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Game Ranked The Traitors Mafia

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Shepard

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Let me check first
@Shepard did Lethal answer your questions or avoid them?

as far as I know the only thing he's said in reply to me today is to continually say i'm tunnelling

the best thing he's said today is still this tbh:
Who did magic have as his scum reads? If a better player than I can see crossover between his reads and poyser’s, we’ll have our wolves

Lets all consider who falls under the category of someone scum read by both Magic and Poyser
 

Shepard

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Perhaps the most damning thing about you is you only play to defend yourself, that in itself is scummy. But with all these power roles around… I will believe you being vanilla, fuck it

i mean obviously his claim does nothing for me regardless but if we do have a vanilla scum then maybe a vc tracks a bit more
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
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as far as I know the only thing he's said in reply to me today is to continually say i'm tunnelling

the best thing he's said today is still this tbh:


Lets all consider who falls under the category of someone scum read by both Magic and Poyser
that doesnt even work as one of them flipped scum lol
 

Emil

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i mean obviously his claim does nothing for me regardless but if we do have a vanilla scum then maybe a vc tracks a bit more
if fang is town then hime becomes instant scum for me, the thing is neither fang nor hime scum read each other its throwing me off

i may also be giving too less credit to poyser distancing his team well, in that event even tweet and richard can be scum but tbh at this point only willing to explore this if the current PoE flips town

anyway i shud rly go sleep now probably wont wake up on time for EoD so will vote now most likely
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
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as far as I know the only thing he's said in reply to me today is to continually say i'm tunnelling

the best thing he's said today is still this tbh:


Lets all consider who falls under the category of someone scum read by both Magic and Poyser

Wait. This is a post from *today*?

:hestonpls
 

Shepard

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that doesnt even work as one of them flipped scum lol
I mean I get the thought process as Poyser is good enough to not just totally leave mates out of his scum reads

If we're working off that basis it's Lethal and Psychic who look bad from that
 

Emil

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I mean I get the thought process as Poyser is good enough to not just totally leave mates out of his scum reads

If we're working off that basis it's Lethal and Psychic who look bad from that
@Psychic look into my eyes and tell me u r town. don't lie to me. i will hereby activate infinite kekkoyomi on you

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Emil

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i have these reasons to think psychic/poyser arent aligned

1. when RDK town read psychic for being confident in shitposting, poyser descredited that town read indirectly by saying that behavior is NAI for her. this was vague and i am unsure if poyser was refering to the town read or scum read on psychic as RDK gave 2 reads on her, but his conclusion one was the town read. this weights otherwise if poyser meant the scum read.

2. poyser was offline for a big portion of the EoD 2. at that time he scum read nat/richard/tweet. he could have simply voted any of them instead of vote psychic in a close wagon which could have lynched her. i think the plan here was to genuinly lynch psychic such that poyser is now tied to RDK (since he will save RDK by steering to psychic) which would mean RDK gets lynched by default if poyser ever flips. this nets mafia 2 mislynches instead of RDK mislynch.


look at EoD2 vote count btw. if the plan was to lynch psychic to set up RDK as a future mislynch then one of the bolded players is poyser's teammate. i may need a reread of day 2 as well tomorrow. @Hans Tweetenberg @hime @Aurelian when did u vote psychic pls?


Votes.
@Ekkologix > Indigo
@Richard Mille > Indigo
@Goth Boy > Indigo
@Shepard > Indigo
@Ultra > Indigo
@Psychic > Indigo
@Lethal > Indigo
@hime > psychic
@Hans Tweetenberg > Psychic
@Poyser > psychic
@Magic > Psychic
@Aurelian > Psychic

@Natalija > Natalija
@Indigo > Ultra

Indigo - 7
Psychic - 5
Natalija - 1
Ultra - 1
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
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i have these reasons to think psychic/poyser arent aligned

1. when RDK town read psychic for being confident in shitposting, poyser descredited that town read indirectly by saying that behavior is NAI for her. this was vague and i am unsure if poyser was refering to the town read or scum read on psychic as RDK gave 2 reads on her, but his conclusion one was the town read. this weights otherwise if poyser meant the scum read.

2. poyser was offline for a big portion of the EoD 2. at that time he scum read nat/richard/tweet. he could have simply voted any of them instead of vote psychic in a close wagon which could have lynched her. i think the plan here was to genuinly lynch psychic such that poyser is now tied to RDK (since he will save RDK by steering to psychic) which would mean RDK gets lynched by default if poyser ever flips. this nets mafia 2 mislynches instead of RDK mislynch.


look at EoD2 vote count btw. if the plan was to lynch psychic to set up RDK as a future mislynch then one of the bolded players is poyser's teammate. i may need a reread of day 2 as well tomorrow. @Hans Tweetenberg @hime @Aurelian when did u vote psychic pls?


