Game Elden Ring Mafia

[RDK]

im more concerned at why u specifically know this lol. its not alignment indicative but it probably has something to do with ur role

which begs the question why arent u killed yet?

More bigger fishes to fry

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Not sure where this narrative I jumped on Uktra out of nowhere came from. He defending another player he had no reason to defend. I’m not sure why it’s not suspicious he’s defending a push on another player at a formative point

mate u went from town reading retro to red text telling us to vote her for no reason. ofcourse we will question u. what else u expect? watch and do nothing as u show an inconsistent point of view?

I'm confident Big Man is town and won't be touching that slot for the foreseeable future

has anything changed regarding bigman since then? i think his rune cop easily fits scum and he is ignoring me asking him about his shot on rune cops. i dont see a reason why a rune cop is towny tbh

Bad shot, with Alcos hint we had reason to believe he was legit

who wud u shoot if he had a gun?

can i have ur reads and n1/n3 targets pretty please cp. u r confirmed town right? please work with us like a confirmed town does.

 

[Lethal]

ok lethal if a vig never counter claimed will this idea of urs change?

if your only reason to scum read me is scum!ekko claims vig to bait the real vig out (which is very silly), does the vig not coming out right now make u feel better or worst?

i mean look at the players in the game right now. everyone but yoshi posted and absolutely none of them is going ham at me. this shud be an indication to u that none of them is counter claiming or hinting at counter claiming me. does this makes sense?

- Maybe. But your usage is flawed given how much you were on about Haza so often.
- I have plenty of reasons to scum read you but you ignore them.
- Perfect sense. I guess?

i think i may have lethal a bit frozen on his logic here. not sure if hes scum or not lol. lets see how he comes back with it

Frozen with logic? You’re yet to demonstrate one redeeming town quality. You’re blinded by self-preservation and your own selfish interest. You’ve claimed vig but your usage is illogical - tweet was pseudo confirmed town from Alco’s info yet you shoot there anyway? And you say my logic is frozen.

i submitted

alco > tweet > bigman

bigman came after 7 hours or so from when i submitted tweets name because thats just how much it took me to reread the game and iso people lol

i am putting my head into it now lol

Why Alco? Why Tweet? Why Big man? Haza not even entering your thoughts, or myself for that matter, yet your suspecting us. Evans missing too but you suspect him? Frozen logic.

i think i might have broke lethal earlier lol

shame

and i thought u could be townie yesterday lol

:reigns3

Grasp those straws.

Interesting - with Poyser, Pein & Ratchet both gone you’ve suddenly perked up your activity.

i am going to have to ask everyone to give us a read list that has atleast 4 scum in it

starting with u guys

@Alco @Big Man @RDK @Lethal @Doddsy @Arp Bladstrum

its time to play the game with a lil over easy difficulty my guys

my reads have been posted. You even liked them. I’ll recheck when on pc.

Watcher, tracker, gunsmith and hider

we STACKED with investigation

Yup and dalton could be roletracker tbh. WIFOM suggesting these aren’t all town.

Is anyone vouching for Evans as town right now? Don't think anyone answered me earlier

Wouldn’t say vouching. I’m more null. I need to ISO him again

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

More bigger fishes to fry

shudnt the fish who got their godfrey lynched be the biggest?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Vote Ekkologix
I said I felt bad about his play and lack of convictions aside from RDK right from the early days, we need a full claim here

You are a mighty warrior but you cannot obfuscate your intentions for too long Sir Ekko. Reveal thyself!

i revealed myself. now what? how about u reveal urs!

 

[Lethal]

im more concerned at why u specifically know this lol. its not alignment indicative but it probably has something to do with ur role

which begs the question why arent u killed yet?

You’ve had a bullet and haven’t used it on him. All this angle shooting that keeps incriminating yourself.

 

[RDK]

shudnt the fish who got their godfrey lynched be the biggest?

