Just found out there is a little mistake on the boldedAbout Avenger in FGO OC2
The original job of an Avenger is to remove injustices in the world. But currently the only injustice in the bleached earth is Antarctica. So the Counter Force yoinked all the Avengers that participated in OC2 and placed them there. The Avengers aren't allowed to refuse this. The contracts Ritsuka made with them are still intact they're just currently out of reach. After Ordeal call is complete they should be able to meet up with them again
To actually put in perspective, it's a mixture of both:
Basically the Counter Force IS actually removing the Avengers from Chaldea to Antartica because remember, the CF sees Ritsuka as an enemy. However, the Avengers also accepted it without a fight because while Ritsuka did basically allow them to be seen as defenders of Humanity, how they are born and built runs so counter to how Ritsuka as a person operates that it's fucking them up combined with Ritsuka being the "guilty party" means their vengeance will definitely get Ritsuka killed.
Thus Dantes and alot of Avengers just straight up decided to leave Chaldea but leave their Shadows behind until, most likely, Ritsuka reveals to the CF that CHALDEAS is the true threat to Humanity. The reason why Marie Alter, Ushi Gozen and the others didn't leave is because they chose not to leave... but they are absolutely affected by the directive with Marie Alter's profile states she could disappear at any time and Ushi-Gozen's new summoning line about her potentially vanishing at any time. So it's basically conscious decisions on both grounds, still crazy that Marie Alter is one of the few to actually remain while Taira is the one to go.
But other incarnated elementals like say Meiren are explicitly stated to have a limit:As they have ceased to be free of self-interest—such as noncorporeal elementals ought to be—they have lost sight of their role as protectors, to the point that, among them, some have even become like humans, and gained independence from the natural world.
The True Ancestors have no limits.
As a result of being provided back-up from the planet, if the need should arise, they can strengthen their abilities until that need is met (however, the amount and speed that each True Ancestor can increase it by differs per individual).
Which I guess makes sense since she is only stated to be on a category parallel to True Ancestors. Kinda like dolphins and whales.Incarnated Elemental: A
As an Elemental who shares mana with nature, she doesn't store magical energy inside her body, but rather she draws limitless energy from external sources. However, as she is bound by a humanoid form, there is a limit in how much output she can generate despite her infinite supply, and the amount of magical energy that she can make use is limited within the range of a humanoid Heroic Spirit.
I also find it interesting how TAs are stated to have no limits to their power. With the only limitation being the speed and amount they can draw. From Katatsuki Kouhon:
But other incarnated elementals like say Meiren are explicitly stated to have a limit:
Yeah. That was in reference to Arcueid playing around with Ciel and moving around in her Luminary state. However, it was also stated that up until the point where she began to move in her Luminary form she was still considered a planetary 'retribution mechanism', and only the act of turning into life by moving around was ever said to be detrimental to her. This means it would have been well within her rights to get rid of Ciel and Shiki right there, cancel her Luminary and wrap things up had it not being for her emotional state.Also. It's directly stated in game that not even TAs can utilize Planetary scale power to do whatever they want cuz their vessels can't take it.
Well I don't think it's the planet cutting them off directly as much as the fact that everything in the universe is subject to some rules. In this case that 'anything moving on it's own becomes a living being capable of death' as the above screenshot states. But yeah.If they use that shit for anything else, the Planet cuts them off.
You mean like Woodwose and Morgan? They are the only two noteworthy A-Rei. Woodwose I can see it, but Morgan died very quickly. It could be that there are individual differences between A-Rei, since it's not like we've seen other TA.A-rei's don't.
And since they're Planetary scale Elementals just like the TAs, they're probably functioning within the same general paramaters sans TA Royalty or maybe even more specifically, the candidates for TM's vessels.
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