Game Ranked The Traitors Mafia

[Natalija]

there is no cult tonight, i have received and refused the wolves invitation

yes, i was invited. i could not tell u what the wolves motive behind this target choice was. maybe they really thought id accept? additionally, might possibly be a plot to have the wolves and me distance for cred, aka they could be players that if me or them flip wolf the rest r cleared

Pein said even a failed conversion would be in the writeup, why you lying?

 

[Emil]

No one died? That's brilliant

Why did nobody die

happened because i refused the invitation. if anyone else want to counter claim this they r welcomed to. make our lynch today easier.

nat n goth please read end of day 1 and start of day 2 and focus on poyser's interactions with the other players

poyser heavily sused me and nat for our usage
poyser sused richard for his play
poyser manipulated psychic and tweet in thread
poyser questioned goth's thoughts in thread

only players who are not touched in any incriminating capacity by poyser are hime and fang

 

[Emil]

Pein said even a failed conversion would be in the writeup, why you lying?

then he will add it soon @T-Pein™

 

[T-Pein™]

then he will add it soon @T-Pein™

No.
I do not add it.

 

[Emil]

@Natalija @Goth Boy read my post start of day pls

wud be appreciated if u read end of day 1 and start of day 2

 

[Natalija]

poyser heavily sused me and nat for our usage

Poyser crowned you as a townie.

 

[Emil]

No.
I do not add it.

ok lol

well nat is ingenuine asfk anyway so expected for her to say w.e

 

[Emil]

Poyser crowned you as a townie.

not after i claimed,

check our interactions from here - https://onelastforum.com/threads/the-traitors-mafia.3593/post-220380

 

[hime]

please sincerely read this all. you guys are all town - @Shepard @Ultra @Natalija @Psychic @Richard Mille @Hans Tweetenberg @Goth Boy

continued reading day 1 and day 2 over the night and have some notes. see quotes for below in spoilers for the references.

> first - tweet is never aligned with hime, so our world view should NEVER have them both as scum. i have found interactions to support this. i also found more interactions to support tweet never being aligned with poyser mostly stemming from poyser manipulating tweet in thread. QED: tweet is town.

> second - found interactions showing goth and poyser are unlikely to be aligned, its subtle but its unnecessary shade poyser throws at goth. this is more clearing than poyser's interaction with hime/aurelian. QED: goth is town

> third - i do still believe psychic is town. i have found posts of poyser manipulating her in the thread. i firmly still believe this is a misdirection and i'll die on this hill. also found an interaction before i started defending psychic that shows interest in reading her slot, as opposed to a scum (poyser) approaching her. QED: psychic is town.

> fourth - the chance of hime to be aligned with poyser is actually higher than aurelian and poyser. found interactions (and lackoff) to support this. aurelian is still be scum though as poyser did not attempt to manipulate him at all as opposed to tweet/psychic/goth. aurelian and hime were in synch yesterday to lynch Psychic in a double mislynch wagons (lethal and psychic). when psychic flips town, they would lynch lethal after. QED: hime and aurelian are wolves


conclusion - hime and aurelian are the original wolves here. what i read from aurelian end of day 1 has me thinking he is a misdirection as well, though not as confident on it as i am on psychic/tweet/goth being town due to lack of manipulation by poyser on aurelian.

i also found interactions of poyser and lethal as i continue reading that hints at them not being aligned but its too late for those. apologies @Magic . gna admit i had bias towards how ingenuine he was approaching me and it clouded my judgment on reading him, but i think my solve is right this time.

Spoiler: first - hime and tweet NEVER scum aligned. hime much closer associated with poyser than tweet

> hime gave a random read list that tweet called as came out of the blue



> tweet is questioning the easy town read on hime that came from poyser and sheph



> tweet happy to default to hime here

conclusion - i think from this tweet/hime cannot be a team and im happy to have tweet as locked town from an interaction with poyser i'll show in another spoiler

Spoiler: first part 2 - poyser is very manipulative towards tweet as opposed to hime. tweet is town, hime scum

conclusion - this is mostly self explanatory. tweet is asking who shud he vote and poyser is manipulating him into it. confident to say they r mostly not aligned off this. tweet goes to town reads while hime scum read

Spoiler: second - goth and poyser are not aligned from start of day 2 interaction. goth is town

conclusion - although on a surface level this went nowhere, i am going to once again restate that this is already more than any pressure or sus poyser applied to aurelian and hime the entire game

Spoiler: third - psychic and poyser not scum aligned. psychic is town

psychic ask these questions which both me and poyser reply to


poyser's reply was manipulative. he just told her who to shield and lynch but not really answer her question


my reply to psychic answered her question and asked her a question - this also tells you me and psychic r not both scum


psychic quoted my reply and agreed with me

conclusion - while this is fakeable, remember day 1 mafia could not talk together. this may be a signal poyser used to tell psychic who to vote and it clearly tells me he is not interested in reading her as opposed to my reply. what this shows is poyser is scummy and me/psychic are not in a scum team together. poyser being manipulative towards psychic tells me they r more likely than not not in the same team.

