ultra WOAT this game or just scum
sad
im gna sleep on it
gn
I'm strongly preferring taking a swing at you over our current triad.
ultra WOAT this game or just scum
sad
im gna sleep on it
gn
ultra if i am being uncharitable here I could easily see what u r doing as
1. tmi'ing poyser will flip town
2. setting me up as a mislynch in the event he does
you have yet to argue the points we brought against poyser. you just wifomed "he is a good player so whats the scum motive" but haven't really provided the town motive
for instance poyser has already wasted 2 day phases for us, and could have gotten away with it today if we don't lynch him. that is a scum motive enough
I don't think town poyser sees town wasting 2 days then goes "yep lynch me". that's just asking to lose and game throw, and he isn't a game thrower
ding ding ding
maybe try the 40 or so preceding it too
Got anything else to add, at the moment?
this is another post of poyser i can sympathize withidk why im finding it so hard to find town this game, its frustrating
well make sure ur here b4 EoD for some talk then!!I'm strongly preferring taking a swing at you over our current triad.
no u didntYou are literally just lying. I addressed your shit arguments comprehensively.
Yes big man often does have a lower post count that doesn’t really achieve much as scum. Not always tho it probably depends on motivation for him but it’s been a long ass time since I’ve seen him as a motivated scum player. I’m more reading him based on the fact that when he’s town, even with low post count, he makes great posts that make a lot of sense to me. His lethal read made no sense to me at all lolhe's putting his wolf fangs in me BLD. I'm starting to believe he is towny even tho I agree with u that just lynching vanilla sux
u arent going anywhere lol. help us solve this mess
our PoE look similar. let me ask few things
whats bigman like as scum? is he low activity like this just shading people?
big man shaded BLD but went nowhere with it yesterday. can this be some distancing? is this something bigman does with a low post count?
what made u turn back and put psychic as scum. fwiw I agree I don't think we can tolerate that slot much further tbh, but evans is now trying to be opporutintic on it and I don't read evans town so its giving me a pause
lastly, evans/cp/doddsy - I think at least one of those is a wolf tbh. i have disliked them for the reasons u seem to be liking them for lol
Can you explain whyPoyser, Evans
one of these need to go today.
Not really retarded, I’ve seen scum say they are gonna make some big effort post later and then never get round to it all the time lolBecause you were being a nuisance before hand in insisting I was scummy for not dropping a case that I said I would purely by my own initiative. It's a retarded reason to suspect someone. Nobody out a gun to my head to case Ekko.
How are you sussing him if you think he really is lightIn a game where we lose if the lynchpin is lynch, we kinda have to claim lynchpin if we are lynchpin. there's literally no going around that. You are back on my scumlist.
Ahahaha. I know what you're doing Ultra, you're playing mind games with me. Pretending to do these weak scumhunts to act like you're actually scumhunting. But I see when you're actually scumhunting and you put in way more effort. I have no doubt you're actually Light. I know you say it in jest because you think too highly of your skills to blend in and look townie. But you're not fooling me.
Did we kill you last game I thought Evans did? Also I don't coast how dare you.doddsy's probably coasting scum again lmao that's just such a default place for me to land tho. then again, when I landed there last game, I was right! (and got shot immediately after ending day with my vote on him)
I notice you brought up me trying to lynch big man to shade me here but have no thoughts on him yourself. Why is that?And I'm going to need more from you!
I've been pretty transparent with my thoughts and ideas on Gram and Poyser's slots, so I don't want to rehash that too much. I think Gram has been more inclined to talk shit and disrupt things than actual scum hunting or slot solving. I think he's also shown gaps with his logic. Poyser is less obvious but I think the way he's handled certain slots have been poor. He pushed Psychic easily but rode the fence with Lethal. Now he's been trying to toss out Big Man and me as susses without really following through too hard. Look at how Poyser as an indie went after me in Elden Ring. Here, he's not even coming after my slot, just throwing out shade and hoping someone else will pick it up. I've seen him say 'what about BPD' a few times now this day and he hasn't even come after me himself.
I kind of think Flower is full of shit this game. I haven't been able to follow her logic at all and I think what she has said contradicts what she's doing and how she's voting quite a bit. I feel no real fire in her this game and she is happy to let others take the lead, happy to switch up her thoughts and votes without much reasoning, and just go where the flow is going. I think she's also been pandering and posturing with players that don't know her, specifically Gram and Poyser, about certain aspects of her game and what she might do as a certain alignment. This game Flower just feels completely off.
From the start, Evans has tunneled Lethal with some interaction with Poyser and that's basically been it. Those are definitely points against his favor, but I never felt like it was scum Evans trying to mislynch Lethal. He made a small case against Lethal to begin with that I could see validity in. Then he brought up posts from other games and asked Poyser to check Lethal's meta. Then in D2, it didn't feel like Evans was a wolf mislynching Lethal, it felt like a townie who thought that they were about to absolutely dunk all over a wolf. So while I don't think Evans' game has been necessarily pretty, I can't see scum motivation in it.
CP feels town this game. I think he's questioned a few things that made sense. I think he's legit confused and lost in this game. I also think similar logic applies to him that Gram tried to apply to Lethal, that he wouldn't be unnecessarily aggressive if scum. CP has tried to chirp from the sidelines and considering how he knows I can tunnel him, I doubt he'd want that smoke from me (it's just in his personality to not get into these big fights as well). So I'd be shocked if scum CP tries to question the game state and player's minds, while chirping at me, it doesn't feel safe and I do think that CP would rather play it safe than engage.
Doddsy can be scum for all I know. His pop ins have felt uninspiring and out of touch. However that was not at all how he played in Elden Ring as scum. I feel like it'd be pretty hard for him to be this disinterested and unengaged as scum here.
Psychic I have no personal issues with. I think the early suss on her was wack and I thought she did a decent job defending herself. She was actually the one that started to lean into Poyser first for what she thought was him asking people to claim, so I thought that made her look good. I've literally played in one game with her so I have no real points of reference to make.
I think Gram, Poyser, and Flower should all be in POE. I think that Psychic and Doddsy could be scum but maybe not. I think CP and Evans are probably town but have a slight chance of being scum.
Never once said he was on his scum meta, try again. I said he’s within scum range, which he was. Doesn’t mean he’s not town tho!It should be more damning that Lethal was apparently in his scum meta and Poyser didn't do shit D1.
What the fuck are you talking about lmao? On D1 I pushed psychic and then pushed evans and even tpein. d2 I pushed lethal to death.Like, Lethal of all players have somehow improved so much in his scum game, in so little time, to fool Poyser for two days only for that to change when Lethal completely lost his emotional rationale? I don't buy it. Poyser has not wanted to push shit all game.
What are you talking about? You specifically said you think he’s town for the way he jumped on tpeins slip out of “OMGUS” and “self pres” and that his read of tpein on D2 seemed much more genuineI didn't even read lethal town lol, I guess that makes it 0 reads I gave! I guess me not hammering might have given the impression that I read him town but I didn't read him either way and thought a no lynch would be better than a mislynch at the time but I think that's wrong now.
you scum reading lethal because of the change in read pinged me because of the comments you made when I brought up him changing his read on ultra. it's a bit awkward now because I was going to argue your points further but I didn't end up getting a chance and now he's flipped. you say the situations aren't the same because he tried to explain the change this time and it didn't make sense but it literally doesn't matter if he tried to explain it or not.
just going to come back to this after I'm caught up because the explanation is confusing when I try to explain it and it's easier to just provide context with a multiquote lol.