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Dr. Watson

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Final Vote Count Day 1

Aurelian - Craig > Xenos > Chouchou > Sky
Magic - Nibel > Craig > Sky
Retro - Nibel
Gram - Aurelian > ChouChou (invalid) > Frinckles > Bachi
Frinckles - Bachi
Sky - Bachi > ChouChou > Bachi > Frinckles
Craig - Bachi > Sky > Frinckles > Magic
Xenos - Aurelian > Nibel
Hayumi - Gram
Tweet - Bachi > Magic > Nibel
Bachi - ChouChou > Sky > Frinckles
Gad - ChouChou (Invalid) > Nibel
Jinri - Frinckles
Nibel - Frinckles

Frinckles - 4
Nibel - 4
Magic - 1
Bachi - 2
Sky - 2
Gram - 1

Day has ended. A majority was not achieved.
Here we are
 

Chairman Nibel

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You keep asking this

Let me put it in a different way, we're now limited on time - we have less than 24 hours

We also have to be careful hammering as there's still time left to decide on a wagon with proper consensus so we have to be wise with where we place our votes

Flower is on the move and diligent about unvoting, so if you vote on a top wagon, she'll remove her vote if necessary to avoid the hammer so we can take advantage of the time left

I would prefer you vote in her place with whatever is decided since I have a theory I want to tinker with

Also, can you explain to me why your vote was on Aurelian earlier despite your theory on him being the SK?
It was only to see him claim to see if there was anything inconsistancies. I wanted him to claim so we would see better. Like I said, it's only a theory based on "soulplay" But I just didn't remove it. I'm unvoting for the moment.

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Dr. Watson

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We also didn't reach majority that day either, the fact there's a counterwagon is suspect

Probably part of the reason why Magic voted Sky - he wanted to avoid any accountability on either wagon since Tweet was already sniffing him out by that time and it'd ping others like Gram and Craig and result in an even earlier lynch on him imo

Or he doesn't think that far ahead and it really was just an attempt and him being hopeful Sky's wagon would gain enough traction if he pocketed unsuspecting newbies, idk
 

Frinckles

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We also didn't reach majority that day either, the fact there's a counterwagon is suspect

Probably part of the reason why Magic voted Sky - he wanted to avoid any accountability on either wagon since Tweet was already sniffing him out by that time and it'd ping others like Gram and Craig and result in an even earlier lynch on him imo

Or he doesn't think that far ahead and it really was just an attempt and him being hopeful Sky's wagon would gain enough traction if he pocketed unsuspecting newbies, idk
To be clear, I've played forum mafia for a long while. Lol
 

Flower

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We also didn't reach majority that day either, the fact there's a counterwagon is suspect

Probably part of the reason why Magic voted Sky - he wanted to avoid any accountability on either wagon since Tweet was already sniffing him out by that time and it'd ping others like Gram and Craig and result in an even earlier lynch on him imo

Or he doesn't think that far ahead and it really was just an attempt and him being hopeful Sky's wagon would gain enough traction if he pocketed unsuspecting newbies, idk
It's one of the reasons I scum read him. Town Magic doesn't let a no lynch happen.

But I wouldn't put much stock into that being AI for anyone who was wagoned.
 

Dr. Watson

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It was only to see him claim to see if there was anything inconsistancies. I wanted him to claim so we would see better. Like I said, it's only a theory based on "soulplay" But I just didn't remove it. I'm unvoting for the moment.

Unvote
But did he give you any satisfactory answers?

He's more than likely scum/has a higher chance of being scum if you pay close attention to him following Magic's agenda.

There's a very small chance he was pocketed and got hounded by Magic from the getgo on his Craig vote, which would imply he's town. But that's incremental.

With SK, the only thing that would fit an SK profile is his method of self-preservation by cherrypicking other's plays in response to his own (Xenos vs Aurelian or Gram vs Aurelian as examples)
Otherwise, his interactions with Magic, him voting Sky, etc points to him pressing an agenda alongside Magic. It's just too oriented around traditional scumplay especially when gunning for a lynch against a player that was aggressively challenging her reads, which could prove obviously detrimental to them.

It just looks bad.

SKs wouldn't need to agenda press - they simply would need to blend in without raising suspicion. Imo, he'd be more grounded rather than aggressive because it'd ensure he wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb. I could be wrong, it just doesn't make sense to me viewing it through the lens of an indie play.
 

Flower

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To clarify, if you also count Town of Salem (online and forum version) I have even been playing for 6 years. But I started with normal Mafia in late 2018/early 2019.
 

Dr. Watson

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It's one of the reasons I scum read him. Town Magic doesn't let a no lynch happen.

But I wouldn't put much stock into that being AI for anyone who was wagoned.
But there was no reason to vote Sky. The arguments were particularly weak by default, too.

It just, again, looks like an agenda.
 

Frinckles

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To clarify, if you also count Town of Salem (online and forum version) I have even been playing for 6 years. But I started with normal Mafia in late 2018/early 2019.
Then you'll love that I've been play sc2mafia for some years prior to FM. I'm also the current developer of the mod although I've been lazy lately.

Dark Revenant originally made sc2mafia and worked to develop ToS. We're not so different, you and I.
 

Dr. Watson

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To be clear, I've played forum mafia for a long while. Lol
Yes but you haven't played here, where mass claims are part of the ranked games

Some places don't do this and prefer the mystery via other ways of solving like trying to decipher wagons, but here it's viewed as highly beneficial in order to clear slots and make sense of them and reveal any potential agenda behind people wanting to lynch someone like you.

Does that make sense?
 
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