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Ah Dalton, I see you've quoted me, just don't know where the fuck I am in the timeline of when you've quoted me and what needs to be responded to. My catch-up a bit more before responding.
 
I mean honestly Magic regardless of my alignment being up for a lynch Day 1 is very frustrating because I don't think it's at all earned. I don't think it's very arrogant of me to suggest that when Town I'm capable enough to be helpful to my alignment, so gambling on a Day 1 lynch for that just seems shit to me. Actually if you factor in that I've never been lynched as scum Day 1 I'd be even more frustrated over this. I don't know I don't think that's a good reason to read me as town here.

I mean it's the correct read but I'm not seeing where you get to alignment from that.
Are you suggesting people shouldn't vote for their most likely scumread, but rather for someone who has a semblance of a scumread but is also 'bad'?

Also miss me with the egotistical "I've never been lynched as scum Day 1" nonsense.
 
Ah Dalton, I see you've quoted me, just don't know where the fuck I am in the timeline of when you've quoted me and what needs to be responded to. My catch-up a bit more before responding.
dont rush tbh, i dont plan on getting into a back and fourth on anything anytime soon as I'm still reading back
 
I'm basically saying despite your own self-belief in your ability to read me or anyone else with infallible perfection, you are often very wrong with reading people in general. So I'm saying in the context here of you calling my post "wolfish" i.e. shading it as possibly scummy because I'm looking at Craig & Magic as scummy and your sole caveat is "Town Fang never says he's not great at solving people" like its OOC for me is pretty brain-dead silly.

Not interested in going further then this on the matter.
 
A lot of this has nothing to do with what the point I'm making lol.

Ekko didn't give a town read to you while repeatedly calling it Town v town. I found that preemptive. As cp said earlier it looks like the town read got stronger after the fact rather than at the time of all this happening so there was really no reason to be trying to get you off anything you were doing rather than letting it play out so he could read your slot.

Also I'm sure you can agree that even the lean that you were towny for taking your time with your response (opposed to just not around) doesn't actually make much sense.

As for the leader thing, he took on this approach because it wasn't working. Its not me auggesting it as an assumption, it was the exact reason he gave to adopt it. He's only been town when doing this. He's done better in every game because of it. The fact he reverted to an older Meta, that he has done before as scum, would make sense as scum as it's more of a Comfort zone thing.

The stuff with tpein is the same way. He stated in an earlier game that tpein is always Paranoid about his slot and so towncore hasn't been a thing really. This game it started off the gate. I'm not trying to discredit either of them, but it pings me because it's screaming in my face.
Oh well fuck I'm here at this post so might as well respond.

I don't think he was calling it 'town versus town', though, he was trying to PREVENT any possibility of tvt happening. Ekko was very forward about his town read of Fang and even was confident enough to tell me to disengage with Fang because he was town. I'm not sure why this pings you so hard, though? Are you trying to accuse Ekko of TMI?

No, I actually think that his town lean of me for my delayed response to Fang makes sense. Now, do I think I should have gotten a town lean for how I delayed my response? No, I literally fucked off and went to do other things; I didn't even see Fang accuse me of dipping until I literally logged back on. However, the way explained himself, as well as me knowing the guy, his explanation makes sense for Ekko logic, and I don't really have a problem with how he handled any progression or read on me.

I think you're over complicating and thinking what Ekko might do as wolf; he's not going to go back to some old meta to feel more comfortable. I Lap think that's such a stretch here to try and use for a reason as to why Ekko being a 'leader' might be wolfy. Is this your reason for saying this point is wolfy, because Ekko might feel more comfortable as wolf in an old town meta?

Except aren't you trying to kind of discredit them? I don't know how you can call Ekko wolf and try to say his moves this game or wolf motivated, and then say you're not trying to discredit him. Do you think Ekko and Tpein are open buddying as mates then?
 
dont rush tbh, i dont plan on getting into a back and fourth on anything anytime soon as I'm still reading back
Sounds good. To be honest, I don't really know how to argue against having my posts called disingenuous and forced when I know for a fact they're my real, town thoughts. Ha. I guess I'll just have to try and prove to you own in a different way because I don't really want to argue about why my entrance was genuine and not forced.
 
Sounds good. To be honest, I don't really know how to argue against having my posts called disingenuous and forced when I know for a fact they're my real, town thoughts. Ha. I guess I'll just have to try and prove to you own in a different way because I don't really want to argue about why my entrance was genuine and not forced.
That's fair.

I've since called you out on Bray Wyatting which is also probably a difficult one to argue against tbh.

It is what it is.
 
Caught up and have two more things:

@Magic can you lay out your current reads? Can literally just be a list without explanations. I'll explain why after.

People who have Alco as their top scum read are a red flag at this point, dude has barely posted and is currently the definition of low-hanging fruit
 
That's fair.

