Fate/Mafia - Game Thread

[Juliet]

Interesting how the female players are ganging up on me. Maybe it's because in the other forum I said I wanted to join the boys team.

 

[Evans]

Uh, I'm pretty sure I identified you as a *scum read* that I'm less sure about - sniping my categorization is not going to help me change my mind, or are you insinuating the guy who typed an essay on you identifying your scummy traits is not in fact scum reading you?

Not going to do a big quote wall for this one, as I don’t have the time and I’m not really as sure about him as the other two, just going to post my impressions from re-reading him:

Nope you said this then put me as a scum read in the reads list

 

[Lord Melkor]

Tweet shaded me and I confronted him for not wanting to engage with me, he said he doesn't have to engage with me which means there was no genuine solving, it looked like he misrepped me, was getting in an argument with Ultra at the same time, and we eventually engaged with each other.

Kurumi said Tweet looks good for being genuine while I look worse. I saw it scummy how Kurumi did not give thoughts on Tweet's post where it looked like he misrepped me that made me scum read him and for Kurumi to have an opinion on me she would have first need to have an opinion on Tweet's post I talked about. This looked like to me Kurumi was fabricating her post because there was no progression on her thought process about Tweet and me. I have asked her to respond to 2 of my posts and she avoids them. It was scummy when Kurumi sheeped T-Pein for saying I tried to save a scummate.

I am trying to follow this. Did Kurumi scum read you based on your exchange with Tweet?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Interesting how the female players are ganging up on me. Maybe it's because in the other forum I said I wanted to join the boys team.

What?

 

[Natalija]

Because of everything I've said. Just read my posts. The man is full of shit.

I've read your posts, you've mostly called him full of shit and obnoxious, and you also called him out on the Pein flip; but you did not explain why he's "full of shit". We're not mind readers here.

You have asked me questions and you never made a conclusion and instead you said you were willing to vote in 3 players.

I made a conclusion by saying I was willing to vote you, didn't I

 

[Evans]

I don’t understand why you’d say “I’m not sure on him” which implies well, you don’t know what to think after you spent yesterday day phase suggesting I was likely town then turning back to calling me scum

 

[Juliet]

I am trying to follow this. Did Kurumi scum read you based on your exchange with Tweet?

To me it did not look like it. She hasn't been elaborating very well.

 

[Natalija]

Interesting how the female players are ganging up on me. Maybe it's because in the other forum I said I wanted to join the boys team.

Lmao no clue what you're even talking about, but if you think this is ganging up, then woman up.

 

[Ultra]

T-Pein was making this connection first and while his way of getting out was stupid his lynch confirmed him as town. Between you two I think that Juliet looks worse than you but your post today where you came up with a possible connection between Gramma and me and teaming up with her in joining her vote on me surely doesn´t get you any good townie points. What is your opinion on Juliet btw?

What does Juliet joining my case have to do with me?

First you insinuated that we cooked some plan to attack you/gram or whatever, now you're saying she was borrowing my case, but somehow this implicates me.

I think she's looking pretty good thus far. You, on the other hand, seem quite a bit more involved than you were yesterday, now that you're being attacked.

 

[Juliet]

What?

That's a meme.

 

[Ultra]

Nope you said this then put me as a scum read in the reads list

...yes, I said "I'm not sure about him as the other two", the other two referring to the scum cases I just dropped, so where are you going with this and what contradiction do you think you're pointing out here lol

 

[Kurumi]

Interesting how the female players are ganging up on me. Maybe it's because in the other forum I said I wanted to join the boys team.

Yeah, THAT must be the reason...

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Tweet shaded me and I confronted him for not wanting to engage with me, he said he doesn't have to engage with me which means there was no genuine solving, it looked like he misrepped me, was getting in an argument with Ultra at the same time, and we eventually engaged with each other.

Kurumi said Tweet looks good for being genuine while I look worse. I saw it scummy how Kurumi did not give thoughts on Tweet's post where it looked like he misrepped me that made me scum read him and for Kurumi to have an opinion on me she would have first need to have an opinion on Tweet's post I talked about. This looked like to me Kurumi was fabricating her post because there was no progression on her thought process about Tweet and me. I have asked her to respond to 2 of my posts and she avoids them. It was scummy when Kurumi sheeped T-Pein for saying I tried to save a scummate.

