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Why? I said I town read Ultra but I'd vote him over no lynch.
Why? I said I town read Ultra but I'd vote him over no lynch.now im confused ISOing these posts lol
Soulkiller and Yoshi have gone MIA I'm afraidHas Soulkiller really not posted since Friday or is the search here just buggy?
Same thing when people sussed Ultra for not using his hider N1. RDK scum read Ekko and did not shoot him despite a perfect opportunity. That's more suss to me than shooting Ekko and him flipping town.OK my guy
In general, behaviorally:
Anyone can claim "I didn't shoot"
It's convenient, it's easy to just follow and it's most certainly easier to not be able to pick apart
If someone claims they shot someone, a particular player, they place themselves in a position that means they do have to explain why they went out and shot Town
And if they happened to shoot Town in the assumption that the player was scum, someone wouldn't feel guilt or worry about perception, they'd share their results regardless of how bad it looks.
Claiming someone didn't take the shot toward 3 dead bodies is easy.
But it doesn't provide any info. If you have a chance of shooting scum or using a weapon against them, why would you not use it?
If someone is holding back info, it's more likely they're concerned about their image and if they'll be perceived as town, this kind of behavior points to fear rather than any definitive info.
And why should we, as town, immediately follow a claim by someone and assume that claim is truthful? Excluding meta play and reasonings here
What is the reason any claim should be taken at face value? What are the reasons for these claims, what do they look like, where do they lead to?
TMI? How do we know SK resolved him?
I dont think you can be scum after your ability D1 but I guess you could still be SK? Either way I guess I shouldn't worry about you.
Poyser wanted mafia dead lol, this isn't true.
Ooh. Will see if Retro confirmed he should have received an action failed msg. If so he is lying
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Ultra got lynched EOD yesterday with CP first on wagon.
CP OMGUSing to start the wagon does not look good with Ultra flipping town.
But I've since realised (see previous post) that CP probably can't be scum given his D1 role so can largely ignore this.
What is the point of shading me? You admit I'm town because of my role. This feels slimy. Also I didn't say tweet was certainly town there at all, I said given Alcos hint it's not a good place to look. Alco could be scum tracker thoTwo more people agreeing Tweet is almost certainly town
Curious.
Curious, too.
Do NOT do that for my sake!!Time to iso ultra so I can sheep his ghost lol
this is bigman's thread entrance. a post that came after aurelion's claim. a defense on aurelion and a shade on yoshi. the problem with this is bigman has not :hello.
only read a portion of the thread so far and have to stop there for now. from what I've read don't really agree that the initial post that got Aurelian sussed is alignement indicative. I can see why it might be for an inexperienced player or someone who's worried about being scum. obviously don't know if the latter is the case but the former doesn't seem to be the case. correct me if im wrong. also his thoughts on yoshi align with mine. however, would like to hear why you thought RDK focusing on that post of yours was odd but you didn't have an opinion on his alignement based on it? @Aurelian
I don't think yoshi's weird posts should be ignored because he's new. lots of people play like to play the newbie card as scum and make ignorant posts and its encouraged by teammates. he even volunteered the fact he is new. I can't really think of any town motivation to make up the point he made in terms of saying that RDK was trying to get attention off himself. he even admitted that he hadn't read the posts before that so wh
this post came AFTER the votes reached majority and was bigman's second post. he felt the need to drop this to give himself some credit for the lynch despite not really adding anything on it. matter of fact big man's first post was more leaning into town reading aurelion so this change is unexplained.I'll just catch up at night.
Vote Aurelian
I don't buy the role claim. that role has been used on our site a lot except it just protects or removes protection no matter the alignment of the player. this just seems like its modified to make it as pro town as possible and makes the role easier to use. also maybe it's just me but with that win condition I wouldn't even admit I'm indy. what is the point?
bigman on lethal. no followup on this whatsoever when lethal was a wagon. in fact big man seem to have completely forgot his scum read of lethal as u can see in his reads below and there are no thoughts that can be traced in the thread showing the transitionthought Lethal looked pretty bad when he was sussing Evans from the start but never committed to pushing/voting him. even said he's on the fence on him after focusing so many posts on him.
and that flavour just looks like it was copied and pasted from somewhere lol.