They could have tried to kill me n1, who knows

Ratchet n2 and n3 makes sense to me. Active and town read much more than me

I'm not surprised at all, u shouldn't be either

Especially coz ur tunnel may well have kept me alive

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Think you're selling a false bill of goods here. They tried to janitor ratchet. If they switched their kill they also would have decided not to janitor OLU, seems unlikely. No way they chose to kill poyser when he was indie and nearly got lynched right before. Doesn't make any sense.

im considering its possible poyser died via his mechanic. we really have no way of telling that but this makes the most sense

meaning the serial killed OLU? kind of weird kill for a serial kilelr

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I'll claim actions later. I'm confirmed so no need to give the info now. Let's see if somebody lies about something today

cool i'll hold u to this! i think ur claim can help us find scum so waiting for it!

 

[Flower]

Is Retrowhatever new? His post seem pretty good and detailed - so I’d like to give him a town read

Random Town read.

I have posted - nothing of consequence though. The game started yesterday while I was at work, and I had after work drinks. Im slowly catching up in drips and drabs now lol

Fluff.

Is this info? I believe he’s town. He’s done nothing to help stop himself being lynched with a slow weak claim and doesn’t really seem like a scum on the ropes.

Observation.

Whether or not you have info matters to me in determining whether or not I vote to lynch him.

No guarantee scum use their execute ASAP either. I was scum about a year ago with a couple of others and it worked out quite fruitful withholding it until LyLo - granted there was a restriction, but we still held onto it further than need be.

This…could be a case of a Bond Villain plan spilling? No clue lol.

Ratchet can be town

Why was this? No explanation given whatsoever.

not really believing Poyser's is anything but pro-town at this juncture. I have no reason believe that he’s getting scum lynched as indy. I also thought it was town like to leave Tweet alone for some of the reasons I suggested and the aforementioned lynch

After Poyser‘s flip this looks bad.

1. Lethal
2. Aurelian
3. Rugrat
4. Phenom
5. Retrolize
6. Ekko
7. Ratchet
8. RDK
9. TPein
10. Poyser
11. CraigPelton
12. One Last Username
13. Big Man
14. Ultra
15. Arp Bladstrum
16. Evans
17. Dalton
18. Yoshi
19. Doddsy
20. Black Legged Dragon
21. Hans Tweetenberg
22. Soulkiller
23. Alco

My current state of play

Just a list without reasons.

I meant to add non-town indy

What…?

Town

???

I’m not a great scum Hunter and there are usually enough directions early on (obviously I won’t let scum dictate play later on). I’ll just find town reads and then follow those guys.

And where has this led you so far?

Not a fan of this TM

???

Didn’t love it is highly ambiguous wording, can you elaborate on why.

???

Probably best to keep stuff like this to yourself.

???

Do we mean a persistent inactive or an actual coaster where he’ll deliberately avoid key phases as scum?

Why was this relevant?

I thought Poyser left Tweet alone after the initial wagon and claim about 12 hours ago

Huh.

Has anyone ever played with SoulKiller before. walls of text as scum with some fairly concrete reads in Phenom and Pein we am hold him accountable for at later junkture

Mentions SK, refuses to elaborate further.

vote retro

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Where‘s your push on Retro now?

Defensive. Scum buddy probably

Weak.

Why do you have a strong town read on him? Since you’re trying to discredit a push on him

???

I’ll disclose when Ultra answers my question

????

The only reason to discredit a push on another player is because you have a strong town read on them. So yes, I will load the question and grill you hard.

This however is a good reason. Haven‘t seen any hard grilling, though.

This is what he said which was similar to my thoughts

What thoughts, though? You barely gave any up to that point.

why are you so adamantly defending another player?

?

Yes. I’m the mafia roleblocker

You probably really are lol.

Good answer

Why?

Seemed a reasonable piece of text but fancied sheeping Tweet as I think he’s town

???

If I’m 100% honest I’d forgotten I said that about Retro in particular , the new players names kind of slip my mind

You didn‘t say a lot about Retro in general tbh.

He didn’t ask me that

Then what did you mean here?

is BPD Haza?

^ are we saying this isn’t trying to discredit me?