Spoiler: fourth - aurelian and poyser are more scum aligned than poyser and tweet/goth/psychic due to the complete lack of manipulation from poyser on aurelian

> in the middle of the interaction between tweet and poyser, aurelian actually interjects and gives poyser a different view on his read. as in, it seems like fang reads raem scum for different reasons than poyser and sees the need to interject this interaction and point it out. i think there is some merit to this saying they arent teammates, tho i suppose not much more came out of it as it went nowhere.



> another interaction between the 2. this one doesnt help fang's case much as it also goes no where and poyser doesnt reply to it. if anything maybe its fang signaling his vote on poyser?

conclusion - i cant really firly say that aurelian and poyser are not aligned, but i think there is small merit to it. out of the other interactions this has high distancing potential tho as poyser has not tried to manipulate aurelian as opposed to manipulating psychic/tweet

Spoiler: third part 2 - poyser and hime have almost no direct or incriminating interactions whatsover outside of this "like" and gif by poyser in EoD

poyser actually thumbs up reaction this post by hime during her interaction with tweet. this was hime's reply to tweet. thats about the closest interaction i can find in EoD between hime and poyser. nothing else came from either poyser nor hime.



what even is this interaction? this has 0 purpose or progress towards game solving

conclusion - hime and poyser are aligned not by bussing or heavy distancing, but by simply complete lack of manipulation from poyser towards hime. these interactions r just bland in both directions.

go away, u have tunneled me ALL game and when one piece of ur argument that im not scum doesnt work, u try and make up a new argument for it

 

[Natalija]

No.
I do not add it.

You do it if recruitment happens, what happens it if fails?

 

[Emil]

check from here actually, thats when i reveal the name @Natalija

Game - Ranked - The Traitors Mafia

Nobody convinced me and I didn't like the options people were giving me so why would I do anything else than do my own shit instead What about Nat?

onelastforum.com

 

[Emil]

go away, u have tunneled me ALL game and when one piece of ur argument that im not scum doesnt work, u try and make up a new argument for it

whats your PoE rn and why did u try to recruit me?

the arguments against you being scum is much much more than you being town.

dont really care to convince you about it. all other players need is to read EoD 1 and day 2

 

[Emil]

You do it if recruitment happens, what happens it if fails?

tpein wouldnt say. i assumed they will kill me instead, or they get a doublekill next night, or a guranteed recruit next time

 

[Natalija]

not after i claimed,

check our interactions from here - https://onelastforum.com/threads/the-traitors-mafia.3593/post-220380

I was there, he took it back afterwards and said you were town anyway.

go away, u have tunneled me ALL game and when one piece of ur argument that im not scum doesnt work, u try and make up a new argument for it

I mean he's obviously trying to play us, we should lynch him today please

 

[Emil]

i also have something else to share, but first

@hime @Aurelian what did u guys do last night?

 

[Emil]

I was there, he took it back afterwards and said you were town anyway.


I mean he's obviously trying to play us, we should lynch him today please

read the interaction please. he called us scum for the usage

read my replies to him and hime

id strongly recommend reading from EoD 1 to start of day 2

im not playing anyone. u r mostly being illogical and insincere, maybe paranoid even

 

[Emil]

Why did nobody die

goth what do u think of my post start of day?

 

[hime]

whats your PoE rn and why did u try to recruit me?

the arguments against you being scum is much much more than you being town.

dont really care to convince you about it. all other players need is to read EoD 1 and day 2

i have no interest replying to u anymore

i gave u the benefit of doubt and tried changing my perspective and finding motives and reasons y u could be town
i cooperated and did the reread and gave my reads there
i claimed as well when YOU asked

u r never going to change ur read on me and try and find every possible thing that fits ur theory of me being scum
u did the exact same thing with lethal

u told me to go read with an open mind and i did exactly that yet u r unable to do the same

 

[Natalija]

i have no interest replying to u anymore

i gave u the benefit of doubt and tried changing my perspective and finding motives and reasons y u could be town
i cooperated and did the reread and gave my reads there
i claimed as well when YOU asked

u r never going to change ur read on me and try and find every possible thing that fits ur theory of me being scum
u did the exact same thing with lethal

u told me to go read with an open mind and i did exactly that yet u r unable to do the same

He's planting the next mislynch

 

[Ultra]

there is no cult tonight, i have received and refused the wolves invitation

yes, i was invited. i could not tell u what the wolves motive behind this target choice was. maybe they really thought id accept? additionally, might possibly be a plot to have the wolves and me distance for cred, aka they could be players that if me or them flip wolf the rest r cleared

Just to be clear - you had a say in this process? As in you knew the action was happening and was able to respond?

Gonna get to your ISO in a bit, but this takes priority, because this was not an assumption I had