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Type-Rey

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Nobody's reading this much shit mate

Reality Marbles themselves are also Textures
Just skimming through ... this ain't true.

Like, at most you might be able to argue that in an OBD outside of verse scenario, their different mechanics work in such a way that at the end of the day , they would reach a similar result , but in verse... they're fundamentally different .

Like, just think in terms of a video game .
The Texture is the main rendered you see there and a RM is basically a tool that you'd use to hack it .
Never mind other shit.

I'll link this for a more plastic explanation of the mechanics involved behind MPs and RMs.

① First, let’s clear up the meaning of “marble.” It can mean “marble” as in “a marble floor” or “a marble pillar.” It can also mean “marble” as in a small glass ball. Let’s leave it at this for now.② Next, let’s clear up the meaning of “clustering illusion.” When you search for this term along with the word “probability” you can find an example about a jar which is filled with marbles of two colors, white and black. After you fill the jar and mix up the marbles inside, instead of the marbles appearing like a chess board, with the colors equally and evenly mixed together in a checker pattern, you will notice clumps of white marbles and clumps of black marbles here and there in the jar. These clumps, which seem non-random, despite actually being randomly distributed, are the clustering illusion.
③ From the above explanation you can see that the term marble comes from marble in the glass ball sense, not the marble floor sense of the word.
④ Even in a situation where you have half black marbles and half white ones and you mix them up, “logically” you assume that the white and black should be evenly mixed since there are equal amounts, but when you check the result you don’t see an even mix, you see clumps and groups in the pattern. This is precisely where clustering illusion comes in, and the result of a series of random coincidences may seem as though it was purposefully realized by someone, despite it actually being a natural phenomenon1. So when probability itself is being interfered with, one might understand that materializing Brunstud Castle might not be so implausible (through a perfect series of “natural” and “random” coincidences brought about by the reality marble or marble phantasm).
Accordingly, when the world is connected with a marble phantasm or reality marble, probability is interfered with, and a series of phenomena, which could only ever be considered to be random coincidences, is deliberately generated.


As for the concept behind it :
 
Alright, gonna add in something from the 3rd series of Case Files:

Philosophy Foundation

TL;DR Asian Mages are fucking insane, literally adding themselves like an MC to the Planet to basically create an Artificial Root to basically not the same effect but something real close. Apparently, the Xian are the ones who built it's Foundations. Japan basically got some of the hand-me-downs from Philosophy Magecraft(primarily sharing it's Gods) which is why it's still closer to the Age of the Gods than even Britain(The MA set up shop in London as they went with it being the Planet's Navel).
So yeah, this explains alot of shit but it also throws you for a fucking loop for real.
 
....Time for Napoleon Bonaparte?
BECAUSE HE IS HERE!:





Video Format Here.
Napoleon practically explains that his Spirit Origin and Noble Phantasm are practically afterthoughts and making a note in history is harder than he believed it would be here.

Napoleon states he never had a Cannon like he does in life(no shit) but his exaggerated qualities are ultimately not that uncommon in Modern Day Heroic Spirits here and here with Babbage used as an example among others.

And again here, Ritsuka brings up that Innocent Monsters can primarily affect them too and Napoleon brings up the example he's much taller on top of that.

Here and here, Napoleon all but states he is more of the will of the people than the actual known Napoleon(the profile states this too but just to put it out there)

Imperial Privilege B
As the first French emperor, he possesses the Imperial Privilege skill, but...
(In "FateGO", it isn't used in general.)

Well... that's a fucking lie(unless they mean in battle and not instory...)
Here, Napoleon literally uses Imperial Privilege(and states it by name) to establish a telepathic communication with Ophelia as he's dying

The Light of Possibility B

Here, it's heavily implied that Napoleon is using The Light of Possibilities as a boost which is why Mash is able to keep up with First Ascension Sigurd-Surtr(You can say it's potentially Charisma or Fire Support but technically, it feels that TLoP is boosting those beyond the pale anyway).

Here, it's also heavily implied that it's what allows Napoleon to keep doing his large scale attacks against the Envoys without losing any Mana alongside Mash.