I’m not that arsed about lynching Lethal and thought I’d see who bought on Tweet since I was fairly sure he was town

Discrediting what, though? You barely did anything.

He’s claimed VT

I believe CP said he follows good players. I said I just follow my town reads, though I consider him a decent player.

Lethal spent a lot of time tunnelling Evans, I don’t think this is anything I’ve noticed him doing as scum. He’s much more passive in my experience with him.

In terms of cases, scum are more likely to defend it I think. I’d expect him to just a pod mentioning himself and defend themselves whenever his name was brought up if he was scum. Now he’s doing the opposite

Just empty words tbh. Also meta reads are easy to just feign contribution.

No

Because I think he’s town. I’ve given my reasons that I don’t see him tunnelling right out of the bat when he’s a cautious player as scum, and I don’t see him doing the disservice to his team of ignoring a case on him as soon as the game begins

Where did you even give any reasons?

I’ve given my opinion that I think he’s town

Not really, I’ve given a read based on the actions of the thread. How does it make me have too much information for disagreeing on a read

I don’t have strong opinions on an actual target, but I just refuse to vote on a player I believe is town based on principle if I’m honest.

Did Yoshi play on WF/WS

Who’s X?

Vote Ultra

If this guy is scum I’ll say with 102% certainty Retro is toqn

Ultra.

Do you think ultra was buddying you?

2h 22m left of day

100% down to lynch Ultra w/o a claim

Unvote

Vote Ultra

Unvote

I’m around rest of day in case someone hammers without thinking and there’s more discussion to be had

I never claimed I didn’t. Just we can hold out another 40 minutes before deciding action

I’ve no idea what an angle shoot is

CFD?

I don’t believe he’s joking. And it’s a dumb joke to say jow

Interesting

Thoughts on Ultra… or the rest of play?

Happy following CP3. Fwiw I’m still saying Lethal is town, regardless of Ultra’s flip.

vote Ultra

CP presumably thinks they tried to janitor him but the kill was blocked

unless we’re going with the 1/20 chance that Lethal is the GF - I’m very happy to say he’s town.

Though CP and I have had some personal grievances that Im happy to put behind us, it’s worth you guys following him as he’s a v good player.

The bolded is wrong I never said that.

yes I forgot who you were, there’s a lot of names.

not sure where my “strategic” vote was. Lethal is pretty certainly town and I disrupted the wagon. Very clever strategy

you’ve just thrown posts together trying to make a story up. I’ve barely mentioned you anyway

I form town reads and then follow based on that.

I’ve played a lot with Lethal and have a good read of his town play. I don’t think he’s able to replicate that as scum, which is why I determined him to be town.

I gave my views at the time. When there was a big wagon on Tweet, I think I was the first to say he was town (which Alco has somewhat supported).

I was big on Lethal being town and got accused of “derailing” the wagon, so I would argue my thoughts were relevant at the time.

I don’t have innate levels of strategy play or the influence to prevent town lynches sadly

Elaborate on this, I think I’ve missed something.

Why isn’t Lethal 95% town if Ultra flips scum? He isn’t exactly going to clear a teammate. I’m a bit iffy on this reasoning

Ah okay

You presented it as a binary that we either catch scum or we solidify Lethal’s read. I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive, as I very much doubt that Ultra would fake a confirm on a scummate.

This is a fair point lol

The way this ultra wagon has stalled AGAIN after him having a crap unverifiable role is giving me major questions

MORE VOTES ON ULTRA

I refuse to make another post until he’s hammered.

I’m going to break my own rule of refusing to post before Ultra is hammered, but after Ratchetgate it’s worth being mindful that scum almost certainly will have been compensated since it’s basically given us two confirms.

I suggested people follow a confirmed town player who was also supporting a confirmed town player in lynching a player who bungled his way out of a lynch at the last phase with a shaky claim and who’s play had given me questions.

Very easy to play hindsight hero.

I liked Big Man’s case on Yoshi.

