Ranked Baki Mafia

[Frinckles]

Well, DR didn't explicitly make it, they consulted him on it. He was in college back then.

 

[RDK]

I'm okay with either Gad or RDK today, fwiw.

Why not aurelian?

 

[Flower]

Then you'll love that I've been play sc2mafia for some years prior to FM. I'm also the current developer of the mod although I've been lazy lately.

Dark Revenant originally made sc2mafia and worked to develop ToS. We're not so different, you and I.

Inb4 you're 26, too, and my long lost twin.

 

[Dr. Watson]

It was only to see him claim to see if there was anything inconsistancies. I wanted him to claim so we would see better. Like I said, it's only a theory based on "soulplay" But I just didn't remove it. I'm unvoting for the moment.

Unvote

Also you did the opposite of what I asked, I wanted to leave it up to Flower to unvote for a reason

If you must unvote since you're waiting for a consensus from Big Daddy Gram, that's fine, but don't you go disappearing on me and then popping in the very last second - you're an asset

 

[Frinckles]

Why not aurelian?

I'd rather solve between you two. It makes more sense from my perspective. I'd guess it should make more sense from your perspective too.

Plus, there's a chance you guys are bussing eachother. Risky play, but it's possible.

 

[Gaddamnit]

Who're your team mates?

RDK ofc


I kid, I'm not scum plij

 

[Frinckles]

Inb4 you're 26, too, and my long lost twin.

Maybe your older brother lmao.

 

[Flower]

Also you did the opposite of what I asked, I wanted to leave it up to Flower to unvote for a reason

If you must unvote since you're waiting for a consensus from Big Daddy Gram, that's fine, but don't you go disappearing on me and then popping in the very last second - you're an asset

Why, though? My vote's on RDK.

 

[Dr. Watson]

Why, though? My vote's on RDK.

I wanna test a theory on who and how people react to Nibel's vote next day if there even is one

 

[Frinckles]

Yes but you haven't played here, where mass claims are part of the ranked games

Some places don't do this and prefer the mystery via other ways of solving like trying to decipher wagons, but here it's viewed as highly beneficial in order to clear slots and make sense of them and reveal any potential agenda behind people wanting to lynch someone like you.

Does that make sense?

Yeah I get that. I mean, one rule change can heavily influence how people play plus communities have norms. You guys like Majority im guessing.

 

[Chairman Nibel]

But did he give you any satisfactory answers?

He's more than likely scum/has a higher chance of being scum if you pay close attention to him following Magic's agenda.

There's a very small chance he was pocketed and got hounded by Magic from the getgo on his Craig vote, which would imply he's town. But that's incremental.

With SK, the only thing that would fit an SK profile is his method of self-preservation by cherrypicking other's plays in response to his own (Xenos vs Aurelian or Gram vs Aurelian as examples)
Otherwise, his interactions with Magic, him voting Sky, etc points to him pressing an agenda alongside Magic. It's just too oriented around traditional scumplay especially when gunning for a lynch against a player that was aggressively challenging her reads, which could prove obviously detrimental to them.

It just looks bad.

SKs wouldn't need to agenda press - they simply would need to blend in without raising suspicion. Imo, he'd be more grounded rather than aggressive because it'd ensure he wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb. I could be wrong, it just doesn't make sense to me viewing it through the lens of an indie play.

Yeah my argument was a bit stupid but I'm using my poor experience as a tool. It's the only thing I can bring from myself for the moment. I'm not sure if I can believe his claim. I don't know how Fang is usually playing as a scum or if he has the need experience to play the opposite way a indie is supposed to play.

But I think we should lynch either Gad or RDK. Gram is currently our "leader" and the one I trust the moment. I wish to learn from his play, if he has to cut the decision between the two, I'll follow him without hesitation.

 

[Dr. Watson]

But now that's pretty much foiled

You have less potential to get shaded over your vote, whereas Nibel has been placed in the position of doubt around his slot

If I could have seen what would happen with the wagon in the future, I could sniff out the people trying to question his antics and motives

Basically bait

 

[RDK]

I'd rather solve between you two. It makes more sense from my perspective. I'd guess it should make more sense from your perspective too.

Plus, there's a chance you guys are bussing eachother. Risky play, but it's possible.

If you have doubt that I'm bussing gad you should always vote gad before me. You only vote for me if you're fully convinced it's a bus

 

[Aurelian]

Why not aurelian?

So what's your solve when I flip town and if suggesting me as a lynch, why is your vote not parked on me if you think I have equity with Gad?

 

[Flower]

But now that's pretty much foiled

You have less potential to get shaded over your vote, whereas Nibel has been placed in the position of doubt around his slot

If I could have seen what would happen with the wagon in the future, I could sniff out the people trying to question his antics and motives

Basically bait

I see. I don't think shade would work, though.

 

[Chairman Nibel]

Also you did the opposite of what I asked, I wanted to leave it up to Flower to unvote for a reason

If you must unvote since you're waiting for a consensus from Big Daddy Gram, that's fine, but don't you go disappearing on me and then popping in the very last second - you're an asset

I'll follow Gram. And, I'll be here don't worry.

 

[Frinckles]

If you have doubt that I'm bussing gad you should always vote gad before me.

I would prefer to. Something bothers me about having a town roleblocker who lied initially while also having a doc.

Who knows what Ultra cooked up though.

 

[Dr. Watson]

Yeah my argument was a bit stupid but I'm using my poor experience as a tool. It's the only thing I can bring from myself for the moment. I'm not sure if I can believe his claim. I don't know how Fang is usually playing as a scum or if he has the need experience to play the opposite way a indie is supposed to play.

But I think we should lynch either Gad or RDK. Gram is currently our "leader" and the one I trust the moment. I wish to learn from his play, if he has to cut the decision between the two, I'll follow him without hesitation.

I didn't say your argument is stupid, I'm just saying I view it differently and in terms of indie profiles, I just don't see it actually tracking. We can agree to disagree.

I'll even go further and say I'm not even sure we even have an indie. I'll discard - for a moment - the theory of 5 scum being a misdirection to bide time and confuse people (as it's happened before.)
It could simply be five scum vs the rest of us, which does increase the difficulty of solving the game

Vs an indie and 4 scum we have to worry about
Or maybe I just don't want to think about an indie in the midst of things since it'd fuck us over big time since indies tend to survive endgame as the primary goal is hunting for Mafia

 

[Dr. Watson]

I see. I don't think shade would work, though.

Unsuspecting newbies or people that aren't familiar with the players puts scum at an advantage this game to muddy the waters via shading imo

I won't discount it just yet since it doesn't matter if you and Gram see through the crock of shit, it'd be hard to convince the newbies otherwise if they get pocketed by someone they aren't familiar with imo

 

[Flower]

Unsuspecting newbies or people that aren't familiar with the players puts scum at an advantage this game to muddy the waters via shading imo

I won't discount it just yet since it doesn't matter if you and Gram see through the crock of shit, it'd be hard to convince the newbies otherwise if they get pocketed by someone they aren't familiar with imo

Yeah. It's why I think RDK's comment regarding Town locking Frink was bad. He's new to this site and isn't gonna pull that off first thing. And I don't see Magic cooking that up either.