Here(Video Format) Napoleon, under the effects of Scathath Skadi's Primordial Rune, is still able to move and fire his Cannon implied by this.

Again(Seriously, it's always heavily implied and never stated) here and here, it's all but implied it's due to this that Ophelia is able to break the hold against Surtr's curse.

Noble Phantasm

Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile: The Iridescent Bow Sonorously Announcing the Triumphant Return
Rank: A
Classification: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm
Range: 1~99
Maximum number of targets: 100


Here(Video Format) Napoleon overclocks his Noble Phantasm and puts his Spirit Core into it to the point he ultimately dies from it to damage Surtr.



Here the sheer blow from it is enough to "block" Surtr's Loptr Laegjrn(I'm pretty sure this is more by weakening him enough that he has to ultimately stop using it)

Here, Ophelia notes once Surtr finishes forming his head, he'll start moving again all but stating Napoleon blew it off entirely with his last resort.

Here, he ultimately does enough damage to the point that next to him using Loptr Laegjrn, Surtr literally has to heal for awhile giving everyone enough time to mount a counter offensive

And here, Brynhildr states that they are benefiting from Napoleon's "Rainbow"(You can say it's the NP or TLoP that was enveloping the NP either way)

Strength, Speed and Durability?

Here(Video Format)Napoleon has a chief resistance to Illusion Based Magecraft due to his Class... though a fraction of the Primordial Rune's power(i.e. Basically something from the Planet itself) is able to effortlessly bypass it

Here and here, Napoleon fires a powerful shot of light(unknown if this is his True Name Release but it is implied earlier by Greta that Napoleon DID fire it before) into the group of Envoys and takes out a good number of them with ease.

Here, Napoleon mentions he has fought and defeated Giants before(Though if he met a Muspel Giant before is up in the air)

Here, Napoleon states moving at 200 klicks(Kilometers) per Hour is nothing for a Heroic Spirit though he does mention he can't keep it up all the time due to the obstacles in the way(And no, this isn't a maximum or anything stupid, I have seen people use this in the worst way possible like they do with Lobo's speed... you know who you guys are)

Here, Napoleon undergoes the 2nd Ascension state once he forms a contract with Ritsuka.

Here, Napoleon(in his 2nd Ascension state) takes out 3 Muspel Giants with a shot each, the third one uses his dead brethren as a defense but Napoleon later on blows him away and then fires 3 extra shots at the Emptiness Tree Seed to blow him into the castle.

Here(Video Format), Napoleon not only can tell that the Fire around the Ice Palace is based on Magecrat but also see the fact it wasn't created at the point of the Age of the Gods but only recently and is only an imitation.
 
(http://imgur.com/a/HlwG6Id)
And holy shit at how the Manga shows off how a weakened Vasavi Shakti murked the fuck out of Cu Alter.
Yes, the game does ultimately have Cu Alter retreat from it regardless due to it's damage but the Manga seriously shows how bad the damage truly was and why he had to retreat.
It also ultimately shows how even a weakened to hell VS would absolutely murder most Servants even then.
 

CrossTheHorizon

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I....don't think its weakened. Its whole thing is that it's an all or nothing Hail Mary assault, so it's not like getting gutted would actually do anything to depower it. Especially when Karna has shown he can get gutted and completely ignore it in Apocrypha.

That doesn't make it any less impressive considering its fucking Cuzilla on Grail juice and he clearly can't regenerate, though.
 

True, Karna has been capable of sheer bullshit before and since on pure willpower(Mahapralya anyone?), I guess I just stuck on that too much.
 

CrossTheHorizon

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True, Karna has been capable of sheer bullshit before and since on pure willpower(Mahapralya anyone?), I guess I just stuck on that too much.

