Game Death Note Mafia

[Emil]

Like, Lethal of all players have somehow improved so much in his scum game, in so little time, to fool Poyser for two days only for that to change when Lethal completely lost his emotional rationale? I don't buy it. Poyser has not wanted to push shit all game.

ur making good posts vs poyser. what i dislike the most is him not achieving a lynch day 1

 

[Big Man]

I didn't even read lethal town lol, I guess that makes it 0 reads I gave! I guess me not hammering might have given the impression that I read him town but I didn't read him either way and thought a no lynch would be better than a mislynch at the time but I think that's wrong now.

you scum reading lethal because of the change in read pinged me because of the comments you made when I brought up him changing his read on ultra. it's a bit awkward now because I was going to argue your points further but I didn't end up getting a chance and now he's flipped. you say the situations aren't the same because he tried to explain the change this time and it didn't make sense but it literally doesn't matter if he tried to explain it or not.

just going to come back to this after I'm caught up because the explanation is confusing when I try to explain it and it's easier to just provide context with a multiquote lol.

I think it's way too early to give reads of any strength right now, the game's just been born. I mean I'm gonna think there's something suss on that Odo wagon and the constant discussion around my Dragon vote, so, yeah, I'd generously give a scum lean to Ultra for keeping it going.

Yeah I saw that and replied. I read that exchange wrong then. I still think he's bitten on something that didn't need biting - that said, it's silly of me to shade him for that when I'm biting on him for biting.

Nutshell - Ultra's back to null for me. I was barking up the wrong tree.

Also gonna +1 you for this.

lethal initially scum reads ultra for the early pages interaction with odo but then when an explanation is made to him he changes to null and admits he read the interaction incorrectly so no reason to scum read off this anymore.

For everyone? Cos I'm pretty sure I outlined my stance on everyone under it.

In regards to Ultra - I felt, and still have a nagging feeling, that he was using the discussion point of you soft towning me off of the Dragon vote as a crux to drive discussion since he had nothing else to go off. He had made some OK points along the way but when you pushed back (imo slapped back), he seemed to stumble a little bit and appear unsure on what he was exactly saying. I'm unfamiliar with him in the sense we've only played 1 game together, and I was wrong on him last time and always want to give some benefit to people. Yeah, things were pointed out to me and I agreed on some of them, but I can't help but shake that nagging feeling that he's dwelled on a discussion point for too long (my Dragon vote) when there could have been many other things spoken about.

later in the game he's back to reading him scum for the same reason he earlier said he misread the situation for ??? reasons.

my guess is he just read him scum throughout and he just said he moved him back to null. no idea why. maybe was pushed and felt like he wasn't supposed to be reading scum off that and didn't know why and didn't want to feel stupid so just went with it.

No I don’t really believe that he laughed me off, but I don’t think him saying that is scum motivated

his reads change all the time for little sense lol it’s Lethal. Logically sound reads aren’t gonna be how you solve him. He’s already admitted he lied cos he had pre written his reads list and didn’t wanna look bad. He has legit done that exact same thing before as town lol

Poyser response when I brought this up initially, and it convinced me not to vote with him because I realised it is true that he does this as town.

now I don't understand how the same can't be applied for his flip on the t pein read. poyser said he can't understand how lethal just let the slip thing go. lethal was pissed at t pein for pushing him and pushed him back and then saw people say t pein slip. you don't think he can just jump on that as town to keep pushing his guy without understanding why he slipped and then stop using it when everyone else dropped it?

you were very confident he was town on day 1, I don't understand how you went from that to confident he is scum off him flipping a read given you know he is capable to changing his reads as town. you can't say it's different because he gave a reason this time that doesn't make sense because there's always a reason that isn't going to make sense whether he gives it or not.

 

[Evans]

I know you miss the bottom of my shoe, but you're too small this game to even crush. Like a bacterium

Interesting.

Last game, you came out of me out of nowhere.

Now I have to ask for it.

:

 

[Evans]

not confident he's scum here. how bad would a no lynch be?

So if you're not confident he's scum, what did you think he'd be?

 

[Emil]

I will bet against you but my deadline will be the end of today

bet

cant wait to use soul's gif for u

 

[Big Man]

Your interaction with Lethal was not good
Looked like busy work
Seemed like you were going through the motions

Seemed you got to the read fairly quickly over very little

uhh what? be honest you didn't read the interaction you supposedely agree with. I didn't even interact with lethal lmao.

 

[Emil]

I like how you did a total 180 the moment I started casing your ass lmao

Try to yeet me and I'll destroy you.

it says

flowa flips town

we yeet ultra

you ofcourse didn't read the first part

or you know flowa is flipping town already??

awww ultra kun

it cant be like that ez cmon

 

[Emil]

WTF? Why?

I think Ekko goes right back on my scumlist

for voting bigman?

 

[Emil]

What do you think scum flower's angle is for claiming not lynchpin

she doesnt wanna be yeeted. if she claims one and doesn't die ppl will make potato fries out of her next day

 

[Evans]

uhh what? be honest you didn't read the interaction you supposedely agree with. I didn't even interact with lethal lmao.