How is saying I don't have to talk to you the same as not solving you properly? I don't typically talk to people, I mostly make observations about their play and just blurt em out into the thread without adressing them directly, that doesn't mean it's not genuine solving.

 

[Natalija]

Though Ultra DOES like to drop "scum cases" at the start of the day as scum

Thoughts @hime

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

@Hans Tweetenberg

I am formally extending an apology for my conduct yesterday

Ok that gif is S-tier

 

[Ultra]

@DoflaMihawk

I saw Hime bidding RDK good luck in his champs game! Are you too busy crying to come and lynch me? Sad!

 

[Lord Melkor]

Multi-ISO of Gram/Kurumi

This includes most of Kurumi’s posts and some of Gram’s. The only thing missing is her talking about Dofla.

Spoiler

One of Kurumi's first posts in the game, and this is kind of an awkward post that kind of bolster's Grams credibility as town before that can possibly be established



Gram's first real mention of Joygirl is when he's addressing SK, and my best attempt at explaining this is that he is trying to make the insinuation that Soul is perhaps taking a swing at her due to personal bias? Not a great look, and isn't followed up on.



This is Kurumi's most substantial post, and a lot of it goes absolutely nowhere. She's doing the pairmatching thing between multiple players she doesn't quite have a read on and is mostly trying to establish grounds for doubt without giving away any freebies

The sole exception to this is Gram, and she comes across as very self aware making this read.








^ Kurumi noses in to a discussion about Gram and shores up Tweet's town read.



I want to note the sentiment of this post, which Gram directs at Aurelian, because Kurumi drops this absolute stinker of a post next:



This is probably the worst post in the entire game - no exaggeration. She went from Town reading me earlier, states T-Pein isn't really offering much, but defers to lynching me for "info".

Gram does not tear into this post in spite of his position around info lynches, which is really hard for me to wrap my head around.





Kurumi is kind of catching the waves of the existing suspicion of Juliet here, and I think this isn't a coincidence, and shows she's following along with the thread more closely than she's giving away after several players have already beaten this drum.



Seems rather reluctant to actually toss a vote here, fake sentiment



Joygirl shows bunnyears here and cannot resist sniping the scumslip/TMI angle on me when it comes up



lol

This really tells me Gram hasn't been reading her posts, because aside from what I've quoted, really all Joygirl does is beat on about Dofla, who's not present to defend himself and is quite the easy thing to do if he's town.

I also checked her posts from Radiant, and the distinction really isn’t all that apparent at all. Actually, I’d say it strikes me as pretty similar. This doesn’t pass smell check. Gram doesn’t just toss out these kinds of reads without questioning a slot unless the disparity between play is super obvious. I can see this for someone like say, Aurelian, but not here.

Takeaway: I think there's some good equity between these two. If they're not partners, then at the very least it needs to be addressed why Gram is giving a pass to this slot, because any explanation I can come up with belies a t/t interaction. Town Gram would not miss digging into a transparent pocket attempt, Scum Gram could probably take the free town read and roll with it

Interesting. Don't you however think that scum Grammaton would distance more from Joygirl if they were scum together?

 

[Grammaton]

Well, you did withdraw it, right after he dropped his case on me

So ... wheres the likelihood hes lynched then?

 

[Grammaton]

Excuse me? Don't make stuff up.

Well, I haven't read most of yesterday, but when I left I suspected Hans, Grammy and you. I haven't lost that feeling yet, especially since something weird is happening between you, Kurumi, Grammy and Ultra. Clearly it's a scum push and pull there.

It is?
Could you maybe map out how you work this out, beyond base probability that in 4 players, its a decent chance at least 1 is scum?

 

[Juliet]

Which scum hunting are you speaking of?
Most of what you´re doing is just going full OMGUS on me.

I have been looking into the reasoning of the scum reads and if they look bad I will question it. I noticed alot of the bad scum reads were on me

I've read your posts, you've mostly called him full of shit and obnoxious, and you also called him out on the Pein flip; but you did not explain why he's "full of shit". We're not mind readers here.


I made a conclusion by saying I was willing to vote you, didn't I

I want to see reasons on why you are scum reading the players and you can't just give a list of names.