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Grammaton said:
‘You dismissed rugrat’

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Poyser said:
What exactly is inaccurate? He reads you as scum for not playing a certain way yet he concedes Melkor IS playing that way and yet reads him scum any way.
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Okay, this is inaccurate:
My initial scum read on Tweet came from his posts towards Bachi as I outlined before and once again in my post to Rugrat:
Lindltaylor said:
You're right there. However, it wasn't the tone read alone. I found his other points towards Bachi either nitpicky, or thrown in later just to raise the value of his tone read. I outlined this in my earlier post. Then he defaulted back to tone read and refused to substantiate. It's a combination of these that formed my initial scum read on him.
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I said that it would be better for Tweet to prod other avenues for me to get a better read of his slot if he isn't going to substantiate his read on Bachi:
Lindltaylor said:
You being stubborn on your Bachi vote just isn't sitting well with him because he actually looks townie to me. You're hedging too much on your "tone" read and haven't substantiated much else concerning Bachi's slot.

And if you're not going to substantiate more, then I do expect you to pick out other directions like prod other players or give reads on other players here from what little we've seen.
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Lindltaylor said:
In fact, "pivoting for the fuck of it" given our low activity thread here would be a much better strategy anyway as it might incite activity and raise different perspectives. I wouldn't mind the effort from you, Tweet.
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Given the low activity thread state, any avenues of approach helps generate activity and and would be better for me to get more reads not only on Tweet, but other respondents as well.

I’m not saying there aren’t other factors in him reading Melkor scum, but if the original point isn’t strong enough to get him to town read someone then why is that the main point he’s using against you? It doesn’t make sense.
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The original point is a standard I am proposing to not only better read him, but might be better for the thread. Tunneling or commenting on only a single slot, however, won't help me here and thus my proposal to tweet stands. And AFTER THAT, the way a player approaches a slot is taken into account as well. This latter point is what I used against Melkor here:

Lindltaylor said:
  • Tweet has had posts concerning mainly Bachi and has been otherwise just responding to other posts concerning him. I haven't seen him pivot any other avenues.
  • Melkor has tried to approach different avenues and tries to form more town reads. His scum read is weaker than tweet, but still exists simply because his reasoning to follow the Bachi vote is bad imo.
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I'm suggesting that Tweet could approach different slots to help me understand his approach because his approach to Bachi was mainly on tone and tone is subjective - interpreted differently by different players. Therefore, more substantiation on Bachi's slot could have been made to convince me, or prodding elsewhere. Prodding elsewhere would help me see his approach to different players and judge those approaches - a metric I used on Melkor as quoted above.

Poyser said:
Look at the way lind read both tweet and Melkor, I’ve mentioned it a few times already. He basically read tweet as scum for not prodding more people, then admitted Melkor did this but scum read him anyway so not really sure why he’s so confident on tweet considering the only thing he had on him was something he dismissed for someone else?
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No. Read above ^. The approaches to both the slots are nuanced in steps and different. According to you, then, I wouldn't be giving Tweet more consideration and re-think my read on his slot if what you said was my main pet peeve with him, but I'm doing the exact opposite here:
Lindltaylor said:
If it's anything, Tweet's stubbornness here might be townie. It doesn't benefit his position as scum to have his only scum read come from a tone tell and discard other slots apart from a town read on Gad.

Melkor said that Tweet's scum meta isn't this bold and Gram town read him for his aggressiveness too - both of which is evidently displayed in his interactions with me thus far. I could perhaps just be wrong on his slot.

I wouldn't mind more input from others here tbh.
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If I read Tweet as scum for not prodding more people, then I wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt for being stubborn on a single read. What happened is exactly the opposite of what you said.
 
And with all that and catching up, I'd like to read Hans as town here. There's no merit for him as scum to town read me when he could have simply jumped the wagon, same for Melkor. Town read on Magic as well.

Rugrat goes into my scum reads. He was one of the players present during the entire inactivity phase of this day and also responded to my Tweet post at the time that he doesn't see a weak case at a formative point in the phase on someone to be scum. If he's extending curtesy to one slot for that measure, it should coincide to extending the same to other slots too. And if he had problems, he didn't mention any of it then with my case until now really. Looks very opportunistic.
 
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