Votes.
@Ekkologix > Indigo
@Richard Mille > Indigo
@Goth Boy > Indigo
@Shepard > Indigo
@Ultra > Indigo
@Psychic > Indigo
@Lethal > Indigo
@hime > psychic
@Hans Tweetenberg > Psychic
@Poyser > psychic
@Magic > Psychic
@Aurelian > Psychic

@Natalija > Natalija
@Indigo > Ultra

Indigo - 7
Psychic - 5
Natalija - 1
Ultra - 1

Psychic isn't my first choice here, but I do want you to consider what would happen if Psychic is scum and Poyser were bussing her.

The answer is that I would get turned into fucking cream cheese, and that would, I think in his calculus, be a worthwhile trade off. He was pushing an angle and trying to discredit me a couple of times but couldn't quite get it to catch, and had made a show of defending RDK.
 

Lethal

Exceptional
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Guys, if I could please have 2 minutes of your time? I promise you I am a faithful, and I am here to work alongside my fellow faithfuls and sniff out the traitors. I have the heart of a lion, not the heart of a sheep and I’m ready to be king of the jungle. Let’s fucking go!

prove ur faithfulness

we shud vote here to signal our intentions

all faithful shud have kawaii faithful hearts and not want to hide their votes 👼

If you are indeed faithful, you just follow me and I will lead us to the promised land and $250,000 AUD in solid silver
This exchange to me seems to me as open wolfing and pandering. Discussing within the thread if we're to believe they don't have a scum chat. Parity here with Ekko & Poyser as a team for sure.

What do you make of that nattie kid posting about the voting and then bouncing

Setting up a mislynch candidate. Natalya and Poyser are not aligned.

everyone who post on first page is locked town until further notice

Cool good talk

vote natalja

Solidifies the non-alignment of them as a team.

so much for working with fellow faithful

look like the real faithful r busy on their sunday morning. maybe we r the traitors in page 1. exactly 3 of us
Trying too hard to show he is faithful and further pandering to Poyser. Parity remains.

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i didnt feel that he was going for good guy points. why not vote him if its scummy?
Deflecting Magic off of a Poyser scum lean due to good guy points. Further parity between them.
no comment on him saying ur trying to gain good guy points? i guess he was right then? :((
Dismisses it rather meekly
Vote Lynch One Last Username

Obligatory :)
Why???
Vote hime
Why???
as in we cant discuss shield on thread? like we cant claim if we got the shield or who we gave it to?
Ok well this makes me feel better about you not divulging said information when pressured. Who was pushing the usage outside of me?
Off the cuff impressions:

Tweet can get a light town read because he said what I was thinking regarding Ekko and the two recruits before I even saw the post.

Poyser seems a bit…unengaged? Compared to his usual, his interaction with Ekko earlier was toothless. Nothing was done on Poyser’s end to engage in order to determine his alignment through provocation - which I think is the most notable feature of his play.
Susing Poyser here, gonna say that Ultra & Poyser are NOT aligned.
For example this post gave me the impression he had convinced himself into a vote

Any thoughts on Poyser?
Triples down on it. Yeah they aren't connected.

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hes not gna vote from page 1 then lol


i mean neither magic is voting poyser to "pressure" nor is poyser commenting on magic calling his "want to look good guy" act scummy
More distancing from having to engage with a Poyser vote or any pressure. A whole load of dancing around the issue which is where I called out his thoughts being FAKE and him not actually believing what he's saying.
He can go :blobtrin
re: Poyser. Further parity in them not being aligned.

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Where is your fire aurelian. Is the lack of it how you got caught in your other scum games?
Not looking good for Fang here
Huh? You thought I was gonna lock in my vote on the second page kek?