I've since called you out on Bray Wyatting which is also probably a difficult one to argue against tbh.

It is what it is.
I know you WS boys use that term for something like posturing and talking just to talk? You'll have to clarify that definition for me.
 
I know you WS boys use that term for something like posturing and talking just to talk? You'll have to clarify that definition for me.
Basically using big words at high volumes is often a sign that someone is crafting their posts as scum rather than actually just writing their thoughts
 
Basically using big words at high volumes is often a sign that someone is crafting their posts as scum rather than actually just writing their thoughts
Big words, eh? Are you saying my English degree has finally paid off!?

I guess the best response I got here mate is that sometimes I use big words and I am able to type pretty fast, so big volume isn't too difficult.

But yeah, can't really say much else as a defense here. I will say I am a fairly free posting player as either alignment.

Do you see why I might think your accusations of me not having a genuine entrance, as well as Bray Wyatting, are a bit weak to call me suss?
 
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i do concede that initial point came before the accusation but it also makes no sense. he wasn't taking his time he just wasn't present likely because he left. how would that be towny at all.

also, in regards to bpd eventually stopping, it was a long while he stopped and you kept repeating the sentiment. there, again, was just a lack of real progression there.
This is not the first time you've tried to frame my disengagement from Fang in an incorrect way in an attempt to justify your narrative and I do take issue with it. Ekko literally asked me to stop with Fang in the middle of a conversation with Fang, so it's not like I can instantly drop it. From the post where I said 'I hope to disengage with Fang', I responded to Fang twice more before I told him I was going to 'politely stop talking to him'. After that, I made one more post to him and that was it. I don't think that's a LONG time to take to end our conversation. As well, in an early post, you said I was even lightly pushing him, which is also untrue, and nothing something you've cared to clear up. I think you're treating events and player reads with bad faith.
 
Big words, eh? Are you saying my English degree has finally paid off!?

I guess the best response I got here mate is that sometimes I use big words and I am able to type pretty fast, so big volume isn't too difficult.

But yeah, can't really say much else as a defense here. I will say I am a fairly free posting player as either alignment.

Do you see why I might think your accusations of me not having a genuine entrance, as well as Bray Wyatting, are a bit weak to call me suss?
No, I don't.
Struggling for content and posts that come across as fake are both perfectly rational reasons to suss you.

If I was calling on everyone to wagon you then yes, maybe you'd have a point. But as of now it is perfectly reasonable to have you on my scum list, and I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise.
 
No, I don't.
Struggling for content and posts that come across as fake are both perfectly rational reasons to suss you.

If I was calling on everyone to wagon you then yes, maybe you'd have a point. But as of now it is perfectly reasonable to have you on my scum list, and I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise.
I just think if you're going to call my entrance weak and forced, then you better have a better reason then quoting my post where I asked Craig if he was good. Now I'm forced to determine whether or not you actually think there's something about me that's suss or if you're bull shitting. I feel like you're initial reason to call out my posts for not being genuine is weak. You're saying I'm forcing content, but completely ignore that I shutdown conversation with Fang when, if I was starved for content, I could have kept tapping that sweet maple tree until the white tails came home. Kind of contradicts what you're saying, yeah?
 
This is not the first time you've tried to frame my disengagement from Fang in an incorrect way in an attempt to justify your narrative and I do take issue with it. Ekko literally asked me to stop with Fang in the middle of a conversation with Fang, so it's not like I can instantly drop it. From the post where I said 'I hope to disengage with Fang', I responded to Fang twice more before I told him I was going to 'politely stop talking to him'. After that, I made one more post to him and that was it. I don't think that's a LONG time to take to end our conversation. As well, in an early post, you said I was even lightly pushing him, which is also untrue, and nothing something you've cared to clear up. I think you're treating events and player reads with bad faith.
Bpd ima be honest and say you're treating my slot in bad faith due to what happened last game. I'm not painting a narrative, I'm not trying to misframe shit, and I'm not acting in bad faith. I'm scum hunting.

I'm stating my interpretation of the event and you flat out didn't disengage until you did. Actions speak louder than words. I don't think my interpretation is false nor am I lying, even someone not directly involved what's to chime in I'm more than happy for them to do so but you will obviously have a bias. I don't care if it was one or two posts for you to drop it, the point was you didn't from when he asked. Yet the read got stronger despite this.

He also stated town v town is a generic thing which it frankly isn't. It means what it means which is you think two town are arguing with each other.

I'm not even on Ekko right now and if people don't want to go there then I won't force the issue until I'm dead certain and I'm aware there's a chance he could do all these things as town. I don't want ekko's slot to be my only point of discussion.
 
Caught up and have two more things:

@Magic can you lay out your current reads? Can literally just be a list without explanations. I'll explain why after.

People who have Alco as their top scum read are a red flag at this point, dude has barely posted and is currently the definition of low-hanging fruit
And sure will do later tonight
 
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