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[Mr. Reloaded]

I do think Flower should be further interrogated upon her return

Oh-ho. And why do you think this?

 

[Magic]

NAI

I'm just being a goober.

What do you think of lind?

 

[Yoho]

Oh-ho. And why do you think this?

Maybe I'm looking to deep into it but she always seems desperate for a vote whenever she's scum

Usually when town Flower complains that people are voting to fast and wants to use the time given

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

What do you think of lind?

Townie. Why?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Maybe I'm looking to deep into it but she always seems desperate for a vote whenever she's scum

Usually when town Flower complains that people are voting to fast and wants to use the time given

I don't recall her doing that when we were scummates in Avatar though

 

[Yoho]

I don't recall her doing that when we were scummates in Avatar though

don't think I was around in those days

 

[Arne Slot]

Let's get it out of the way early this time so I don't forget. I am so forgetful fr fr on god

You haven't explained how I "looked worse" because your takeway is in complete isolation to the rest of the players, barring Melkor. And yes, you do feel off; the MQ you used as your entry into the game comes off as deliberate and forced.

Agree with this, not liking gad at all. Will caveat this by saying I don't believe I've ever read him correctly lol

Can go into the bin tier:

• Yoho
• RDK
• Melkor
• Lethal

How does gad not make this list given the post I quoted above was literally right before it lol

Right this about the level of what I expected from you. So no explanation of why I look worse vs Lind. So can assume safely now your making up shit, gotcha.

And then you go right back to pushing him?? HOW WAS GAD NOT ON THE LIST LMAO

I’m gonna say it;

I think there’s a fair chance Lethal was bussing Magic. If people have the viewpoint that Lethal is scum because he’s wanting to jostle Magic in particular from the rest, then I’d think it fairly logical he’d pick a teammate. It’d serve to double down on “Lethal wouldn’t go after Magic as scum” to “Lethal wouldn’t go after his scum mate” if they’re aligned”. Obviously serves as a nice tool to distance since Magic wouldn’t be getting lynched D1

Feels like a thought I would plausibly have had myself at this junkture tbdean

I think it's a good direction to look at who's voting Lehal and see when and why they got there.

Why

This ^

I don't think Magic and Lethal are aligned from how it plays out if Lethal flips scum. Like Magic is out here setting up a Gad wagon while trying to derail mine and then his teammate supposedly comes and botches it by placing a vote on Magic?

Seems too uncoordinated and terrible play.

This makes no sense. Lethal could absolutely just show up and make a throwaway vote post

Lethal just came off a strong scum game where he put in effort every time he showed up. Don't think he's coming into this game by posting once then disappearing. He knows how that looks.

Also @Rugrat why did you say gad isn't a worthwhile target as he's low hanging fruit then go for the lowest hanging fruit imaginable in lethal.

Feels like a solid reason to town read lethal, not sure why this threw people tbh

Let's declare it boldly for the people in the back. There's a 0% chance lethal is scum here. I'll give you maybe a half percent at best

Don't see why scum magic would throw himself in front of a mislynch so authoritatively like this

1. I did not say GAD wasn’t a worthwhile target. I said in a choice of him/Odo as your main two reads - you should be pressing the “better” one as Odo would be much harder to lynch.

2. Lethal looked like the only plausible lynch at this point in day and I wasn’t reading him town. In addition to this; my main town read (Poyser) seemed to strongly think he was scum too. Lastly, I think you and Lethal being aligned makes sense - so it could be very fruitful on my read of your alignment too.

this feels t/t to me. Magic's question was valid and Rugrats response feels reasonable

Yes, and that's a theory I don't agree with. Like you'd have to assume complete incompetence on both their parts for this to play out like this to support the teammate theory.

It's a world that's very rare to give much credence to and Magic doesn't strike me as that type of player from what I've seen.


I really don't mind Lethal at all. Never said I was opposed to him. It's only on Gad that I town read.

How is it incompetence on BOTH of their parts of lethal just shows up and drops a vote? How would that have reflected badly on magic at all in this scenario where they're scum together? You are really reaching to defend this bizarre read of yours

Man I completely forgot CP was playing this game

@Tempest come give your thoughts on lethal plz. Hes an 8 post ISO so not difficult

I can see in context now why he asked this of me given magic asserting with 100% certainty lethal was town. That absolutely would have given me pause and I'm not sure scum poyser would want to invite me to come in here and possibly muck up the runaway lethal mislynch

I think GAD is probably town if Lethal is scum. Lethal seemed very certain that GAD would flip town and Magic was scum.

R E E K E D of TMI

Seems like a real thought

 

[Arne Slot]

Kinda feel like I'm cheating fr fr, everyone can make themselves seem town when doing a catch up lmao. Probably dying tonight

 

[Arne Slot]

What? Why though?

The selectiveness of this post asking gad about his "somebody off fang" post intrigues me given the sparsity of reloadeds content overall and the fact I'm not liking either slot, low key

 

[Arne Slot]

I would like to clarify something, because I feel like I was not clear earlier.

