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Game Elden Ring Mafia

The X

Marvelous
Let's start things with DP2 for things were going back and forth alot during this DP.

The first major wagon that developed was on Lethal. Both Ultra and BPD made some good cases on the guy which lead him to being the major wagon. That was until ratchet stepped in and made a case against Ultra and mustered an wagon on the guy forcing Ultra to out his claim. That's when things once again picked up and votes switched to Poyser.

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Tweet 2 - Alco, RDK
Lethal 9 - BLD, Evans, TPein, Retro, Ultra, Soulkiller, Ekko, Yoshi, OLU
BLD 4 - Poyser, CP, Tweet, Doddsy
Retro 1 - Rugrat
Ekko 1 - Phenom

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Tweet 1 - RDK
Lethal 8 - BLD, TPein, Retro, Ultra, Soulkiller, Ekko, Yoshi, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ekko 1 - Phenom
Ultra 6 - Lethal, Arp, Rugrat, Tweet, Evans, Poyser


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Lethal 6 - BLD, TPein, Ultra, Soulkiller, Ekko, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ultra 9 - Lethal, Arp, Rugrat, Tweet, Evans, Poyser, Ratchet, RDK, Yoshi

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Lethal 3 - Soulkiller, Ekko, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ultra 5 - Lethal, RDK, Alco, Ratchet, Poyser
Tpein 1 - Dalton
Ekko 2 - Evans, Tweet
Poyser 8 - Phenom, Ultra, BLD, Tpein, Arp, Yoshi, Rugrat, Evans

Look at the DP voting patterns, It will help me digest players intentions and give us better understanding of their agenda. Especially knowing what we know now. Before I jump into this I would just say from the get go. According to Ultra information, and the development surrounding Ratchet flip that both Lethal and CP are considerably more townie than the rest of the players. Letha due to Ultra claim and CP due to him apparently taking responsibility of saving ratchet (who was botched??? apparently he was supposed to die but he didn't die???) and no one but him claimed to saving ratchet and no one cc'ed such claim. There is a world where he might be pulling a 5000 IQ move but I fear it's not worth spending too much energy on unless we are in end game and the supposedly 'doctor' is still alive. It's honestly still weird to me now how he is still alive? for doctor is one of the most strong roles if played right, but scum seems to have no interest in him. Either way, we can speculate and run through this rabbit hole later down in the game. For he is not priority right now and I am willing to believe his position for now.

The reads will develope more as I go through DP3. But I think it's good to develop and see how these reads progress as I move forward with the thread.

Evan voted for Lethal believing there is a good chance he is scum, just to switch it to Ultra after ratchet making a case on the guy for then to switch it to Poyser during the end of the DP. This hip hopping from one wagon to another can be actually townie for townies have less knowledge and are more likely to hip hop. However, for some reason I really am struggling to get a clear read on the guy. I do plan to make a detailed read on him individually alone later tonight when I am free. Will determine where he stands, he striked me as a player who is blending really well if he is scum. He had various moments in the game where he was really present and then no presence at all for having strong presence again.

BLD, made a good case and I find it real hard to view him as scum. Reason why I placed my vote on Lethal because he was one of my stronger town reads and having very low time from my end. I did follow the lethal wagon mostly cause I trusted BLD more than others. Taking into account ultra case on lethal as well made it a good place to put use of my vote instead of being wasted. Alco recently claimed he has reasons to believe he is townie? which further puts him in better spot. But I need to see why Alco believes he is townie. One way I was looking at it to get even better read on the guy is to look at his interaction with CP. Knowing what we know now it's very possible this is a TvT interaction. This obviously will be revaluated if both CP and BPD are alive in end game. For at that point I do believe there might be scum there. For now, he can sit comfortably in my townie lean list.

Yoshi, this is a player I found hard to get a read on due to how programmatic his posts were. But now I have a feeling he might indeed be scum. He was very willingly open to claim whenever any minor pressure comes his way. Fang also was pushing him hard, I do have a theory here is that if Fang wanted to get better standing with the players he would try and bus one of his team mates (in yoshi) to better his position in the game. Very possible now that I see it right now. Also, Yoshi is very easily persuaded to switch wagons as you can see from his vote tracking. Voted for Lethal > Ultra > and then switched to Poyser. Him being easily persuaded tbh does strike me a bit townie, but I would say he is null with leaning him more to the scum side.

Doddsy, I thought his catching up to the thread honestly looked good? like he was paying attention and was trying to scum hunt. He def looked better than in DP1. One thing that makes me pause is how he kept his vote on BPD the entire time during the DP2 and did not waver or move his vote anywhere else. This tells me he was content with keeping the game stale and not flip any player. This at handsight does look bad on him tbh. This slot will develope more reading wise as I go through DP3. There is a decent chance doddsy might be scum here.

