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Ultra said:
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You literally just skipped my boy. Don't play dumb. You said you'd come back to Gram and Evans after Tpein flips town. The correct way to show you don't have TMI would have been to say 'I'll come back to Evans and Gram IF Tpein flips town'.
 
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Aurelian said:
Why are you so invested in my interest in your reaction to being sussed on Juliet and interactions with SoulKiller? Is there something you want to say besides wanting to dismiss this? Also you are conceding I never called Juliet town, interestingly you were dropping Gramma's name as suspect and so did SoulKiller. Weird coincidence?
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u didnt respond to a single thing i said there
y r u so invested in defending a player u do not town read???
and y r u linking me and sk together for simply sussing both gram and juliet
nat and i sus both of them too, guess we're also scum together by that logic

omg wait, everyone voting on any wagon together r scummates!! makes so much sense

Aurelian said:
It does not require predicting what she would respond or comment with. The potential intentional shading is entirely convenient that you and SoulKiller both jumped on her at the same time, and tried to trip her up over making her seem like she was too concerned with her opener post in the game.
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:biden
let me let u explain how u would "set someone up" then
go on, im listening

Aurelian said:
The timing for one. The fact it comes off pre-planned and premeditated, your weird complete parity on most of your reads matching his, trying to trip up Juliet. Can you explain?
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HOW CAN SOMETHING BE PLANNED AHEAD OF TIME WITH NO PREDICTION
and i didnt "try to trip up juliet"
she made herself look scummy, multiple ppl have pointed that out
 
Grammaton

Grammaton

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Ekkologix said:
im still in page 28/39

ill vote for sake of achieving lynch. dont have time to post now

there was where i am b4 going to sleep

aurelian - town. i can sense a bit of appeasing in his responses to gram, like going to iso hime and just generally agreeing with lots of what gram has been saying about his reads. gives me a bit of vegas feeling. aside from this easy town
ultra - town. im glad ultra came around to town reading fang and evans, otherwise he wud be leaning scum in this list. i like the dofla direction as well
evans - town. havent rly seen scum evans so dont have much of a range for reference. dont see logical flaws in his explanations tho. i do see a bit of him being too obtuse in his replies to nat and ultra. is that scum indicative? @Grammaton
lethal - town. comment on tweet bringing up poyser was good. if tweet flips lethal is locked town for me

nat - lean town. i see some gears turning with her line of questioning. she isnt reading alot but still continues to contribute. generally good sign imo
hime - lean town. dont know how to describe it but i feel like hime seems more natural this game. last one she felt like... shackled and have to say things she didnt mean or want to

kurumi - null/town. can see general solving, but seems too safe still. need more. like need her to take stronger positions on her reads rather than sideline
BLD null/town. havent engaged in anything thought-provoking as im catching up. repeats multiple times to wanna vig aurelian cuz of his GF joke. votes evans without saying more. brings up tpein's scum list and suggests to add tpein name on it, also without saying more. can see him as town playing for the late game and just saying w.e now. felt like some of his responses to ultra were over explaining and defensive
gram - null/town. a bit defensive out of nowhere when replying to evans initial questions, and as others stated, i feel like his solving is weak or rather performative (or was at start of game). i like his post town reading fang. wish he took more time to move the discussion elsewhere than just mention that and tell people to be civil and stuff. kurumi does this too. reason for town read is cuz we share same town reads on lethal and fang and his progression on evans seemed townie, plus his replies to soul were good. my main question for gram would be.. why tpein? also need gram's read on tweet

soul - null. points on gram were okayish but not strongly followed upon. need to see more. grams responses were better imo
tpein - null. dont really sense agenda but dont recall much posts from him either or. it does seem like he is intentionally trolling just for sake of if
jules - null. seems to be solving on her own slow pace. i'll observe for a bit. have no read of her rn. comment about her gif is kind of NAI

dofla - null/scum. ultra summed it up perfectly. his vote is mostly spite and not much more. i dont agree fully with nat's take. in fairy tail dofla subbed in late so he could easily coast it out. in day 1 its not as easy. he is basically coasting out with style rn
tweet - null/scum. said dofla strike him townie then move him back to null. cant quiet put what tweet is up to so far. also lethal's comment on tweet bringing up poyser was good imo
cubey - null/scum. hes engaging with non game solving topics / general things. like phrasing ultra's post to fang into a scummy version to make it seem like ultra is fishing for fangs claim and then agreeing with gram about lynch not being between 2 people. idk how either of those help solve at that point. need to see his reads and proper reasoning. pressure
sworder null/scum. weaker read than cubey. i remember only a quick read list from him that ddint really do much or give me any townie impression. need to see more


my strongest scum read wud probably be cubey

@Grammaton whats ur read on tweet rn
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Thank you for this, welcome to the game. Scalpel time.