Vote Yoshi

A few people have said Big Man makes a good point on Yoshi, I want a claim from him

We don’t use angle shoot as a term on WF or WS. I’m not sure why me posting that the host doesn’t like hiders makes me scummy, if you dislike it - so be it.

Not really bothered about BPD’s case if I’m honest just seems like shoving the blame on a big wagon to who he wants to think is scum. I’ll do a read back when I finish work with some reads and reasons

Not sure where this narrative I jumped on Uktra out of nowhere came from. He defending another player he had no reason to defend. I’m not sure why it’s not suspicious he’s defending a push on another player at a formative point

Might be fair game on the rest tbh

Nothing massively dirty about it, we did it on the old site.

find it funny you’re trying to use it to spin a narrative on my alignment

Fwiw I’m just defending myself as I don’t want a wagon while I’m working, I want to give some deeper thoughts later but I’m time constrained

If I’m 100% honest Ultra’s rude attitude towards me was irritating so was pretty glad to help fuck him over when he said “I’d do nothing” was part of it lol.

Following CP the following day was 100% the right play the following day though, hindsight heroes can piss off

PoE isn’t kind to big Man. I’m not sure on him, but it was a good point regardless

Out for dinner can’t read back until 10ish

1. Lethal - I’ve been fairly sure since the beginning he was town, which is part of why I was happy to help halt his lynch. Pretty glad to say he was then regardless of the hider stuff but that just crystallises things.

3. Rugrat - Town town town

4. Phenom - Was a bit iffy on some of his reasons on the Ultra wagon, I know I relented slightly but don’t think part of the reasoning for a 1 shot hider being lynched is to ratify another player’s role.

6. Ekko - I believe he’s the vig chiefly for having a confirmed kill and secondly as his thought process regarding Tweet being scum made sense

8. RDK - think he’s town. He’s been super active and last time I played he told his team to bus him.

11. CraigPelton - Town. He also has a protective role which would make sense since scum will have two in the form of a roleblocker and the flipped BG.

13. Big Man - Haven’t noticed much either way. Made a good point on Yoshi, but also had a fair point on Ultra and before that he was sussing Lethal. Not disagreeing with the points obviously but Big Man has the ability to generate good thoughts either way. Pretty on the fence atm.

16. Evans - posts have been fine and made sense but haven’t done a deep dive. Lean town.

17. Dalton - I haven’t noticed him, but I hate hate hate hate being accused in part of a wagon he possibly would have been on. In fairness I don’t see a scum player sussing CP at the star of day. CP has more influence than him and is “confirmed”

18. Yoshi - Away for too long but has some ‘splaining to do

19. Doddsy - He does seem quite confused and like town Doddsy who is a lot less slick and organised than scum Doddsy.

23. Alco - GrLiam has a hard on for gunsmiths. He loves them as much as he loves not shagging, Ruben Neves or mentioning he does BJJ.

The rest of the players I can’t think of much content for if I’m honest and the game is a lot for my dyslexic brain to read and recall as admittedly I have skimmed parts. 75 pages when I first checked the thread :hogansun:

Stopped replying to every post, but generally Rugrat is the embodiment of the Refuses to elaborate further meme this game. Most posts are fluff or just words which don‘t really contribute to anything, so basically CWAC or side commentary. No real game solving or even attempts at that from this slot. Don‘t really feel a sinister agenda here either. For somebody who claims he‘s gonna grill people hard, he never did any grilling, though, so he‘s inconsistent as well. Scum lean.

 

[Flower]

I think I need to ISO RDK in batches. Too many posts.