@Black Pegged Dragon how does Poyser being the first to properly push Aurelian change your read on him, or have you not considered that?
I can see where you quoted it but can't see the original post, so can't see the posts of his you're referring to in your case.
bigman sees it important to spend a portion of his day 2 post count discussing the claimed indie rather than find scum or talk about lethal/yoshi who were his previous scum reads. big man has yet to talk about how the aurelion flip progresses his own reads. the entire question is blank busy work anyway because BLD already talked about it previously and big man does not really care to follow up on BLD's answers.defend myself from what? and it's not about defending Poyser, im trying to understand the logic in your scumhunting as you seem to think poyser and lethal are aligned and you went after lethal despite the fact poyser sussed him at a time nobody else was (as far as im aware, I may be wrong here as I have just skimmed a lot of pages) so I want to know if you think he bussed Aurelian when he started the wagon on him and then bussed lethal earlier as well.
agreeing to not liking lethal but again no followup on it with a vote or a direct question to lethal. very safe position to withhold. also the point he mentioned is NAI. lethal could be paraphrasing his role as town or scum.yeah I can agree with this after rereading it. just jumped to copy and paste after I saw a bunch of words that I know lethal doesn't use.
this was a post to ultra. another busy work post from big man. big man himself shared similar sentiments around aurelion so this line of thoughts doesnt come off as genuine to ask someone why they r doing something similar to what u r doing. and ultra replied to this that its the correct move to lynch aurelion if he doesnt claim because it just comes off as him rage quitting and he (ultra) would vote aurelion to give him what he wants. ultra actually ended up voting aurelion at the end too so this entire question is busy worknot sure if you have already addressed this but can you please explain your change in stance on aurelian? you had that long discussion on him not claiming and said that you suspect that he's town but then wanted his claim and voted to lynch him after the refusal
a point that everyone has talked about already. no original contentCP's claim is most likely town. to give that role to scum would just be giving them a provable role but one which goes against their wincon which is lame.
posyer is a claimed indie at this point. BLD have already acknowledged this. BLD though poyser was powerwolfing and BLD himself said multiple times that he is willing to let poyser aside and focus elsewhere starting with lethal. big man's post here comes off as awkwardly preflipping lethal/poyser despite he himself having a sus of lethal. in a sense that big man earlier displayed that he does not like lethal but for some reason he does not like BLD going after lethal even though they share the same read.I haven't liked BPD's play tbh. just scum read poyser from the start off fairly weak reasoning which didn't make much sense to me and seemed to stick to it throughout despite all the things that followed in the game such as poyser starting the lynch on the only flipped scum.
there's this post which says its likely aurelian and posyer aren't a team but he kept pushing him as scum after aurelian flipped. he agreed with poyser on lethal as well but he seemed to want to stick to his scum read on poyser no matter what. this is obviously something i'd accosiate with scum because removing scum reads gives you less content to fake scumhunt with.
i am going to circle back to this after this post but I think it's entirely possible i was jailed n1 and the sk failed a kill on me and the mafia failed their kill elsewherethere were 3 kills last night before the correction. I'm assuming mafia, SK and the vig. we always have SKs in our game so CP would assume there is one. that makes it very likely there is a role that stopped all the kills and it would be very risky for CP to claim that without knowing himself if the factional kill was blocked.
another busy work / lack of content. at this point its clear big man is hyper fixated on this topic and nothing else because it provides for easy content to just discuss about the claimed indie since his alignment is already publicly claimed and mafia has tmi to trust it as truehis win condition involved mafia losing the game? is that not pro town and is that not what he said? (speaking of which it says he leaves the game once they have been taken out, which suggests another faction to me as the game doesn't neccesarily end when mafia are defeated)
but regardless of this you thought he was mafia and this wouldn't change how I feel about your play around him.
another parroted post that adds nothing to the game. big man just says lethal isnt cleared but at the same time isnt a scum buddy with ultra. then just fence sits and takes a very safe position in regards to both of them. doesnt really give me the impression that he wants to solve lethal or ultrait doesn't confirm him but him claiming to hide behind his scumbuddy doesn't make sense as he's caught if lethal flips before him. as lethal isn't confirmed it would just be a high risk low reward play and doesn't make a lot of sense do. this is of course assuming lethal isn't the godfather which he may well be.
