Game Death Note Mafia

[The X]

Loosely caught up, i have read everything in large blocks so I wouldn't say my memory is excellent regarding it.

I don't agree that he hasn't done a whole lot of solving, we had similar reads earlier which does make me feel positive about him as well in that sense. I expect him to be pretty hostile as town tbh and not much entertaining of cases against him. If I remember correctly he would normally find one person he was real confident in and push them real hard when town, not so much in the general way of a wide net.

I'd have flower scum sided at the moment, poyser though I'm not sure of. I don't see him offering himself up for Lethal too much in the event he is actually scum. He would have known the flip in advance etc. But on the flip side of that he could definitely WIFOM it

But has Gram actually tried to solve those slots he sussed? Because I sure as hell don't know who his main targets are or who he has been pushing. Sure he has reads, all players, no matter alignment, should be able to makes reads. What reads in particular did you agree with of his? Okay, but using your own words, I don't think Gram has found that one person he's real confident in and it's D3. There's been no hard pushes by Gram at all this game, just snipes and snide comments. The lack of conviction is the same for Poyser. D1 they both sat on the fence with things and then D2 they both sat on the fence and then voted for Lethal. D3, there has been a lot of interaction with Flower and nothing else. I see no fire or conviction in Poyser or Gram this game.

I think wolf Poyser is absolutely capable of handling Lethal the way he did, but if Poyser is wolf, I don't think he did it as convincingly as possible because I don't really buy it. If you look through some of my recent posts, I've been quoting Poyser posts that I felt really felt mailed in. He went from town reading Lethal D1, to being convinced he was wolf D2. Now he's pivoted to Big Man and thinks that is the best option out of everything. I don't buy that at all.

Flower I agree with you has been pretty sussy this game. I really can't follow her logic at all this game and don't understand what her angle is at all.

 

[Evans]

bolded is the best point here, and that is still too early to say without flips as u have mentioned at the start of the post

in the games I played here I have a hard day 1 and 2 because I don't know most players well, but also I want to try to stay as neutral as possible and observe all sides before choosing one based on who I think plays better. i think one thing u r missing here, and one that wud be hard for me to fake as scum is that i'd probably have a much easier time to pick a side as scum than town, because I already know everyone's alignment it wud be easier to position and pick the favorable side.

if I level with u here I don't think our reads and progression have been different either. this post is actually somewhat scummy, because u shud know we r currently not in a position for me to be able to tunnel anyone or have a confident read on anyone. i have scum reads, but not enough to lock me onto the player like RDK.

and I think from recent games, town tends to allow me tunneling them more than scum, who just either tries to position well to avoid the tunnel or kills me or tries to pocket me instead.

what if I play a game and not tunnel. what's scum gna do now that I remain unpredictable in where I will go next? they cant rly just reserve my slot thinking I'm gna help them go somewhere anymore, because I could in an instant pick a side against them

some of this is happening naturally, other I am consciously about this game and I am going to stick to it

you didn’t bold anything

 

[Evans]

Ignore that - hard to see on my phone

 

[Emil]

what I meant was I don't really make cases on people, the way I usually catch scum is when there's a mafia flip I go and do POE based on interactions between the dead scum and other players in the game. if I have more scum flips I can cross reference and narrow it down further. usually do pretty well at it but it does require getting scum flips in the first place which I usually do by trying to identify strong town players early on and help them achieve their aims since it's most likely to lead to dead scum

all of that is moot this game because we have no scum flip and no townies are inspiring me to follow them, and so all I have are my sus vibes on you and your shameless alcoholism. this was in response to you telling me to drop a case on you. idk how you got to "I think you're scum because I analyzed lethal's town flip, nevermind that I was trying to lynch you well before we lynched lethal"

im town u can follow me trust

 

[Big Man]

Lethal 3 - Soulkiller, Ekko, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ultra 5 - Lethal, RDK, Alco, Ratchet, Poyser
Tpein 1 - Dalton
Ekko 2 - Evans, Tweet
Poyser 8 - Phenom, Ultra, BLD, Tpein, Arp, Yoshi, Rugrat, Evans

day 2 in elden ring

literally only one mafia on the main wagon. no lynching CLEARLY favorable for scum no matter how u spin it

big man / gram proposing no lynch is scummy by default, when we have no indication of how the setup is

I mean I asked if a no lynch would hurt us because im not familiar with this type of game and ultra (who I believe is familiar) answered saying it would have the same outcome. why did you leave that part out lol?

 

[Emil]

Craig, I've literally tried to interact with Gram and solve his slot three times already this game. Each time it has devolved into him throwing chirps my way and eventually just dropping the conversation with some snide remark. There's no swatting away, there's just Gram giving up.

Not sure how you could swat away things in your sleep when you're too afraid to interact with me without having someone already doing it first. Keep chirping from the sidelines, though.

does gram scum read u? i cant even recall his read of u.

@Grammaton

 

[Emil]

I'm pretty sure I made this post before I read the host interpretations.

good way to confirm u r scum ^^

 

[Evans]

But has Gram actually tried to solve those slots he sussed? Because I sure as hell don't know who his main targets are or who he has been pushing. Sure he has reads, all players, no matter alignment, should be able to makes reads. What reads in particular did you agree with of his? Okay, but using your own words, I don't think Gram has found that one person he's real confident in and it's D3. There's been no hard pushes by Gram at all this game, just snipes and snide comments. The lack of conviction is the same for Poyser. D1 they both sat on the fence with things and then D2 they both sat on the fence and then voted for Lethal. D3, there has been a lot of interaction with Flower and nothing else. I see no fire or conviction in Poyser or Gram this game.

