under the impression those were no different from radio signals

Far slower. Nerve impulses are electrochemical, radio waves are electromagnetic.

 

[GoldenHeart]

East Blue is around small town level, then Alabasta/skypiea is like city level and it stays like that until thriller bark, if we use gecko moria's high end it's island level.

I see

What else was being discussed for their stats, beyond the raigou thing?

 

[Syla]

I see

What else was being discussed for their stats, beyond the raigou thing?

There's an ongoing discussion about how the VA continental feat gets distributed within high tiers. Mainly because of how much of a drastic difference from City level mid tiers jumps to continental high tiers.

If there is a way to get the raigou feat for mid tiers at somewhat a decent level, say for example they get high island level or something that pill will be easier to swallow I guess?

 

[El Hermano]

@ChaosTheory123 would it be valid to use the distance between Edison and the edge of the frame to determine Sanji's position for a calculation?