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To Aru Majutsu No Index Feats/Discussion/Analysis Thread - Touma's Boogaloo Edition

Astaro

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Aeon doing a guide on how to get into the series. It’s still really easy, the series is just dense and requires a good amount of reading
 

Paxton

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I’m on GT8. Risk 4 isn’t much so far. You got Mary holding her own against Trismegistus already in Risk 4 just fine showing the jump in power isn’t anything notable
I think you might've missed this part (and confused the volumes a bit).


- GT7

Both of them were in Risk 4.
 

Astaro

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@Paxton Literally skipping the entire exchange before that between the two before Good Old Mary went Risk 4, including Mary casually stopping Risk 4 Trismegistus attack



Magic God one-shotting power my ass
 

Paxton

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If the jump in power wasn't notable Mary wouldn't need to activate Risk 4 to begin with
 

Astaro

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She’s easily holding her own while not using Risk 4. Risk 4 for her was just ending the fight quickly and by the time she went Risk 4 the fight was already over with Alice taking down both of them
 

Paxton

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tbh it just seems like a Yonko Commander vs a Yonko sort of situation

There's a huge gap in power, but they don't necessarily instantly lose despite that
 

Astaro

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And neither would even Ollerus lose to either based on these showings.

Again, it’s clarified if not outright retconned later that Transcendents can beat a Magic God with the right circumstances and even then, it’s hypothetical

Their just really strong Mages otherwise
 

Paxton

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literally the only condition is that they activate Risk 4 in time

if that's your idea of "right circumstances" it's a bit misleading
 

Paxton

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Ollerus - somewhat keeps up with an Othinus who can't use any of her strong magic in fear of it backfiring
Risk 4 Transcendents - directly stated by Kamachi himself to be capable of surviving Gungnir and killing Othinus

it's not even remotely close
 

Astaro

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literally the only condition is that they activate Risk 4
Wrong

Risk 4 has never even been stated to beat a Magic God, hell there’s not a single Transcendent whose said this



^ So far the only way a Transcendent by their own statement can beat a Magic God, in this case literally stacking their power over and over well past their standard output presumably to do so
 

Astaro

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Ollerus - somewhat keeps up with an Othinus who can't use any of her strong magic in fear of it backfiring
Risk 4 Transcendents - directly stated by Kamachi himself to be capable of surviving Gungnir and killing Othinus

it's not even remotely close
Citation needed
 

Paxton

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Citation needed


- GT6 afterword

The only reason they died was because they're indecisive and didn't use their "one and only card", i.e. Risk 4.

- NT10

“No more holding back. Risk 4: Releasing the numberless seal – leaving human territory.
Rapidly renewing myself using a trio of great beings.”

“Mama is going to allow herself a risk of 4. Releasing the singular seal – leaving human territory,” said Good, Old Mary. “Show yourself, Tribikos – the tool mama used to contain a complete universe.”
 

Astaro

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Unless every other Secret Chief is >>> Aiwass, their weaker than True Magic Gods and about tied with Othinus
 

Paxton

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Unless every other Secret Chief is >>> Aiwass, their weaker than True Magic Gods and about tied with Othinus
What are you basing this on?

We never see a full power Aiwass manifest in the surface world.

He literally has no anti-feats to speak of at his full power.