Natalja’s entrance is the most sus to me. They were in the thread but seemed scared to post. Just posted about the vote mechanic and dipped kek. They were still around tho, cos also responded to ekkos question about being faithful
Again throwing barbs at Natalya. They're not aligned. Poyser as wolf isn't going to start burying his team early on - he lets them settle and then will throw them aside if they look a lost cause or he can profit from their lynch.
Ultra seems kinda try hard init?
another point for them not being connected
might be dumb but I kinda like this post
Strange defence of hime here. Possible connection between them.
What did you like about Shep’s entrance? I was going the other way actually as I’d expect him to at least comment on something player based but he only commented about recruit stuff exclusively lol. It’s a pretty easy focus
so he's disliked both natalya and shep's entrances here mixed in with some shade.
what

I did like Ultra's point about Poyser not being as willing to confront fwiw, but then the first couple of pages were quite dry so
Commenting on it but not committing to anything. Scared to fixate a position.
ty T-Pein

Nat did you not want to ask Poyser the same question you did to me

anyway dumb town reads are good and we should do more of them. Scum are more likely to be self conscious of that stuff and come across more logical. Like this is probably the best post Poyser has made, the rest of them are kinda bland

also after reading back over Ekko I'd say he's unlikely to be scum together w Magic. That's kinda it tho

I should stop clogging up the thread for the time being

Calling someone's post as dumb is their best post? ooft.

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Ekkologix, he is currently playing the role of town's momentuum. I am on page 8, but I doubt much will change. I can't see how Ekkologix is the traitor's teamleader right now, but people can feel free to point me towards things that will make it look different.

Subsequent town leans: Ultra and maybe you, why not?
Whom are you liking less?
I don't even know what this is

Can you quote a post of Ekko, and highlight your suspicion on one example?
Interesting defence
Not really vibing Ekko or Poyser atm
Doesn't really clarify what this vibe is? Subtle scum read?
What was this supposed to prove
This almost feels intentionally coordinated but maybe that's just me being paranoid
Yeah I see this connection so I like how we have similar views
natalija's respond to me came way later, so no.. they were not around. her response came roughly 18 minutes AFTER your vote. it's not something you can predict and use as a reason for the vote. bad

he hasnt responded about it yet as far as i see, unless u consider his replies to me about his lack of vote a response. the idea here being that he called you scummy but doesnt seem to really care
Ok I like how Ekko is digging his teeth in here and engaging with Poyser. Turning me around on him a little bit.
Roundaboutly that's what I was getting at, I'm not sure if you expect this to be a compelling defense. At the very least, if by your own admission you were bullshitting I'm not sure why I lose points in your book for calling you out for it.

If you're asking this question then surely you have some reason to think I should be approaching you differently. I'm all ears.
Yeah they are not aligned at all.
> for poyser - him ignoring magic's shade toward him kinda lame. i do sus magic more but also cant just neglect poysers lack of response here
But then you dance around committing to a poyser read and then throw magic in for ? reasons
It’s not that there was anything sticking out to comment on, more I’d expect you to try and get involved in the game and interact a bit rather than just discussing the recruit which you’re not really gonna het anything out of, reads wise

Since you’ve started posting more, what exactly was it about natalija’s post that you liked?
Panders to Shep (possible conenction) and then shades off on natalya yet again
This is such a shite post as well, but seems like a pretty standard TOWN lethal entrance. Doubt he starts off by being aggro towards me out of everybody
Typical Poyser to dismiss my post as shite and then label it as a standard town entrance. I don't see any part of my play as being aggro when I merely asked why he was after buddy points
Yeah Aurelian is town lmao
Gives this read based off of????
You lose points because the scumhunting feels forced. What exactly is it you expect me to do when it’s just me and Ekko around in pages 1-2 of the game. Expecting any kind of bite and hunting is pretty unrealistic which is why I don’t really see it as genuine from you.

Do you have any other thoughts on the game at all? There’s way more content now than page 1 fluff to sink your teeth into
More points here for Ultra

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Yes, I’d say Nat, RAEM and Ultra are the guys I don’t like this far

Already probably enough to say RAEM and Ultra are less likely to be aligned
Well RAEM flipped town and Nat/Ultra are town leans of mine so this looks good for them
I’ve got

Hime
Aurelian
Lethal

As town so far

Haven’t really minded Ekko so far either tbh, seems pretty focussed and wanting to hunt players down so you can add a soft town lean on him too
Interesting little list here. I mean I know I am town, but there's nothing from hime to suggest a town lean here other than "dumb post" which is weak sauce. The Ekko read is strange because it's a soft lean as opposed to the strong read that he has for hime, fang and myself.
actually dont get the lethal town read either @Poyser

1. you have seen him go aggro on u like this as scum before, matter of fact that could be what he wants to do to seem townie
2. usually u speculate the possibility of coaching but u r neglecting it entirely here, how come?
I like this and think this has me leaning you town on this exchange based on you not being aligned.