big man continues his scum read of yoshi here but hasnt yet talked about it with respect to the aurelion flipTown - RDK, CP, Alco, leaning town on PHEN0M
Scum - BLD, Yoshi, Ultra
this is to ultra. this is very rich considering big man ignored ultra's replies yet continued scum reading him for the sake of scum reading him. and ofcourse still no vote has been droppedso you saw this but didn't see the post I directly quoted in which you asked for people to ask you questions if they suspect you? lol. seems like a disenginious request then.
no idea what the purpose of this was. a post to BLD. also no followup upon after BLD's reply. big man is shading but unable to hold interactions or change his view point in his replies. these arguments r very static and non stimulating. i can hardly see genuine solving attempts in thembut at the beginning of day 2 you said you thought him, lethal and CP are a team. I assume you meant on the same team as aurelian yes?
this was finally bigman's post about yoshi, who he brushed right away by saying "obviously isn't important right now" - why would a townie do this? why wud town!bigman thinks his point on scum!yoshi is *obviously* not important?on Yoshi: this obviously isn't important right now but still wanted to give my thoughts while im here.
he sussed RDK when he pushed Aurelian. when asked why he just responded that he's new which shows awareness that he knew what he said doesn't make sense. when pressed further he just made up that RDK was trying to deflect from himself. I can't understand a town motivation to make that up, newbie or not. the idea that he was just trying to protect Aurelian doesn't really track given that he turned on him shortly after and was more than happy to push him.
I wonder if the original defence of Aurelian was him defending a scumbuddy without enquiring with his teammates first and then he flip flopped when he was told not to defend Aurelian as pressure was starting to form on him. the reason he gave was that Aurelian was being defensive but he was already being defensive in the first place when he was defending him so there was no logical reasoning for the flip flop.
talks to ultra about BLD. shows you how much of a brick wall big man is. he is very one dimensional in his reads. he completely ignores answers given to him yet continues his scum read and repeats the same topics. has been overall very static and does not give any motive that tells me he wants to solve BLD and ultra.I meant before he claimed indie. he said he's not going to claim out of spite or something and then you voted him.
lastly big man just cuts the day short to hammer here. he does not wait for us to wake up and give our final thoughts. big man has been answering ultra like a complete robot with the most one dimensional non stimulating posts i've seen the whole game. there is no reason for a townie to just end it here when he has not been replying to ultra's topics whatsoever. big man just wanted this mislynch so badly and outed himself for it. big man has to yet go over how his scum reads work together in tandem in regards to yoshi and ultra, and he completely drops his read of lethal.think we’re at a bit of an impasse. nothing else is going to happen this phase so we’d just be extending day for the sake of it.
vote ultra
i put more trust in my reads than claims
No but he said he has info on who shot Tweet iirci put more trust in my reads than claims
the reason why i changed from alco to tweet is i atleast want to hear what alco has to claim b4 i shoot him. however i am thinking he is possibly a role tracker and tracked tweet for town cred
i think alco just looks the worst from all the players that entered the game. i would like a claim from him as well
and has dalton claimed? i town read him based on tone and excitement / drive and how overextended he looks but i cannot deny ultra's posts on him were good. i think a claim from dalton is due as well
i read ur posts in tandem with the rest of the game over the night and i think u look better than i had initially thought. im happy to rescind my scum read of u but im really hoping u could have something for us to work with hereHey everyone, I want to start off by apologizing for my absence. For those who don't know I was out in a solo camp this weekend and was MIA during the weekend (had no internet connection). I do remember mentioning it briefly at the early stages of the game I believe, if not then my bad.
Either way I caught up to the thread last night before this DP started and do have some stuff to say. I will be pushing out posts as the day progress and my activity will sky rocket when I am done with my responsibilities for the day.
on who shoot tweet? what?No but he said he has info on who shot Tweet iirc
i also made this post yesterdayalso @Ratchet i am self resolving, in a sense that it takes 1 click of a button at night to confirm my role - which ultimately is not gna tell u about my alignemnt but will atleast verify my role as true. you and the rest of the players, can however glean my alignment from the choice i make when i click that button.
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