ok im dumb thanks lolUltra hid behind Lethal.
Ultra flipped town.
Lethal most likely town or Godfather Inventor
If y'all still want me to claim, since these two wanted me to, I will btwI'm quite happy to see Ekko and Dalton claim today. I'm also wary that T-Pein is, once again, getting ignored and looked past, and whenever I end up dying I ask that we go back to that at some point.
If y'all still want me to claim, since these two wanted me to, I will btw
Not sure when this happened/what its in reference to btw.I think your first point about his D1 misses the crucial component that he jumps over the step of engaging with Fang or giving a comment about him before making some observation about the reaction to Fang. And on that point, while there might be some consistency with his suspicions on Retro, he vaguely alludes to everyone who talked about his meta being suspicious (You, me, Ekko), but didn't actually follow up on this, which suggests it's not a real thought and probably just an excuse for what he was already building on her.
I think Ekko's town tbh. Not a big fan of that direction.Ekko first.
I think Ekko's town tbh. Not a big fan of that direction.
Bad, bad post. Fake af. And he didnt answer my question about explaining his reads.Im reading back very slowly at work on my phone but I'm pretty sure the games outpacing my read lol. These are like the first 3 hours of spaced out reading
Come on ratchet are you really even playing if you're not monitoring every player with hidden camera. Lift your game
I can only remember one post of substance from SK so far but I have no recollection of anything in it being relevant beyond it
I think modkill would be more explicitly stated, at least in my experience. I would expect vig picking off inactives
I had this quoted, pretty much see above for why. Modkill would be announced as such
This is a a weird question, why are you operating under the assumption ultra is being killed purely to prove result? He has been pretty heavily sussed and almost lynched the previous day? This kind of has me on edge.
Yeah this is who I thought.
You keep saying reads are 'convenient', can you explain what you mean by that? It's such a weird thing to say to try and discredit a read, I don't understand.
For reference, when CP tries he is probably the best player here so I wouldn't worry about him needing to sheep
To add on to this she's probably the most important character outside of maybe Marika. Likely town, outside chance of like a cult Indy or something but doubtful
Why have we got 6 kill votes on with 25 hours left, no intent to hunt elsewhere in the meantime?
huh wtf is thisim supposed to unlock something when im in threatning circumstances. i have no idea if this means i will survive the first kill or i need to be close to a lynch or what lol
i wanted to propose getting like 75% votes on me but im afraid of executes which why ive never asked lol
there are no alive players other than you and alco around + They are both confirmed town and wanted me to claim so thats not something i can really ignore on my readback lol.@Dalton why are you more concerned about what dead players think about you than current happenings/alive players?
just a gut read. Not someone i'm keen to lynch today.... why
just a gut read. Not someone i'm keen to lynch today.
Considering how aggressive and combative Ultras been all game. Where’s that heat against Ekko?
He knows he’s cooked and he’s playing along with Ekko here
@Evans when ultra flipped town did that not give you pause on Ekko?If he flips scum, you’re scum too!
well ratchet wanted me to claim too so obviously sussed me so i think his reads were a bit off anyway.So, your gut read is more relevant than not only people with up to date game knowledge and players like Ratchet who've been pretty on the money all game/a town leader?
@Evans when ultra flipped town did that not give you pause on Ekko?
NGL I kinda like that you're tunnelling ekko though because that's your town bread and butter.
1. Lethal - I've come away from the hard scum read on Lethal I had. Ultra's flip is gonna give us info towards this, but see my prev post for why I still have Lethal down as scum as opposed to the town read he's getting off everyone else.
5. Retrolize - Honestly trying to figure Retro out. Why seraph a claimed hider? Very strange. The run of posts about hating certain roles and being high etc just seemed like nonsense to me. I also don't get why they wouldn't say who they're worried about setting them up for opportunistic mislynch when they've already claimed their role? Like that information is helpful for town.
6. Ekko - If Ultra/BPD flip scum then I think it makes Ekko look good and moves him away from my suspicions. Although I still feel uneasy about the perceived distancing between him & Ultra.
7. Ratchet - Strongest natural town read from his play all game. The janitor attempt confirms it IMO.
8. RDK - Has been my biggest town read all game but again as per the prev post and the change in activity & thread presence is a bit of an alert IMO.
9. TPein - The CFD was crazy, especially when you look at who joined it.
11. CraigPelton - Literally confirmed town and actively pushing/leading town.
14. Ultra - Pretty set on Ultra being scum still. Hasn't done anything to change my mind and the pushes on inactives like Dalton seem like a distraction.
19. Doddsy - Still leaning town on Doddsy as per my previous reads list.
20. Black Legged Dragon - pretty content it was a slip re: the gun/kill given to RDK. I don't know in what world town BPD would be expecting Lethal to give him a weapon lol. The inconsistencies and tunnels through a scum perspective seem like massive distractions and the willingness to claim under no pressure or demand was ????.
21. Hans Tweetenberg - Tweet's been a rollercoaster this game. I don't get why he's suddenly become averse to the Ultra lynch today but his play has been night & day from D1. I want to give the benefit of a the softest town lean possible based on my current scum reads & directions I wanna go with.