- If you think Fang is town, why would he appease me? Also, Ive not really pressured him, weve asked each other questions and I largely accepted his answers and vice versa. Do you think hes agreed with anything on me thats not agreeable?
- If you like Ultra's Dofla direction, why would Ultra scumreading Evans and Fang bother you so much as pertains to his alignment?
- I think your Evans read is correct, and hes typically combative as any alignment tbh. I dont get what you mean by obtuse in this sense
- Lethal is like 99.9% town
- I dont understand your read on Nat at all, pls elaborate
- Hime seems very likely town, shes night and day compared to the previous game
- Joygirl feels very town to me too. Based on the game I played where she was scum, she basically avoided the thread like the plague and gave nothing of substance. There was something else she did that specifically pinged me in that game that I cant remember, but nothing shes said or done has recreated that this game
- Your read on BPD doesnt really make sense - why would town say whatever and 'play for lategame'
- I dont follow the critique of my effort early game, given I established quickly 3 town reads that you now agree with for give or take the same reasons as me, as a direct result of my questioning?
- Im biased but agree with the take on Soul
- Tpein trolling is his MO when hes rumbled early. He has a distinct way of playing as town which he just isnt doing here (He will aggressively latch onto someone and almost proactively preflip them and frame everything theyre doing as scum. Here hes just making vague allusions to 'someone pushing him being scum'
- With the except ion of Sworder I largely agree with your other stuff - Sworder has been way better than tpein, even by your own metric, cause at least hes playing the game

in conclusion, enough here to work with, Id like you to flesh out some of the stuff I identified above tho

As for tweet, Ive given it, hes somewhere between null and scum
 
Ultra

Ultra

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Grammaton said:
Thank you for this, welcome to the game. Scalpel time.

- If you think Fang is town, why would he appease me? Also, Ive not really pressured him, weve asked each other questions and I largely accepted his answers and vice versa. Do you think hes agreed with anything on me thats not agreeable?
- If you like Ultra's Dofla direction, why would Ultra scumreading Evans and Fang bother you so much as pertains to his alignment?
- I think your Evans read is correct, and hes typically combative as any alignment tbh. I dont get what you mean by obtuse in this sense
- Lethal is like 99.9% town
- I dont understand your read on Nat at all, pls elaborate
- Hime seems very likely town, shes night and day compared to the previous game
- Joygirl feels very town to me too. Based on the game I played where she was scum, she basically avoided the thread like the plague and gave nothing of substance. There was something else she did that specifically pinged me in that game that I cant remember, but nothing shes said or done has recreated that this game
- Your read on BPD doesnt really make sense - why would town say whatever and 'play for lategame'
- I dont follow the critique of my effort early game, given I established quickly 3 town reads that you now agree with for give or take the same reasons as me, as a direct result of my questioning?
- Im biased but agree with the take on Soul
- Tpein trolling is his MO when hes rumbled early. He has a distinct way of playing as town which he just isnt doing here (He will aggressively latch onto someone and almost proactively preflip them and frame everything theyre doing as scum. Here hes just making vague allusions to 'someone pushing him being scum'
- With the except ion of Sworder I largely agree with your other stuff - Sworder has been way better than tpein, even by your own metric, cause at least hes playing the game

in conclusion, enough here to work with, Id like you to flesh out some of the stuff I identified above tho

As for tweet, Ive given it, hes somewhere between null and scum
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I'm confused about what your priority is here
 
Grammaton

Grammaton

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Ultra said:
It's hard for me to buy him going from levelheaded town sheepherder to suddenly pausing for thought exactly when there's some uncertainty about T surfacing. Registers as opportunistic. He isn't voting me, and could very well be sitting back and allowing things to roll over in my direction without dirtying his own hands
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Yeah, I know what you mean, I get cold feet when people respond to things other people say rather than just ignoring them too
 
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