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What did you think of my points on Poyser
Pandering to Haza
Post them
Odd defence here that has no reason to be here
What do you like about Nat and Ultra?
I don’t see what you could possibly like about nat so I’m all ears. In terms of ultra, have you actually read my posts around him at all? You’re saying you like him here but I’m not even sure you’ve interacted with him have you?

I thought it was a bad point made to try and get the game going and see reactions, I never said it was fluff at all! I even said it’s what I’d expect from him lmao. Ur just rephrasing the same question over and over again

I didn’t mind magics Aurelian vote at the time, it’s Aurelians posts since then which make me think he’s town
More shade on Nat & Ultra
Yes, because every single time I’ve seen him be scum he properly struggles for content. Like the times he’s been caught he was stuck making excuses for not being around, and commenting on activity of other players. He really can’t get into the game early. Other than his first shitpost here, when he came back around he started playing the game and giving actual thoughts on players so far. Never seen that from him as scum
Big reach to justify a town read on Fang
Just gonna say I am fairly comfortable lynching RAEM here
Ekko likes this. He hadn't shown any indication of wanting RAEM gone until here. Mind = fucked.

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I find your continued lack of interest in comments that should elicit a reaction from you kind of bizarre. You're telling me you have no objection to his assessment that I am reading you favorably? Nothing at all about that is weird?

I can offer comment on why I disagreed with your take specifically - I felt that the shoe didn't fit. It's a common trope for players like say, Flower, to play the "helpful townie" card. But even if Poyser is scum, he doesn't strike me as the type of player that attempts to establish himself as town through such avenues and find it squarely NAI.

Conversely, my scum read of Poyser is based on the standard of his own play, and I haven't been exactly quiet with this impression so I can't fathom how you even bother to ask
More proof.
Lmao but you literally asked me basically the same question about Nat????
Further hade of natalya
Can't say I understand why people are giving hime town leans for her post about recruits being able to decline, having that sort of outlook on it seems easily fakeable imo
hime/tweet not aligned
No, I mean Shep asked you about why you called my post boring and not his. Your response was comparisons are odious. I agree. Different players bring different expectations

Yet when I presented a scum read of Natalija, you asked why the same scum read didn’t apply to you because you also dipped??
More shade on her. Yikes.

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Now this is just a load of bollox lol. I got him wrong once, and actually on D1 I was so confident he was town on D1 that I stalled day out and forced a no lynch over lynching him. I changed my mind on D2 because he did some shit I couldn't reconcile as town and I was wrong. I've not been wrong about him in any other game? My way of reading him is pretty good in fact

And about him "changing his game", you make this point every single game, and yet every single game he doesnt change his game. Ofc I could coach him but why would I be taking that into account when I obviously know Im not? Just stupid
So I'm not sure where I can be connected with Poyser here? He slapped Ekko down when he tried to suggest the read was wrong.
Wtf
No you asked me a stupid as fuck comparison question, yet when Shep asked you a very similar question instead of answering him you just commented on your disdain for comparisons. Its almost like you were questioning me just for the sake of it tbh
More subtle defending of Shep
I dont have a whole lot of thoughts about tweet so far lol, nothing he has said has pinged me so far and he's sus of Nat so I'd say fairly positive on the whole, but not really town reading him for any reason
Can read hime off a dumb post, me and nat off entry posts, but can't commit to a read on Tweet other he is suspicious of natalya which fits poyser's narrative. Could be some parity here for them as a team.

Conclusion:

Poyser is NOT aligned with: Ultra, Natalya, Lethal, Ekko, Fang

Poyser CAN BE aligned with: Tweet, Shepard, hime, Psychic

I have no read of Richard or Goth.

Ekkologix
Richard Mille
Goth Boy
Hans Tweetenberg
Shepard

Aurelian
Ultra

Psychic
Natalija
Lethal

hime
 

Lethal

Exceptional
as far as I know the only thing he's said in reply to me today is to continually say i'm tunnelling

the best thing he's said today is still this tbh:


Lets all consider who falls under the category of someone scum read by both Magic and Poyser
What was your question? Sorry I was reading the first portion of the game.
Even if he flips town - he’s a lot to blame
Oh?
 

Natalija

Divine Departure
Conclusion:

Poyser is NOT aligned with: Ultra, Natalya, Lethal, Ekko, Fang

Poyser CAN BE aligned with: Tweet, Shepard, hime, Psychic

I have no read of Richard or Goth.

Ekkologix
Richard Mille
Goth Boy
Hans Tweetenberg
Shepard

Aurelian
Ultra

Psychic
Natalija
Lethal

hime
Good post, can you rank the ones you suspect the most? Who will you vote?
 
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