About Ekko :
People said that what I said about Ekko was not making sense. Yeah, it was not making really sense. I was myself confused in what I said after rereading. But I still on the idea that I highly doubt Ekko would do the "I'm not reading" shitty stuff as a scum. It's probably a challenge of him for himself or maybe he's just dumb. Sure, this only counts if we assume he's not lying about his statement. I won't totally exclude Ekko's case, but I will consider him as a neutral third party for the moment.

About Melkor and Ratchet :
I've been on Melkor early and I still think he's suspect. His playstyle at the start of the game still looks awful, very opportunistic. I have doubts on Ratchet too after he totally invented a point on me which is not accurate to the reality of what I said. I'm considering it as shading on my slot. Coming in a moment where Melkor had a wagon on him. This just looks like he took his defense for me. That's why I will keep my vote against Melkor. I'm expecting him to turn scum which would go in the sense of my theory about Ratchet defending him.

Another point I would like to talk about Gram :
Grammaton seemed a bit lost at a certain point of the game. I have the impression he was not sure of the direction he was willing to take. It looks like indie behavior. This is just a theory so far.

no evolution of thoughts whatsoever after a long spell out of the game and a nothing prod at gram. Weak. Fr fr

 

[Aurelian]

Spoiler: incoming huge ass tl dr ISO of Melkor

Change vote lynch Bachi

Reason, Hans said that im sounding like a robot, what is your reason?

Maybe I like his reasons or just feel you are better direction than Ekko right now?

Yeah but I need to know your reason, and why Im a better direction than Ekko?

I did not have townie impression from your early posts.

I cannot entirely exclude the world in which Ekko is scum. He can do bold moves as scum, for example faking vanilla cop in Christmas Mafia (and getting away with it).

I happened to like his case.

I also do not have a strong scum read yet so happy to follow wagons on players i do not town read.

Day 1 for me is to Large extent seeing which wagons arise and how they gain traction.

It looks like Bachi responded to Tweet by referring to past games, which I do not remember.

His recent posts do not look that bad though. May be some genuinity in pushing me.

If you say so, Usopp-chan.

Also, I am the top poster in this game, who wants to form a day 1 towncore with me? I never get to join those.

@Emil reads on Gad, Reloaded and Bachi if you can?

Hm, your reaction looks to be genuine at least.

I think Fuji mite be a dirty Ind*e

Was gonna just add Melkor seems to be waffling quite a bit

@Emil


Were you not voting me already? Also, do you have any other reads? I am town.

You are Trump with PR restriction?

Who would you invite to your victory party?

Are you a dirty scum?

What do you mean by "waffling? I am not even sure i know this word.

Vote lynch Aurelian

"Waffling" my ass.

I did not get a townie vibe from you so far and you seem to be within your scum range based on previous game when you were MVP. I do not recall anything of note from you so far other than following the push on me.

It is not a strong scum read though, unfortunately i lack those at the moment.

Gonna say I agree that Fang does not look good in his interaction with Lind

Gonna push there until RDK gives us more

Vote Lynch Fang

How do I look 'not good' when Lind was doing nothing but trying to steer Tweet's focus off Bachi? Why would that be a bad 'look' for me exactly?

@Gadministraitor how do you connect the dotes on 2 players I have shown to be neutral on: Tweet and Lind, over a third player, Bachi, and Lind receiving the backlash for trying to press Tweet for basically busywork from his main suspect and say that makes me look bad.

Can you explain?

I think Melkor is the way

[Vote lynch Melkor]

ScumMelkor tends to throw easy quick town reads fyi

Sorry i wanted to say "town read".

Grammaton's frustration with the game sounds genuine. Does he even try things like this as scum?

@Magic some examples of stuff from Poyser which I liked.

Do you have a read on Gad?

vote lynch Lethal

i really dislike this claim from him

My problem this game so far is that i struggle to find clear scum reads. People are propably getting better.

RDK, Lethal, Nibel do not look great to me, but no way scum Team are just low activity players.

Yoho may be just confused town?

Ratchet is propably just busy, activity is NAI for him

@Grammaton who do you like least among the active players?

Gad's play does not look terrible, but he seems to play in different way than in his previous town games. Putting more effort and more caution. Maybe Magic is on to something.

Might have to

Vote Lynch Lethal

Interesting post. Especially your observations about @Aurelian that says he has long term plans for my flip but does not entertain possibility i am town.

Also Aurelian and RDK can be scum together, that vote from Fang on RDK came quick.

Okay so based on like all 5 posts from Haza, how do I have equity with him exactly

I have no reason to read him as town from anything he's posted so far

In my last game with Aurelian and Lethal as scum among the players of this game, there was almost no communication between the team in scum chat. I do not see hypothetical scum Magic and scum Lethal discussing strategy extensively in their chat.

Just noticed you were quick to vote him, it would fit your modus operandi as distancing as scum.

