Can you talk me through why Tweet's position on Alco undoes your position that Tweet could have just doubled down on BPD?
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Uh, I have no idea why you're attributing the suspicion on tweet to Poyser and not Ultra here. Do you feel compelled to add your own reason to suspect tweet here? I don't think you need to.
I read you town early based on vibe, and because of the fact you made the same points to BPD that i did, at around the same time. Nothing to do with alco lol. Obviously this isn’t super strong. When ultra made his case against you, I didn’t find it all that compelling because I’d already town read you for part of your play around Flower, except the one point about your backing off BPD after the thread turned, which I did think was a good point. When I thought about it, I kinda thought that would be a bad move to do as scum when it’s not really needed but obviously I approached that from a place of already having you as town.
Then before I went too deep defending you for the day, I wanted to have a quick re-read of your ISO to make sure I was confident of the read. When i re-read it I noticed that A) you had essentially just shaded alco after he came in and cased you by calling his entrance uninspiring B) I re-saw your post about my reads which I had forgotten about because i saw it after day ended and didn’t get a chance to reply (well I actually did reply but then realised day had ended so deleted my post lol) but that was a pointless, shit post that your follow up was also pointless and shit
Then you add the fact that actually, your posts aren’t very townie anyway, to the fact that you did essentially try and half heartedly push BPD, and then backtracked when you saw that me and Gram didn’t agree with it then yeah I think there’s a pretty decent chance you are scum that’s just playing a weak game and struggled to decide what to do in a phase where an indy outed themselves really early. Clearly you didn’t care much to make any effort to actually try and push BPD or stop people from talking about Flower because as ultra says, there’s really no need to do that as mafia when you’re just happy that flower is getting lynched lol
as for your defence against my points, I literally don’t think it makes sense at all lol. I don’t understand what you’re trying to say about me using your alco posts to change a read even tho my town read wasn’t based on them? Genuinely can’t grasp whatever point it is you think you’re making or why whether my town read was based on your alco posts is relevant at all lol
Woof woof!
(What explanation do you have for Poyser doing a 180 on you, as scum, in this instance?)
I probably agreed that it was uninspiring yeah.
This should be covered by my response to tweet I think. It’s not all about his position on alco but rather the grand sum of his posts just aren’t as good as I’d originally thought they were. I do think it’s a bad play as scum to do what he did still, but also the fact that it’s the path of least resistance has to be a factor too as you said and as ultra has said as well.
I really doubt anyone whose town would intentionally neighbor scum and not try to then out them for the next day's lynch.
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why would scum forgo a night kill? unless maybe to chaos.
Hans Tweetenberg
Exceptional
I really don't buy that your read on me was one instance of liking something you saw and the rest was supposedly confirmation bias, to me it reeks of keeping a guy onside until you decide it's time to throw him into the fire.
Alcos play doesn't look any better after you've realized that I'm the one he voted for. I'll even concede that his point against me had a bit of merit, it's the rest I wasn't too fond of. If you liked me pointing out that his play was weak so far, then clearly that doesn't change just because you realized that he voted me. Seems to me like you're trying to present that suspicion of mine as mere OMGUS which it isn't.
Me backtracking from BPD had nothing to do with you and Gram, that's just you trying to paint me as afraid of the two of you without outright saying so.
I'm playing a weak game and so are a lot of other people, the reasons are obvious. I tried to get BPD at least to talk about something other than Flower but quickly threw the towel when I realized that it was gonna be pointless to chastise everybody everytime they talked to or about the indies, especially so when I couldn't find anything better to talk about myself, so yeah I just sat back and watched. The BPD/Aurelian argument did nothing to change that, if anything it made me wanna tune out more.
Hans Tweetenberg
Exceptional
Also I seriously don't know why you're making this big a deal out of me saying "7 town reads looks like a lot"
More often than not I'd actually say that having that many town reads as a strong player is a good thing because if you're scum, you don't wanna nail yourself down with too many town reads that you may have to gradually backtrack from as the game progresses. With a player like Lethal it'd be a bad thing since it'd play into his scum meta of being unable to hide that he already has all the answers and so on.
That's the kind of thing I actually read into that many town reads, but again I kept that to myself since a post like that can be interpreted however you like, and it's the way that people interpret posts that say nothing like that one that can be telling.
More often than not I'd actually say that having that many town reads as a strong player is a good thing because if you're scum, you don't wanna nail yourself down with too many town reads that you may have to gradually backtrack from as the game progresses. With a player like Lethal it'd be a bad thing since it'd play into his scum meta of being unable to hide that he already has all the answers and so on.
That's the kind of thing I actually read into that many town reads, but again I kept that to myself since a post like that can be interpreted however you like, and it's the way that people interpret posts that say nothing like that one that can be telling.
The X
Marvelous
It was probably a town ability.
Hans Tweetenberg
Exceptional
On that note
Can people quit talking about the lack of night kills as if that's ever gonna result in figuring it out
Poyser vs Tweet is on the menu right now, weigh in if you'd please
Can people quit talking about the lack of night kills as if that's ever gonna result in figuring it out
Poyser vs Tweet is on the menu right now, weigh in if you'd please
I didn't slip on anything
I'm still trying to adjust coming off from hosting a role-madness game and what not with the different terminology that I'm used to vs Worstgen or whatever site you guys come from
I don't feel any fear at all. I am 100% vouch safe as a townie, T-Pein's joke post lynch vote at me in Day 1 doesn't rattle me. Neither does this guy or CP. I'm still not satisfied about BPD and don't fully trust him to be town certified. I hate to piggy-back off Tweet but pushing BPD to do anything else besides hyper focus after the issue of Xenos and Flower being outted was like I said earlier, pulling teeth with him. Didn't want to engage me when I stuck to him on it, then just kept shading me while using Poyser like a safety net or shield.
That said TAT is claimed Vig and tried to shoot as he claimed, at Xenos, which had his shot either stopped or whatever with the ceasefire thing. I have no reason other then to shake my head at him. The inactives and less active players in Day 1 should be sussed on right now; Rugrat, CP, Alco (I know he claimed less activity due to IRL stuff but still), who else was less active? You via Psychic I suppose.
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