Karna and Herc keep getting scenes where it's like "okay you are definitely absolutely dead now it is physically and magically impossible for you to survive" and they go "eh, not feeling it" and keep going anyway
 
Karna and Herc keep getting scenes where it's like "okay you are definitely absolutely dead now it is physically and magically impossible for you to survive" and they go "eh, not feeling it" and keep going anyway

You forgot Achilles? "I literally just lost my heart back there but I keep on swinging anyway, fuck this army" and it took Lostbelt Chiron going all in just to get his body to finally accept he's dead?
 

CrossTheHorizon

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You forgot Achilles? "I literally just lost my heart back there but I keep on swinging anyway, fuck this army" and it took Lostbelt Chiron going all in just to get his body to finally accept he's dead?

I did forget Achilles, actually

He's only done it once, maybe next time he'll get to deflect an Anti-World NP with his shield. I want to see that thing get proper use
 

Qinglong

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Karna wasn't running on full, it wouldn't be on par with grail hooked VS

and uhh where are you getting "Hail Mary type move" from to say it wasn't' weakened? It breaks his armor, it doesn't destroy his spirit core. He disappears immediately after launching the VS in game, which doesn't happen when he's healthy.


Karna doesn't completely ignore getting gutted either, he just powers through it despite the pain.
 
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Type-Rey

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Karna comments in the game that the VS "didn't reach him" , whether that means that it was depowered and that allowed Cu to escape or it literally meant that the blast didn't completely reach Cu, and he only took a part of the blast leads to the same result really. Cu didn't eat the full powered thing.
 

Actually his Spirit Core was gone when Cu Alter hit him with Gae Bolg.
So yeah, I'm not saying it was at full power but it definitely was weakened which is what I should have went with as my point to Cross.
 

Qinglong

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Yeah I meant VS on its own doesn't destroy his core or anything, so normally after using VS he'd be "fine" to keep fighting on

and what Rey said, in game he somehow avoided taking the full brunt of the attack
 
Alright we are finally at the endgame here of Lostbelt 2 Archives and luckily, it's a short one

Ophelia Phamrsolone


Height: 166cm
Weight: 48kg
Born in: Germany
Talents: Spiritual Evocation, Summoning, Mystic Eye of Delay, baking.
Likes: Käsetorte, Lindt chocolate, Kirschtaria.
Dislikes: Sundays.



Alright ultimately, there's nothing truly MAJOR about Ophelia here to be on this list... past the main reason she would ever be here(aka, the main reason why Kadoc will NOT be here as he really does anything majorly significant that would require it as he's otherwise just a low tier Mage)


Here, Ophelia is able to figure out(though sadly cannot fight against it) that Surtr has cursed her soul and is melding it with his.

Here, She's capable of using a floating spell for awhile before it fails.


Here, Ophelia has Sigurd-Surtr under forced Limiters to lower his power levels to most likely restrain Surtr(Which are unleashed through Forced Spirit Ascension).


And now pretty much the reason why she has a profile in the first place:



*Looks around* Alright, it'll be a placeholder as I was very absent-minded about it and I really don't like going back to My Room and watching scenes all over again. I'll go get without the Text later.

As far as I got, Her Mystic Eye: Prolongation(She states it's one of Prolongation but otherwise, it's not stated similarly to MEoDP or Cybele).
Mystic Eye: Jewel

Use from the 2nd Sigurd fight(Video Here)

Here, Upon completing her spell, Mash's Ortinax Armor immediately loses it's output even when it's in Auto-Maintenance Mode.

Here, Ophelia explains in a half-assed measure how her Mystic Eye works(if she doesn't want something to "shine", it will never shine in front of her again) and Mash here believes that it manipulates time at first.

Use from the 3rd Sigurd fight(Video Here)

Here, she aims and ultimately stops Brynhildr's Odinseal Prototype from working but she still suffers from the adverse effects of the Odinseal Prototype.

Here, Brynhildr ultimately overcomes Ophelia's Mystic Eye.

Here, After Ophelia fails to utilize her Mystic Eye against Brynhildr, she explicitly states that Ophelia's Mystic Eye actually determines possibilities and shuts that possibility away, not rewind time.