Not that RDK looks great in isolation anyway.

Well, it worked very well first time.

Besides there is bussing and distancing to balance - a push does not need to let to lynch always.

Yeah but you see that strategy is applicable for anyone at anytime so one-track focusing that on me and me alone is bizarre. You will of course provide evidence I played distancing with Haza now, or are you gonna just keep throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks?

It is not like i have a case against you with distancing with Haza being a cornerstone of it.

I have also seen stuff from you which i could interpret as "throwing stuff and seeing what sticks".

Is anyone down for cfding Melkor

Can someone off Fang tonight please?

Can you articulate your case on Gad? Sorry if I missed it, was a bit distracted by stuff.

I mean you said you did not even read his reply but you want to lynch him very badly.

This would be a very bold move in the world you are scum and he is town. And you strike me as cautious scum player, playing chess rather than poker.

Alternative is no lynch at this stage.

Actually I like Bachi more right now.

Is what scum would say if he knew we would have a town flip?

Why quote him and not me lol

Hi Flower!

That is a good argument.

vote lynch Gad

I quess we should check Gram's reads.

I also agree with suss on Nibel.

Hmm...
@Aurelian how sure you are on Gad?

vote lynch RDK

In isolation; Melkor has been jumping onto every potential wagon for a lynch, first sussing and voting Bachi, moving onto OMGUS voting me in the span of 30 seconds after not knowing what waffling means; fishing quite a lot, more so then what typically clueless "townie" Melkor would. felt comfortable enough to never commit on Gad's wagon or push to join in on it from me or Magic or Tweet, but today he's happily going for him. Which is weird because he kept piling in Lethal, Nibel, and RDK for PoE fodder in day 1 but never mentioned me who he felt was a good push with Gad to get me lynched?

He also couldn't exactly articulate or explain how I could have "team" equity with RDK based off a handful of posts and a semi-meme vote I put on him. I'd rather lynch either Melkor or Gad in light of anyone else today.

 

[Arne Slot]

Nibel I think you’re playing several levels below how I’ve seen you in other games - it feels like you’re trying to project confidence in your statements but they’re all kinda … I dunno, meh

Whats your take on that?

Gram picking up on the same thing, interesDEAN given he was killed. Did I pretend not to know this until this point in the read back so I could frame nibel? Seems unlikely, no cap

 

[Aurelian]

[Vote Lynch Melkor]

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

don't think I was around in those days

My point though, was I don't think you can say "well scumflower is desperate to vote for someone when townie flower does not" when it's not consistent. Either way I'd argue the whole voting angle is NAI.

 

[Arne Slot]

Nipples is so far behind on making anything relevant pop up in his post that I'll town read him cause I can't imagine this coming from a group chat scummie.

Does that make sense?

No

Fang and RDK for now. Tryna figure out if my thing against Magic is just me omgussing or my points on his lacks of points make sense

Fang seems pretty obvtown and RDK has been a total nonfactor, dont like this at all. Especially as you seem to be avoiding the looming lethal wagon which ends in a mislynch as we know

Tbh I’m kinda up for just CFDing magic, he had the open floor and wants everyone to follow but hasn’t elaborated on ‘vibe check’

That and saying lethal is 0% scum is just insane imo, you can have doubts sure, heck I have them but that doesn’t really add up with the evidence available

Feel like gram just keeps slipping on the same banana peel tbh, fr.

 

[Arne Slot]

The problem with this post is that you claim you don't want Gramm being indie theory to take up too much space for you, yet, it's not something that we brought up. You did. You made this up, went down that wagon, and then claim you're acting on conclusions you came to on this road you paved...

Okay I like this better

 

[Yoho]

My point though, was I don't think you can say "well scumflower is desperate to vote for someone when townie flower does not" when it's not consistent. Either way I'd argue the whole voting angle is NAI.

Possible I might of been looking to deep into it

 

[Yoho]

My point though, was I don't think you can say "well scumflower is desperate to vote for someone when townie flower does not" when it's not consistent. Either way I'd argue the whole voting angle is NAI.

Yeah true that's the main reason I don't agree with the whole oh they did this, this game thing

But just to play devils advocate against myself

what did you and Flower do has scum mates during Avatar

 

[Arne Slot]

8 minutes

Lethals play points toward scum but I’m spooked by magic saying he’s 100% town, and I think reloadeds vote and apparent bloodthirstiness to get him gone doesn’t really mesh with the rest of his play

Just saying I don't think scum magic kills gram n1, I don't think scum poyser kills gram n1 given gram was largely in alignment with him, but I CAN see a scum team with the likes of Nibel and reloaded in it wanting gram gone as he seems to have caught on to them

 

[Arne Slot]

There was no resistance to gram suddenly being voted.

No resistance to lethal being wagoned.

Why has it been such an uphill battle to wagon low hanging fruit gad?

What battle? You showed up with no guns and climbing gear, and you were asked to

Another fair question from magic fr fr but also on God gad's combative response vibes town