Oh, apologies. Your interaction with the game about Lethal was what I meant

 

[Big Man]

It didn't come out of thin air. While I did case Lethal and thought he was scum D1, there was a lingering paranoia that I was maybe wrong. Now, I don't blame myself for being wrong about Lethal because I think his town play has a lot of tells many players would read as scum, but I felt maybe I shouldn't relentlessly try to bury Lethal, especially since last game I was also wrong about him. I felt like I made a pretty decent case against Lethal and with the way he played, and no other option, I thought Lethal would flip D1. He was at L-1 for a LONG time and it was dead quiet. That sat funky in my gut. I can't tell you exactly what went down that EOD (I tried to start a reread of D1 but I just don't have enough time during the week) but I just felt with my lingering tinfoil that shit was being big brained this game, that Lethal could be town. Also looking at how fast Lethal's wagon built up again D2 shows another point that maybe they wanted to push Lethal quick in D2 (I'd have to reread D2).

I have made conclusions, though. Poyser and Gram were both town reading Lethal and did not vote for him D1. Both of them ended up voting for Lethal D2, a day phase that got hammered early. I don't buy either of them having natural progressions on Lethal enough that they both legitimately thought that wolf Lethal had bamboozled them in D1. If Poyser and Gram are both town, especially Poyser, they both thought that Lethal had played well enough, subverted his scum meta, and tricked the two of them, into believing he was town. Then, if they're both town, somehow Lethal, after bamboozling Poyser and Gram, two massive opponents, continues to unravel D2 until the point that he just gives up, letting go of any confidence he had gained after tricking Poyser and Gram D1. That's just a fucking thought process from the boys that I have a really hard time swallowing.

fair enough good post.

 

[Big Man]

Poyser literally said we could lynch him if Lethal flipped town, even opened up the day by saying that he'll enjoy his first mislynch in five years. Where are the votes? Who went after him? That speaks to his position in thread and how he does not fear a lynch.

yes I think it's fairly obvious he didn't believe he was going to get lynched and there was no apetite in the thread to lynch him at all so the 'I expect to get lynched here' was obviously a lie. another thing is he said lethal has outed himself as scum but he still said a couple of times that he thinks im scum if lethal flips town. why even consider that if you think he has outed himself?

 

[Evans]

Vote Lethal

Unvote

just wanted to see something. why would a scum lethal not claim L or N right now?

Which one of the 35 posts between these 2 made you unvote and why?

 

[Big Man]

Tiara/Poyser/Big Man in they order tbh

you followed poyser on me but have him as a stronger scum read than me? lol

 

[Emil]

Why does it *moreso* not make sense as town?

As mafia shes just objectively worsening her own chances

does she tho? claiming lynch pin is a death sentence. either mafia kills u or we do it if they don't, because u wud then be mafia by default

flow is prioritizing survival over sacrificing herself, meaning if she is scum they haven't found all the pins yet

 

[Emil]

Anyway something just occurred to me

@Ekkologix I've never played a town game with Psychic, have I?

was about to ask where is that coming from. did u guys play elsewhere?

 

[Evans]

you followed poyser on me but have him as a stronger scum read than me? lol

Following and agreeing a very different my friend

 

[T-Pein™]

@Ultra @Tiara @T-Pein™

can u tell me whats going on between u 3? do u think one of u is scum?

Kddng me with this question?
I literally have been listing my scummy players all game

 

[Emil]

It should be more damning that Lethal was apparently in his scum meta and Poyser didn't do shit D1.

i can sympathize with poyser becuase lethal certainly jester'ed his day 2 at a certain point tbh

I didn't even read lethal town lol, I guess that makes it 0 reads I gave! I guess me not hammering might have given the impression that I read him town but I didn't read him either way and thought a no lynch would be better than a mislynch at the time but I think that's wrong now.

you scum reading lethal because of the change in read pinged me because of the comments you made when I brought up him changing his read on ultra. it's a bit awkward now because I was going to argue your points further but I didn't end up getting a chance and now he's flipped. you say the situations aren't the same because he tried to explain the change this time and it didn't make sense but it literally doesn't matter if he tried to explain it or not.

just going to come back to this after I'm caught up because the explanation is confusing when I try to explain it and it's easier to just provide context with a multiquote lol.

sorry i dont follow this post at all. gna wait for the context and multiquotes

Oh wait a minute, I don't know why I assumed I ever played with you as town before....because you were definitely mafia that game lmao

I played well enough that u believed it even after the game was over hehehe

Anyways Psychic does that mean you townread me now?

well ultra you *technically* flipped town in the context of that game kek

 

[Ultra]

she doesnt wanna be yeeted. if she claims one and doesn't die ppl will make potato fries out of her next day

Yes but she always has an excuse for claiming lynchpin, it's town's collective job to lie.

All she accomplishes here is increasing her odds of getting lynched.