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Tempest

Leprous Monarch
also I don't think I ever said you were scum or anything like that, don't ping me by getting weirdly defensive now that I finally got you to go this far
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
go through my posts @ you today ultra I was clearly trying to get you to do stuff, not trying to shade you or lynch you
 

The X

Marvelous
Yeah this is what I’m arguing tho lol, BPD read him town by way of them actively holding up the lynch that’s what I’m saying. I’m not arguing that they cared too much one way or the other

no point in repeating it tho, seems like nobody else agrees but I find it a weird as fuck reason to flip a scum read to town
I better comment on this because you've gotten things wrong and seem to want to try and throw suss on me for 180ing on Lethal (just like you used Lethal 180ing on Tpein to suss him). I don't know if scum purposely held up the Lethal D1 wagon by dissuasion or offering other names, however, I think scum clearly were fine with no lynching D1. With what happened D2 around Lethal, I think that my theory holds credence.

Now, the reason I 180'd on Lethal because I have always thought there was a big brain play going on this game. I think I have the plot right, but I don't have the players right quite yet. I saw that town had the opportunity to hammer Lethal for a long time and just fucking didn't. That made me believe that Lethal was potentially just being used as a setup. And while I didn't think Lethal's defense against my case was all that strong, he at least put time and effort into it and that made me think he really was trying to prove himself. So yeah, I didn't feel like Lethal was the best way to go D2 anymore. It's also funny because reading D2 after EOD, I still wouldn't have voted Lethal there. I thought his emotional response here was even worse than in Elden Ring and I was told that Lethal was in typical town meta because of that. While, he leans harder into it this game but then somehow people just say he's scum and lynch him anyway. I also understood that I was wrong about Lethal in Elden Ring so I wanted to be more cautious around his slot this game. So N1 I adjusted my thinking and that's what you saw on D2. Funny how if I tunnel Lethal, I'm damned, but if I back off Lethal and change my mind, I'm also damned. Seems like my game and reactions are really being held to a certain standard this game.
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
V.I.P. Member
Lethal 3 - Soulkiller, Ekko, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ultra 5 - Lethal, RDK, Alco, Ratchet, Poyser
Tpein 1 - Dalton
Ekko 2 - Evans, Tweet
Poyser 8 - Phenom, Ultra, BLD, Tpein, Arp, Yoshi, Rugrat, Evans

day 2 in elden ring

literally only one mafia on the main wagon. no lynching CLEARLY favorable for scum no matter how u spin it

big man / gram proposing no lynch is scummy by default, when we have no indication of how the setup is
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
Lethal 3 - Soulkiller, Ekko, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ultra 5 - Lethal, RDK, Alco, Ratchet, Poyser
Tpein 1 - Dalton
Ekko 2 - Evans, Tweet
Poyser 8 - Phenom, Ultra, BLD, Tpein, Arp, Yoshi, Rugrat, Evans

day 2 in elden ring

literally only one mafia on the main wagon. no lynching CLEARLY favorable for scum no matter how u spin it

big man / gram proposing no lynch is scummy by default, when we have no indication of how the setup is
idk big man makes so few posts and is an intelligent player, idk why he'd bother to make one of those posts openly advocating for a no lynch. especially if he's scum and (assuming we're generally right with our setup speculation) knows that anyone advocating no lynch is going to look worse and worse as the game goes on.
 

Psychic

Yennefer
idc about lynchpin hints, scum will do that under pressure every time

only people who wouldn't are town
In a game where we lose if the lynchpin is lynch, we kinda have to claim lynchpin if we are lynchpin. there's literally no going around that. You are back on my scumlist.
Yes Psychic. I claimed Light because I am Light. You got me. GG.
Ahahaha. I know what you're doing Ultra, you're playing mind games with me. Pretending to do these weak scumhunts to act like you're actually scumhunting. But I see when you're actually scumhunting and you put in way more effort. I have no doubt you're actually Light. I know you say it in jest because you think too highly of your skills to blend in and look townie. But you're not fooling me.
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
V.I.P. Member
Look at the shit show that was D2. There's your reason for not killing Lethal N1. Why waste resources on that if you're scum?
Delaying Lethal's flip has obviously benefitted mafia here. He was the best distraction you could ask for, I would certainly assume mafia would take an opportunity for a no lynch there rather than get his town flip and face implication and higher possibility for a vote the following day.

If X his scum, his argument probably carries the implication that nobody did this. Do you believe that?
i didnt see it this way. makes a lot of sense
downside is if mafia was on the wagon and town no lynched it still lol
we r looking at a team of 2 most likely

Should've helped me get tiara lynched earlier, going after her now after ultras vote on you makes it seem like you wanna make her look good after your flip
so u scum read gram? he town read flowa and now thinks shes scummy after the flip. why does this make him look bad for u?

he says that me defending people is a scum tell of me.
Someone said this when I was trying to not get psychic lynched by Poyser.
I think it was Poyser who said it.
i said it. from breaking bad game u defended and buddied town flowa

Disagree completely. Mafia wasted 2 day phases getting out a player that had already claimed. They’ve failed to make a single kill. The game hasn’t really advanced in their favour. How has it benefited them exactly?
I don't think they failed, they intentionally holstered. its safe to assume they have been investigating players at night and will drop a double kill in one go to win the game probably
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
Moderator
In a game where we lose if the lynchpin is lynch, we kinda have to claim lynchpin if we are lynchpin. there's literally no going around that. You are back on my scumlist.

Ahahaha. I know what you're doing Ultra, you're playing mind games with me. Pretending to do these weak scumhunts to act like you're actually scumhunting. But I see when you're actually scumhunting and you put in way more effort. I have no doubt you're actually Light. I know you say it in jest because you think too highly of your skills to blend in and look townie. But you're not fooling me.

Wdym I haven't put in effort? I'm casing the fuck out of these townies.
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
Except this isn‘t above his thoughts, but how your scum read approached said Townie.

Some questions you should ask yourself:

Did Tiara try pocketing Lethal?
Was there potential TMI?
Does her behaviour add up from a Town pov?
Does her explanation make sense?
What is the play here if scum?
Can the play come from Town as well?

it did seem like you had a bit TMI that lethal was town especially once players who have played with him a lot longer than you have became certain he was scum. at which point you voted him not because you thought they might be right but because "it'll be best for the game to get rid of him here", which implies you still thought he was town. scum certainly got good mileage out of lethal so I'm not going to call you town for not wanting to drag that out to a third day phase. what bothers me is you don't seem to really consider that poyser/odo may be right even though again they have a ton more experience with lethal and they both flipped from "he's town" to "he's obviously scum" rather quickly. you also come away saying odo looks better after the town flip while sussing him for saying lethal is 95% scum. but Odo going from "he's town" to "he's scum" was his entire progression d2, so how does he look better overall? you should have come away with the opposite conclusion.
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
V.I.P. Member
It does seem like TMI to be fair. I can see how it would benefit them if the setup is a certain way, but I don't know that it is that way. It's a big assumption to be basing play around
its not tmi cp. its wise for ppl to make the assumptions based on what could be worst case scenario

mafia did not kill

its safe to assume they got something going. a reason for holstering. and that reason is better than killing
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
V.I.P. Member
Anyway Poyser really the only prior you need to believe X's perspective was town was that mafia avoid staying on wagons they know are going to flip town. So without getting into the weeds, I find that case poor
this depends on when X's vote was btw

if X voted lethal very early on, he wouldn't be able to leave the wagon by EoD without looking sus as sht

can sm1 fact check when X voted lethal?
 
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