I think wolf Poyser is absolutely capable of handling Lethal the way he did, but if Poyser is wolf, I don't think he did it as convincingly as possible because I don't really buy it. If you look through some of my recent posts, I've been quoting Poyser posts that I felt really felt mailed in. He went from town reading Lethal D1, to being convinced he was wolf D2. Now he's pivoted to Big Man and thinks that is the best option out of everything. I don't buy that at all.

Flower I agree with you has been pretty sussy this game. I really can't follow her logic at all this game and don't understand what her angle is at all.

Your paragraph on Poyser is good.

I did find it weird how he flipped around and dismissed all behaviour on Lethal when I was dropping quotes and comparisons to his behaviour from his Elden Ring posts.

I felt uncomfortable how he switched but as Lethal unravelled I was more and more comfortable with Poysers opinion. I need to read back to see how why and when he flipped compared to Lethals posts

 

[Evans]

Your paragraph on Poyser is good.

I did find it weird how he flipped around and dismissed all behaviour on Lethal when I was dropping quotes and comparisons to his behaviour from his Elden Ring posts.

I felt uncomfortable how he switched but as Lethal unravelled I was more and more comfortable with Poysers opinion. I need to read back to see how why and when he flipped compared to Lethals posts

what the fuck are those emojis

 

[The X]

where did this feeling come from though? out of thin air? also, you made a claim before lethal flipped that you think scum refused to hammer. why have you not made any conclusions off that in terms of players alignments? have you even gone back to look at the wagon after you had that feeling to see who was trying to push it through and who was trying to stop it? I feel like if you have that feeling you should use it try and make reads off how people played around the wagon but there doesn't seem to be an attempt to do that. just a blanket statement about scum not wanting the lynch to go through which gives us nothing.

It didn't come out of thin air. While I did case Lethal and thought he was scum D1, there was a lingering paranoia that I was maybe wrong. Now, I don't blame myself for being wrong about Lethal because I think his town play has a lot of tells many players would read as scum, but I felt maybe I shouldn't relentlessly try to bury Lethal, especially since last game I was also wrong about him. I felt like I made a pretty decent case against Lethal and with the way he played, and no other option, I thought Lethal would flip D1. He was at L-1 for a LONG time and it was dead quiet. That sat funky in my gut. I can't tell you exactly what went down that EOD (I tried to start a reread of D1 but I just don't have enough time during the week) but I just felt with my lingering tinfoil that shit was being big brained this game, that Lethal could be town. Also looking at how fast Lethal's wagon built up again D2 shows another point that maybe they wanted to push Lethal quick in D2 (I'd have to reread D2).

I have made conclusions, though. Poyser and Gram were both town reading Lethal and did not vote for him D1. Both of them ended up voting for Lethal D2, a day phase that got hammered early. I don't buy either of them having natural progressions on Lethal enough that they both legitimately thought that wolf Lethal had bamboozled them in D1. If Poyser and Gram are both town, especially Poyser, they both thought that Lethal had played well enough, subverted his scum meta, and tricked the two of them, into believing he was town. Then, if they're both town, somehow Lethal, after bamboozling Poyser and Gram, two massive opponents, continues to unravel D2 until the point that he just gives up, letting go of any confidence he had gained after tricking Poyser and Gram D1. That's just a fucking thought process from the boys that I have a really hard time swallowing.

 

[The X]

Tpein is absolutely right when he says Poyser and Gram literally think they can't be lynched in games. You've been warned here.

 

[Evans]

Lethal 3 - Soulkiller, Ekko, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ultra 5 - Lethal, RDK, Alco, Ratchet, Poyser
Tpein 1 - Dalton
Ekko 2 - Evans, Tweet
Poyser 8 - Phenom, Ultra, BLD, Tpein, Arp, Yoshi, Rugrat, Evans

day 2 in elden ring

literally only one mafia on the main wagon. no lynching CLEARLY favorable for scum no matter how u spin it

big man / gram proposing no lynch is scummy by default, when we have no indication of how the setup is

Big Man yes
Odo literally made posts today saying to lynch all VTs and made a huge point about scum only needing to kill 2 people to win the game

 

[The X]

Poyser literally said we could lynch him if Lethal flipped town, even opened up the day by saying that he'll enjoy his first mislynch in five years. Where are the votes? Who went after him? That speaks to his position in thread and how he does not fear a lynch.

 

[The X]

Big Man yes
Odo literally made posts today saying to lynch all VTs and made a huge point about scum only needing to kill 2 people to win the game

I am curious as to if scum can actually kill any townies except L and N this game.

 

[Evans]

Lethal 3 - Soulkiller, Ekko, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ultra 5 - Lethal, RDK, Alco, Ratchet, Poyser
Tpein 1 - Dalton
Ekko 2 - Evans, Tweet
Poyser 8 - Phenom, Ultra, BLD, Tpein, Arp, Yoshi, Rugrat, Evans

day 2 in elden ring

literally only one mafia on the main wagon. no lynching CLEARLY favorable for scum no matter how u spin it

big man / gram proposing no lynch is scummy by default, when we have no indication of how the setup is

Why are you comparing wagons in not only a different game, but a very fucking different setup?!

 

[Emil]

Poyser, Evans

one of these need to go today.

can u in ur own words say why evans?

 

[Evans]

I am curious as to if scum can actually kill any townies except L and N this game.

It’s definitely a bluff worth calling. With scum only after 2 players, I don’t think his lynch would be detrimental to town

 

[Evans]

can u in ur own words say why evans?

Cause they’re scum

 

[Evans]

Tiara/Poyser/Big Man in they order tbh

 

[The X]

does gram scum read u? i cant even recall his read of u.

@Grammaton

I honestly could not tell you what he reads me as. I don't really know any of Gram's reads, that's the point.