Dalton should be vigged.
He ain’t gonna be around / active long enough for a proper push
Big disagreements are:Uzukage Destroya's Rainbow Reads!
I got players in different piles right now.
Lock Town
Black Legged Dragon - Everyone needs to trust this guy and I promise he will bring you to nirvana.
Probably Just Town
I believe that these will all flip town and be surprised if they don't.
Arp Bladstrum - Can't see any scum motivation here. Pretty transparent. Don't think he plays around with the PR if scum.
Retrolize - This is how I've seen her in every town game and I have no reason not to believe she's town here.
Soulkiller - Thought his play around Fang and his reads list were genuine. Don't really have reason to doubt Soul.
Yoshi - If he's scum, kudos for playing dumb. Not sure if Fang is flailing scum, he tries to dump pressure on his newbie scum partner and vote and pressure Yoshi.
Ultra - Ultra being here might surprise people, but I just don't see him flipping scum. If he does, that's fine and I understand that I'll probably be one of the names as a suggested partner. If he flips scum, sad for me, but happy for town.
Hopefully Town
These are players I read (or want to read) as town, but have paranoia around.
Ratchet - I really do think Ratchet is genuine in this game and I still don't sense much agenda from him. However, I do think he's been a bit loose with the suss finger at times and we are disagreeing a lot this game. I'm not overly paranoia about him because him arguing with Fang, building a case against Ultra, to save a possible GF Lethal, would be doing MENTAL laps.
Evans - I've been reading him town since D1, but I do think his play has a lot to be desired of. Not really familiar with this player at all so he could just be straight up wolf, but I don't think he is? Just enough motivation to get things does as scum, it feels.
Ekko - I REALLY just want Ekko to be town here. I do think that there were parts of his defense of Fang that seemed townie to me. I can see his point of view with RDK and do feel he believes it is true.
TPein - Tpein has said all the right things in my eyes this game. But that could also be a problem since he might just be purposely doing that. I don't think his scum hunting has been optimal and I'm used to a little bit more force from Tpein.
RDK - I initially thought that RDK was town for his interaction with Fang. But I did reread it again and can see RDK letting off the gas a bit and then voting for Tweet. I think he's been absent since then and I hate that Lethal gave the weapon to him. This is a high paranoia slot.
Mystery Pile
I wouldn't say these are null, but not enough posts or familiarity with them to be sure.
Phenom - I think there's enough for me to like, but there's also wiggle room to go the other way. Not a fan of how he wants Ultra without much explanation. Not sure where his reads are.
Big Man - I think this slot is town? Read over D1 posts and there was nothing alarming. Still nothing to really worry about, honestly. Probably just a less active town slot.
Alco - Alco I think has potential to be a tricky wolf here. Has had some good takes but not really much scum hunting. Not sure where their reads are. Does seem a bit casual with going with the flow.
Doddsy - I hate that around the time Lethal came back, there were a couple moments where I thought these two could be mates. I think there's some decent thought process there? Even if I didn't like his vote on me. So he's definitely on the fence here.
Scummy But Claimed
CraigPelton - I'll admit I was in a tunnel on Craig. Still don't like how he has claimed, but I can SEE how his claims can be true. Don't like his play at all, we've not connected on anything this game, and it'll probably be this way until we get a flip that can make one another feel easy about the other.
Hans Tweetenberg - Really have not liked a single thing from Tweet. Him voting together with Poyser and Craig after the two of them voted Tweet in D1 is really sussy. I think he's been focused on things that don't really matter. I would say his claim isn't that tight.
Lethal - We know how I feel about Lethal. Still don't love the claim. Think there were robotic things about the way Lethal typed after returning from their emotional outburst. Hate that Lethal gave the weapon to RDK. That's mad paranoia for me.
Probably Wolf
Rugrat - Really nothing to like from this slot. Don't think he's been productive or active at scum hunting. Has made some posts that are unhelpful or just don't make sense. Seems to be casual where he votes.
Dalton - Ultra made a good case on this slot. I think there has been a lot of deliberate action with Dalton. I think his play around Fang was very careful, almost to the point of avoiding. I think Dalton has also been nicely perched on the sidelines and has been smart about when to chime in and what to say. He almost feels too polished, which is probably initially leaned him town.
so why did you say if ultra flipped scum ekko was scum too in the posts i quoted? am i missing something
Why would it give me pause?
@Evans when ultra flipped town did that not give you pause on Ekko?
NGL I kinda like that you're tunnelling ekko though because that's your town bread and butter.
so why did you say if ultra flipped scum ekko was scum too in the posts i quoted? am i missing something
Big disagreements are:
SK - I didn't like how he was so overenthusiastic with flavour. Felt very forced, and certainly not the sort of thing that would let him be near the top town tier. Also I may be wrong here but I remember him being abrasive as town on WG so this has been a big departure from that.
Yoshi - Not sure what he's done to be in the top tier. Big Man made a good point on him and other than that he's been null at best.
Me - Obviously I'm gonna defend myself anyway but I'm not sure where you got 'polished' from ito my gameplay lol, feel like i've been pretty relaxed and stream of consciousness this game
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