 

[The X]

Uzukage Destroya's Rainbow Reads!
UPDATE

Town
Black Legged Dragon - Everyone needs to trust this guy and I promise he will bring you to nirvana.
Craig - Not much more to say here. I believe his claim now.
Ultra - Ultra being here might surprise people, but I just don't see him flipping scum. If he does, that's fine and I understand that I'll probably be one of the names as a suggested partner. If he flips scum, sad for me, but happy for town.
Ekko - I REALLY just want Ekko to be town here. I do think that there were parts of his defense of Fang that seemed townie to me. I can see his point of view with RDK and do feel he believes it is true.
Retrolize - This is how I've seen her in every town game and I have no reason not to believe she's town here.
Dalton - Better D3 that helped me read him a bit more town. Has a claim.
Yoshi - If he's scum, kudos for playing dumb. Not sure if Fang is flailing scum, he tries to dump pressure on his newbie scum partner and vote and pressure Yoshi.
Arp Bladstrum - Can't see any scum motivation here. Pretty transparent. Don't think he plays around with the PR if scum.
Soulkiller - Thought his play around Fang and his reads list were genuine. Don't really have reason to doubt Soul.



Hopefully Town
These are players I read (or want to read) as town, but have paranoia around.

Evans - I've been reading him town since D1, but I do think his play has a lot to be desired of. Not really familiar with this player at all so he could just be straight up wolf, but I don't think he is? Just enough motivation to get things does as scum, it feels.
Phenom - I think there's enough for me to like, but there's also wiggle room to go the other way. Not a fan of how he wants Ultra without much explanation. Not sure where his reads are.
Big Man - I think this slot is town? Read over D1 posts and there was nothing alarming. Still nothing to really worry about, honestly. Probably just a less active town slot.
Doddsy - I hate that around the time Lethal came back, there were a couple moments where I thought these two could be mates. I think there's some decent thought process there? Even if I didn't like his vote on me. So he's definitely on the fence here.


Wolf
Alco - Alco I think has potential to be a tricky wolf here. Has had some good takes but not really much scum hunting. Not sure where their reads are. Does seem a bit casual with going with the flow.
RDK - I initially thought that RDK was town for his interaction with Fang. But I did reread it again and can see RDK letting off the gas a bit and then voting for Tweet. I think he's been absent since then and I hate that Lethal gave the weapon to him. Day phases are getting productively lower effort.
Rugrat - Really nothing to like from this slot. Don't think he's been productive or active at scum hunting. Has made some posts that are unhelpful or just don't make sense. Seems to be casual where he votes.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Mafia did shoot Ratchet, but he got jailkept by CP.

the confidence is this statement is what im having trouble with. we shudnt really know that 100%

maybe 90%

@Ekkologix

Why would you shoot Alco and Tweet over your stronger scum reads?

idk if i replied to this already but its because rdk was very vouched in compared to tweet/bigman/alco who r also among my scum reads so i dont see why not lol.

Retrolize, forgive my impertinence but why would you ask an opinion of a player that is functionally confirmed? Surely BPD has only one possible answer to give?

Somewhat of an old horse to beat, a warrior of your caliber must have sound reasoning to do so

whats wrong with asking opinions of confirmed players or opinions about them lol?

 

[The X]

I would say these are now in order.

 

[The X]

I left Ultra there on purpose. He's technically not in order.

 

[Flower]

I left Ultra there on purpose. He's technically not in order.

*puts gun she wanted to aim at you for that “read“ back into her bag*.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

So let's be lazy for a second, what strong reasons to people have for reading Evans town?

none really. no strong reason to read town

Has Soulkiller really not posted since Friday or is the search here just buggy?

surely u can have better posts than this, confirmed town CP. u have to carry the town!!!

So yeah I'm thinking Mafia were pretty content to sit back and let us go after each other. Not feeling BPD or Ekko as mafia. Either could be SK but not hunting indies rn, we need to hit Mafia

thats more like it!!

now we need a dean certified read list pretty please!!

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Time to iso ultra so I can sheep his ghost lol

i think its also fruitful to iso tweets wagon day 1. it was a direct counter wagon to aurelion

 

[PHEN0M]

What’s up everyone?

 

[Lethal]

the confidence is this statement is what im having trouble with. we shudnt really know that 100%

maybe 90%


idk if i replied to this already but its because rdk was very vouched in compared to tweet/bigman/alco who r also among my scum reads so i dont see why not lol.


whats wrong with asking opinions of confirmed players or opinions about them lol?

Confidence cos of the host slip in the write up. So much angle shooting