Here, Brynhildr states that she ultimately narrowed the possibilities for Ophelia's Mystic Eye to take effect(i.e. literally narrowing it to just the one possibility), rendering it useless and Ophelia literally freaks out stating that Brynhildr literally held her mind in place and how it's practically impossible and Sigurd-Surtr even states it's impossible for most beings and even Demi-Gods can't do what Brynhildr has done easily(And to be fair, it is basically Discount Kojirou-Musashi Tier bullshit to ultimately pin a Possibility in place and allow it to occur while allowing the effects to still transpire. It's basically near King Crimson Tier bullshit with the only weakness is basically forcing her in a situation where only one possibility can ever happen... like her death)

Here, Ophelia truly explains what her Mystic Eye actually does. She only temporarily pins a possibility in place and only allows that to pass, it's true purpose is seeing the myriad of possibilities in a form similar to Precognition.

Here, there are limits to Ophelia's Mystic Eye and guaranteed events also mean no matter what she looks at, she cannot use her Mystic Eye to stop it.

Here, Ophelia is able to see Wodime's conversation with the Foreign God in almost it's entirety despite the nature of what's happening.

Here, her Mystic Eye ultimately sees the Scandanivan Lostbelt and Surtr despite still being in her coffin.

Here, it's confirmed that Surtr's Soul was ultimately linked to Ophelia's Mystic Eye by merely seeing him back then and this is what allowed him to bodyjack Sigurd when she summoned him.

And of course, here Ophelia ultimately destroys her Mystic Eye to destabilize Surtr's Soul despite the sheer damage it would do to her at best and at worst(Though it matters little since the Sirius Light ultimately kills her using it to boost Sigurd to kill Surtr)

Alright, done with the Crypter of LB2, and after this, we will hit the nature of the World itself and I'm out
Oh yeah, don't expect me to do Kadoc for real... seriously.
 
Alright, I was plan on doing this yesterday but to get it over with and to fast track to adding in the Lostbelt 3 Archives(as I'm still in a ridiculous rush to finish this, 3 and start 4 before LB5.2 happens in March...)

The Life, World and Culture of the Scandinavian Lostbelt:

(Yes, I'll try and add more of these types of maps later, give me time...)

The Hierarchy of the Lostbelt:

(Video Here)
Da Vinci goes over the totem pole of the Lostbelt creatures here and humanity as a whole in this lost era with Humanity at the absolute bottom and barely any other creatures even LIVING in the Lostbelt.


The Giants:
(Video of First Encounter Here)
Here, we see that they are 5 meters tall(Although considering from Golem Keter Malkuth, the 4th Anniversary PV and how Napoleon speaks of Muspels, they aren't just limited to 5 meters tall like the rest of the monsters in FGO). 5 Meters = 16 Feet
Fate/Apocrypha material - Encyclopedia: Royal Crown, the Light of Wisdom [Noble Phantasm], p.166 [T]

Here, they used to live in the Scandaniva region and potentially around Sweden, Norway and Denmark(or that would be where the Scandanivan Age of the Gods ended up becoming after it's destruction).

Here, Holmes seems especially steamed that Giants was thrown at us so soon meaning that they are thus a major threat.

Here, In the FGO 4th Anniversary PV, we do see Giants(Muspels) as tall, if not taller than Mountains though meaning.

Here(Video), Napoleon does bring up how he usually takes down Giants in the Lostbelt.

Here, Napoleon believes that Giants have an extrasensory organ that allows them to see Heat Signatures or a Sixth Sense due to the Masks they wear covering their nose and faces.

Here, Da Vinci Lily confirms that the Giants are Biological Heat Seekers and goes after anything "warm"

Here, They are also capable of infusing Mystics into whatever they touch, being able to damage the Bounded Field of the Shadow Border.

Muspels:

Here, Muspels are seen as the strongest type of Giant, as well as being seen as such a threat that even the gods keep them supervised at all times.

Here, They have enough intelligence to use their own as shields as shown in this scene.


Ice Beasts...
Here, Da Vinci notes that while they are stronger than humans, but as the Giants' pets, they have no real intelligence(obviously)

I won't include the Tree of Emptiness Seeds either since they aren't a part of the Lostbelt culture for obvious reasons.