Phenom, I thought phenom play was actually decent DP2 to be honest. I liked when he saw that no wagon is moving forward that he instead went for poyser (harmful indie) which is a very logical move as townie tbh, if memory serves me right he was the first one to switch to poyser when he evaluated the situation in both lethal and ultra wagons are fruitless. Which he does get credit for. His vote patterns actually was at Ekko and then Poyser. I am not sure if he voted Ultra or Lethal at any stage? memory tells me yes???? Need to confirm. His activity were always on the lower side of things tho which does not help his case. (But again I can't really say shit about activity as I been MIA during the weekend lol) For now, I'll put him as townie lean and see how he progress in DP3.

Retro, is a player I town read in the beginning, due to the nature of how this girl play the game and her excessive overthinking scenario and from personal experience playing with her. However, I am not fan of how she voted for lethal then did not vote for anyone after that??? odd thing to do as townie and honestly made me pause for a second. I know she claimed something in DP3 so I guess i will put more focus on this slot in my next post going through DP3.

Rugrat, interesting slot. Dude came gun blazing trying to axe Retro providing little to no explanation and when asked for reason he with hold from answering waiting for someone else to reply. I think he was talking to Ultra? either way not sure what to make of that move. However though, he stated that he is willing to lynch Ultra without a claim. This vote on ultra felt opportunistic dude wanted to off the dude, and yet he switched his vote away from Ultra to Poyser. This tells me that the guy was full of shit and was all an act towards Ultra spot. Good chance he might be scum.

Ekko, I didn't like how ekko positioned himself around Fang slot. I said there is 50/50 chance he would do that as scum or townie and I interacted with him briefly in DP2 and got more scum vibes from him for how dismissive he was for certain events and kinda painted things to fit his own agenda. He voted for Lethal > Phenom > Lethal. Ekko position changes alot based on the information that surfaced today so I will be talking more details about him in my future reads as I progress through the days.

Arp avoided voting for Lethal and went straight to Ultra for him to change it to Poyser. But he is still one of the players I actually strong town read simply based of his composure. If this guy flips scum then kudos to him tbh. He improved alot since last time I played with him.

Dalton, this is a player I will focus more on read wise as I progress due to the information that presented itself recently. But I do not like dalton this DP. He had no use of his vote for he voted T-Pein a townie and was not really present. I already had a scum lean on this spot due to how he tried hard to defend Fang in DP1, and he does not improve in my eyes moving into DP2.

RDK is my first strong town read actually, but that dwindled as the game progressed. I really didn't like his vote on tweet. Trying to switch the wagon from fang to tweet and even pursued tweet even more during DP2 which we know is townie now. This made his strong impression he made on me fall to be honest. He did switch to Ultra but really wishy washy push on tweet. Moved down from town lean to null as end of DP2.

Alco, is a player who made reasonable thoughts in DP1 I liked his comments in DP1 felt very reasonable and always provided reasons for his thought process which I thought looked good. Wasn't a fan of that tweet push, and is blending well same as evan if he is scum. There are information recently merging so this is a slot I will focus more on in my reads as I progress through the DP's. He voted for tweet and then switched to Ultra. As of DP2 null to slight town lean simply due to the content he provided in DP1 and 2 which I remember nodding to while reading his posts.


Now, time to move on and revaluate DP3 which I believe have alot of juicy content.
srry bb i did d2 wagonmics better already
 

Flower

No more tears left to cry...
V.I.P. Member
I don‘t understand why Ultra was lynched at all tbh. The guy even had his volume tell and everything. But guess that‘s not important now.
 

PHEN0M

GOATN0M
please share ur reads with us when u r done looking. id like if u can list atleast 4 players u have as scum


so u read this and still suggest yoshi is the lynch? lol

I haven’t read at all so can’t confidently give you any scum reads my man. I’m sorry.
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
V.I.P. Member
Think something else saved him n2 otherwise someone else would have been janitored ???

Unless whoever he drove himself with had protection (would likely be scum)

Maybe there's clues to who Ratchet drove
the jail works before busdrive i blive so cp must've stopped the drive all togehter
 

PHEN0M

GOATN0M
I want to say you’re scum and aligned with Aurelian as that’s the read I came out of that targeted read back with but I’m sure something has likely transpired or you’ve claimed where you’re probably not scum, feel free to let me know.
 

SoulKiller

The Alpha and The Omega
@Lethal who did you give your item to?
starts DP3 by questioning lethal here.

Do we still go for a lynch on Ultra to confirm this?

No need to rush it now, something to consider for EOD if there’s no damning wagon.
Checks with ratchet to see if it's okay to pursue Ultra here but then also suggest that there is no need to rush and would vote for Ultra if there is no damning wagon besides him.

He goes back and forth with ekko a bit by the time Evan votes for Ultra eventually.

