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Game Death Note Mafia

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Tempest

Leprous Monarch
just read the start of day 2 again

my opinion on flower is not a reflexive distancing attempt based on ultra voting me is where I’ll leave it
Of course you would say that! You do kind of give me the vibes of having given up tho which is more your town MO
 

Grammaton

Consigliere
Moderator
That would suggest an incredibly passive scum team tho which again doesn’t really jive with going out of their way to stop his lynch

where are you at on BPD now anyway?

if I speak I am in trouble but he’s back in play

I don’t think they actively tried to stop his lynch, I just don’t think they cared
 

Poyser

Moderator
Moderator
if I speak I am in trouble but he’s back in play

I don’t think they actively tried to stop his lynch, I just don’t think they cared
Yeah this is what I’m arguing tho lol, BPD read him town by way of them actively holding up the lynch that’s what I’m saying. I’m not arguing that they cared too much one way or the other

no point in repeating it tho, seems like nobody else agrees but I find it a weird as fuck reason to flip a scum read to town
 

Flower

No more tears left to cry...
V.I.P. Member
The reason I think Poyser is just Town is because it requires a huge lack of logic to assume he‘s scum.

He initially called Lethal scum, just to then call him Town. Then he prevented the Lethal lynch D1. Then he wanted him lynched again D2 and pushed through.

If scum didn‘t kill him N1 intentionally, don‘t you think this implies they wanted Lethal alive to serve as a distraction? Then why push him D2 and risk his neck for D3 when he could have just defended him and gotten me lynched D2 and Lethal would yet again be a distraction D3? Makes no sense to me tbh.
 

Evans

Acclaimed
The Town win condition is, as follows - "Town w/Lynchpin - Eliminate all threats to the town, with at least one of L Lawliet ("L") and Nate River ("N") surviving the game. In the event that both L and N are killed or lynched, the Town will automatically lose the game."

I mean, scum win the game if they eliminate only two players.

We’ve had no night kills.

The investigation angle makes a lot of sense, no?
 

Grammaton

Consigliere
Moderator
Like that’s a strange thing to say

it’s still 7 to lynch and no one wants to lynch me now who didn’t want to day 1?

it’s just tpein and other guys who don’t read, what’s the issue?
 

Evans

Acclaimed
Thinking about it: Scum surely would want to wrap up and take as much time on lynches and alternative directions for as many claims as possible.

Then they can narrow their search for L and N
 

Poyser

Moderator
Moderator
I mean, scum win the game if they eliminate only two players.

We’ve had no night kills.

The investigation angle makes a lot of sense, no?
Who’s saying they don’t have investigation lol? Why are you wasting your time on this
 

Flower

No more tears left to cry...
V.I.P. Member
Thinking about it: Scum surely would want to wrap up and take as much time on lynches and alternative directions for as many claims as possible.

Then they can narrow their search for L and N
Then what about Ekko and him having like 9 scum reads?
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
Moderator
Ok but how has lethal being no lynched on D1 effected that at all? If they didn’t “purposely hold up” the lynch on D1, they could have easily got 1-2 more claims on D2 and maybe a further mislynch and they’d be even further along lol

saying no lynching him D1 has obviously benefited them is blatantly false. MAYBE it benefited them, but you can’t say it’s obvious in the slightest. I’d say it’s way more likely they’d have made more progress if the D1 lynch had happened

If you are making assumptions about what scum would/wouldn't do in that situation - (correct me if I'm wrong). I think the only player to backtrack from Lethal and attempt to wagon another player was Flower, who I called out for that.
 

Grammaton

Consigliere
Moderator
So I’ll ask flower again, why are you voting me?

my intuition is that you want to be able to sell it as believing ultra had info - you obviously won’t admit to that now which is unfortunate but needs must

he obviously doesn’t but I want you to commit to something more than ‘seeing where the wagon goes’
 

Poyser

Moderator
Moderator
If you are making assumptions about what scum would/wouldn't do in that situation - (correct me if I'm wrong). I think the only player to backtrack from Lethal and attempt to wagon another player was Flower, who I called out for that.
The only assumption I’m making is that mafia players specifically wouldn’t have actively gone out of their way to purposely stop a town lethal from getting lynched. BPD assumes they did and went from reading lethal scum to reading him town based on it. Considering he approached lethal the exact same on D1 as he did in the last game where he refused to drop it even after he was hider cleared AND the godfather flipped then I’m obviously having a hard time believing he dropped it based on such flimsy reasoning
 

Flower

No more tears left to cry...
V.I.P. Member
So I’ll ask flower again, why are you voting me?

my intuition is that you want to be able to sell it as believing ultra had info - you obviously won’t admit to that now which is unfortunate but needs must

he obviously doesn’t but I want you to commit to something more than ‘seeing where the wagon goes’
Let me ask you this. If a person and you seemingly agree on something for a while, but then you find your views differing vastly at some point, does that not make you curious?
 

Poyser

Moderator
Moderator
anyway I’ve said it lots of times, but I do encourage you all to ISO big man (it won’t take long) and look at his play around lethal on D2

his play around him on D1 was pretty awkward as well, but I don’t believe his reason for reading lethal Town made any sense and I’m pretty sure that’s the only read he has given so far this game
 

Grammaton

Consigliere
Moderator
Let me ask you this. If a person and you seemingly agree on something for a while, but then you find your views differing vastly at some point, does that not make you curious?

curious yes

suspicious? Not automatically

like considering you’re suddenly so suspicious, shouldn’t you be grilling me here?
 
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