Humans:

Basically... Da Vinci isn't wrong when the Humans in the 2nd Lostbelt is seen as the lowest in the Totem Pole...

Here, Gerda nor anyone else has ever heard of the concept of Parents or even the elderly(they are seen as a legend)

Here, If you have a child, then you can stick around until you are 25, if you don't have a child by 15, then you equally have to leave.

Here, By how Gerda ultimately states her fate in such a manner of fact tone and treating it as no problem on many occasions, it's shown they literally cannot think of any other way to live past this(When Mash defeats the Envoy and Napoleon clears out the rest, the sheer cluelessness of what to do next past wait next year proves it)

Here, Once the "Ordained Day" arrives, anyone who ultimately fits the above requirements have to leave through the Gate guarding the villages which is meant only to leave while being escorted by an Envoy.

Miscellaneous because of course...
Here, Each Village is protected by a Bounded Field centering on the large Gate.

Here, It's designed to keep the Giants, Ice Beasts and anything involving Magecraft out. Even Mash felt some pressure after stepping into the Village and believes it's connected to the Snow

Here, they do ultimately point out the "Sun"(Surtr's Prison and the connection to his true body Muspelheim) is WAY too big to be a normal Sun and would otherwise be a Red Giant

Here, Holmes states if it was true in any context, the whole area would be a scorching desert and while Mash would survive it, Ritsuka wouldn't.

I sadly can't really use anything from Sitonai because while she does have some basic feats(Like inadvertently messing up Ritsuka's body trying to establish contact too fast and why Scathath-Skadi locked her up), she really does nothing of note even compared to those in Lostbelt 1 or otherwise.

To clarify this further: It's not that Sitonai in the story or the character is helpless, she's a Dragon Slayer so by that logic, she's still a powerhouse and a High Servant so she's very powerful... the problem is that there's no real reason to list her feats because nothing she does is truly impressive for a list like this.

So that leaves one left... you guys know the one:

The beginning of Loptr Laejrn here(Video)
Here, Surtr's destination is Lake Vanern(in our equivalent area) to show Ophelia how the "richest" parts of the Lostbelt(Villages, Animals, Plant Life) will burn to ash with his Noble Phantasm.

Here(Video), Ophelia states the Sword is superheated over 4 million Celsius even before he does the TNR and compares the speed of it's descent to a shooting star.

Here(Video), Gerda confuses it for the Sun due to how bright it is(which actually makes sense for Fire that heated up).

Heracles(It's him, considering how he virtually appears everywhere Sitonai does, it's him 100%) Blocking Loptr Laegjrn here(Video)
Here, Sitonai explicitly states to take it all, including the Magical Energy to produce it(Meaning he truly did block it on his own even before he got assistance)

Here, Sitonai even states the recoil of Heracles blocking Loptr Laejrn to her is absolutely intense and she can't keep it up for long(again all but stating he was blocking it without assistance).

Here, Sitonai asks for backup from Scathath Skadi and Ortlinde and THEN they give backup(This also makes sense as they was in the Shadow Border with you meaning there was no way they could have gotten there any faster without you guys being there either).

I could bring up how different LB2's Scandaniva is from real life Scandaniva... but that's a matter of course.



Later!
 
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That's... really interesting...
 
Lostbelt 3 Archives: The Synchronized Intellect Nation SIN
And now for the next:



The Synchronized Intellect Nation: SIN

Table of Contents:

1. Qin Shi Huang(Holy Form and Backup Body)
2. Xiang Yu
3. Hinako Akuta (SPOILER)
4. Chaldean Servants
5. The Frozen Humans of QSH
6. World of Lostbelt 3

Yeah, I'm going to be avoiding the Mayall explanation until we get to the page itself, it wasn't the best addition and it's better off for another characters' feat anyway.

And unlike the past, I WILL do my best to add anything additionally I missed and yes forgive me, it's hours of details and it's seriously easy to miss something important or atleast help with details with something like this, especially with Interludes and the like.
 
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