@Ratchet have those reads changed in anyway since the results from night?
@Ratchet What are your thoughts on Lethal potentially being a Godfather as raised by Ultra? Do you think this is unlikely as you say he’s pretty much confirmed?

I’m in work so ISOing is hard but what was your stance on Lethal during his wagon when he was at 8/9?
Goes back and interact with ratchet, kinda feel like he is relying abit too much on the guy?

Also, the more I re-read Ekkos posts this day phase, the more scummy they feel.

Trying to shade me for wanting to lynch Lethal during the phase he was reacting emotionally and saying he was going to give up when I was scum reading him is very weird.

He mentions that ekko is getting scummier in his radar but I don't see him voting for the guy. Feels fake due to the fact it's all talk but no bite.


But you said you’d still be willing to vote to lynch Ultra today.




Why would you vote to lynch Ultra if you’re confident in saying Lethal is confirmed? Unless you know already that they’re both town?
Goes back and engage with ratchet here keep asking him about his opinion about ultra lynch and lethal situation. Not sure I am liking this constant engagment with ratchet tbh, feels it's trying too much relyin on the guy and kinda trying to move forward according to what ratchet thinks, can be seen as pocketed attempt to be on ratchet good side.

Okay but you just said you think there’s a good chance Ultra is still scum.

Yet you confirmed Lethal here:


This makes more sense to me

Further engages with the guy until things finally clicks for him.

vote Ultra
Goes ahead and votes for Ultra when he initially started he will only vote for Ultra if only there is no other damning wagon going on and stated that there is no need to rush. But in mere 7 pages apparently that's not the case and hopped into Ultra wagon. His earlier posts does not add up and felt like he just wanted to hop into the wagon instead of going for a scum read he mentioned at this time in ekko.

Does not look good on him, I will make more posts regarding this slot as I am finding it difficult to get read and do more elaborate ISO. But wanted to see how he specifically handled Ultra slot beginning of DP3.


I feel like ultra wagon 100% has scum in it. Felt opportunistic as fuck.
 

The X

Marvelous
how does it feel being cleared as town
Honestly, I don't even feel like it has changed my attitude that much because I think Alco is scummy and if he flips wolf, his check on me will be in question. Still keeping my foot on the pedal here because I think town is a long way away from winning this.
 

The X

Marvelous
Oh i asked that because you reacted to two of my posts during night negatively and it kind of stung to be called a clown when ya can’t post if I’m being honest lmao
I think I was handing out clown reactions to those who called Ultra scum. Sorry bb.

But I do need more from you this game. I want to say you're town, but there's not enough there yet. What can you offer?
 

The X

Marvelous
Also I think this is a big day for CP here. He's lost his tunnels of me and Ekko and Ultra is dead. Where does he go now? He's been confirmed for a bit now and I feel he's stepped off the pedal instead of slamming through a wall with the pedal to the metal!
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
V.I.P. Member
there is a theory bigman culted RDK and arp but man that wud be gg for town :trinny

i can totally see the neighborizer as a scum role. specially with a rune cop
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
V.I.P. Member
thing is why wud bigman claim the rune cop in that scenario. he could just claim neighborizer

i just cant see why a rune cop helps town here

could be intentional fukery by gram lol
 

The X

Marvelous
starts DP3 by questioning lethal here.


Checks with ratchet to see if it's okay to pursue Ultra here but then also suggest that there is no need to rush and would vote for Ultra if there is no damning wagon besides him.

He goes back and forth with ekko a bit by the time Evan votes for Ultra eventually.



Goes back and interact with ratchet, kinda feel like he is relying abit too much on the guy?



He mentions that ekko is getting scummier in his radar but I don't see him voting for the guy. Feels fake due to the fact it's all talk but no bite.



Goes back and engage with ratchet here keep asking him about his opinion about ultra lynch and lethal situation. Not sure I am liking this constant engagment with ratchet tbh, feels it's trying too much relyin on the guy and kinda trying to move forward according to what ratchet thinks, can be seen as pocketed attempt to be on ratchet good side.






Further engages with the guy until things finally clicks for him.


Goes ahead and votes for Ultra when he initially started he will only vote for Ultra if only there is no other damning wagon going on and stated that there is no need to rush. But in mere 7 pages apparently that's not the case and hopped into Ultra wagon. His earlier posts does not add up and felt like he just wanted to hop into the wagon instead of going for a scum read he mentioned at this time in ekko.

Does not look good on him, I will make more posts regarding this slot as I am finding it difficult to get read and do more elaborate ISO. But wanted to see how he specifically handled Ultra slot beginning of DP3.


I feel like ultra wagon 100% has scum in it. Felt opportunistic as fuck.
wtf is the last line? Ultra had 11/12 votes on him D2, and got lynched with 11/11 D3. You fucking think it was all townies on those mislynches?
 
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