Game Elden Ring Mafia

[Dr. Watson]

doing that helps observe potential inconsistencies

 

[The X]

Forgot to reply to the second paragraph.

Not sure at all what you're talking about with the Lethal flip? If he flips town then all suspicion falls on me? Then why am I pushing for his lynch? If Lethal is scum, how am I scum? Not sure what this is supposed to mean at all.

 

[Dr. Watson]

Retro, this rabbit hole helps no one. There was no defense of Evans. I was/am dead confident in Doddsy and Lethal. Why on earth would I want anyone else other than those two lynched? Once Lethal flips wolf, and if Golden Order are not dead, then Evans is for sure on the table.

I've explained why the Tiara flip makes this tinfoil more plausible

she sensed something on you, so do I, and even ekko does
And what exactly are we sensing?

 

[Dr. Watson]

Forgot to reply to the second paragraph.

Not sure at all what you're talking about with the Lethal flip? If he flips town then all suspicion falls on me? Then why am I pushing for his lynch? If Lethal is scum, how am I scum? Not sure what this is supposed to mean at all.

suspicion from me falls on you*

this is specifically just relevant to the scum BPD theory at hand

 

[Dr. Watson]

explain why you wanted a lethal lynch over evans

 

[The X]

i think its pretty obvious at this point i was only 2xshot, lol.


as above, im out of shots. so no.


yeah this fucks everything up lol. Although ...

this. Lethal looks much worse from this than BPD because Lethal was the guy we had told Ultra to hide behind. So it was pretty telegraphed. although im not sure how ultra's hider role would interact with this?

If Doddsy's role actually would affect whether Ultra dies, I'd feel comfortable lynching Lethal today. But it feels kinda bastard tbh

exactly

yeah evans and lethal are my biggest susses right now, alco based on POE if there's anyone extra I guess.

WIFOM tbh. kinda like you bringing this up though cos i dont think you would if you were the scum he put in this group.

I honestly think it works like this.

Weak hider dies when targeting wolf but survives while targeting town.

Thread tells Ultra to target Lethal.

Doddsy targets Lethal N2 and all investigations become reversed.

Lethal is technically 'town' N2 and when Ultra targets him, weak hider thinks it has targeted town. Thus Ultra survives and Lethal is 'confirmed' town.

Since this was easily broadcast, this is the likely scenario.

 

[Dalton]

idk, it's where my dude lives but I have zero theme knowledge

did you not get told at all what this means?

@Arp Bladstrum is this what you got when Big Man neighbourised you? @Big Man did you neighbourise Lethal?

If this isn't the neighbourise it just smells like bullshit misdirection

You know I love you, but there probably is not a whole lot of value for scum to night kill you. Bigger fish to fry.

Me and Ekko's place is as town leaders.

excuse you

The fake poison bull shit would have been a lot.

Also, with Doddsy flipping not or healer, we know wolves have some false flag abilities. I 100 got a message saying I was going to die unless healed. But obviously Doddsy did not heal me.

he flipped with a healer role lol.

[Vote lynch Big Man]

weird lynch target, care to explain?

Doddsy did have a healing ability though? He’s the only person who has claimed they can heal status’ so if he didn’t heal you, who did?

its clear he did, even based on him saying he did in thread and then BLD confirming it.

I've got other questions though:
1. Since his role is for "status effects" after all, it implies there are more than 1 in the game. How have we not seen any others?
2. who poisoned BLD - scum or indy? town would have surely claimed it and it seems weird for scum to have the only (known) status effect and the ability to heal it. Someone was saying the fire thing is from a scum character in the lore though - its all very weird.

What if.........serpent is the 3rd indy, who tried to poison Dragon, and Doddsy 'cured' him, and they did it all in the game thread.

I don't remember who it was, but they did say it was a little strange that it was not mentioned in the game thread when it's typically suggested by the host that something has happened, right?

see above, fire stuff is supposed to be from a scum role. also i dont see why it being an indy poison would change whether its mentioned in the thread.

You lost me with the first part, ngl lmao

Someone else said it too but I mentioned that if a players is poisoned at night in my experience it’s typically mentioned in the night post and the lack of any public knowledge and it all transpiring via word of mouth was weird. That being said, it seems like a weird thing to lie about at that juncture and I’m choosing to believe BPD isn’t scum and Doddsy was trying to use that heal as a way to gain our favor instead of lynching him. He obviously didn’t account for Ekko shooting into his BP.

was me

Tarnished one and all opponents

It certainly is, you have been deemed worthy

is this confirmation its neighbouriser?

Oh wow I completely missed that. Then fuck, did wolves actually poison me just so Doddsy could heal me to prove his claim?

Holy fuck scum came up with such an elaborate fake claim. Their fake claims have honestly been sooooo good this game.

seems a kinda dumb plan tbh given doddsy was almost certainly getting lynched anyway (and he did).

 

[The X]

surely because my tinfoils make things excruciatingly complicated for the two opposing alignments lol

I don't like the self-persevering thing you've done these past couple phases, tho

The only self preserving I did was saying that maybe killing Lethal would also remove my poison.

 

[The X]

where are we on an evans lynch? are we fine with lynching our prime candidates (exclude lethal)?

And who are our prime candidates exactly?

 

[The X]

I don't like placing the ball in my court in this way since I just leave it up to others, but it'd give me an interesting direction to take here

Lots of t/t divison

You need to trust me on Lethal.

 

[The X]

no, that's not what I'm saying
but it would help me gauge things if you claim

Scum clearly has used their ability to work creatively with claims, killing Ratchet (which fang and Soul absolutely prob would do lol), and pushing an agenda against ultra

This late in the game, them using your role to fake more shit doesn't really change the tactic either
If you claim you're helping me out so I can piece together the claims thus far and work backwards or forwards to gather the current claims

For you left titty, if you ask nicely, I'll claim.

 

[Dr. Watson]

Dalton, I threw in a random vote like that to see if the thread would jump on it and the reactions it could provoke

His name has been mentioned quite a lot, but failed to generate interest

 

[Dr. Watson]

For you left titty, if you ask nicely, I'll claim.

Please ;_;

 

[The X]

I've explained why the Tiara flip makes this tinfoil more plausible

she sensed something on you, so do I, and even ekko does
And what exactly are we sensing?

You three will have to chat about it post game and tell me, honestly. I think you all just overestimate my wolf game a bit.

 

[The X]

explain why you wanted a lethal lynch over evans

Because Lethal is 100 a wolf. His thread play has been awful. There has been faked emotion. Opportune times of absence. Tunnel vision that makes zero sense. There's just absolutely nothing town about Lethal's game.

 

[Dr. Watson]

so PoE is just these 4

doddsy
lethal
phenom
alco

in that order probably

hard to see lethal and phenom in same team given lethals attempt to derail to phenom yeaterday tbh. phenom is townier overall.

i could see it as a possibility for lethal soul doddsy to get credit off phenom and make souls claim more belivable with him and doddsy being alive

should be at worst

7-4-1

likely

8-3-1 or 8-4

3 mafia being
doddsy
lethal
phenom

serpent being
bigman


could be how we solve this

And who are our prime candidates exactly?

these, i think
or largely there was a concensus on them

 

[Dr. Watson]

Because Lethal is 100 a wolf. His thread play has been awful. There has been faked emotion. Opportune times of absence. Tunnel vision that makes zero sense. There's just absolutely nothing town about Lethal's game.

agreed, tho

 

[Dr. Watson]

okay im confused and I doubt this can be host cleared til after game, but since I protected ultra, did I also wind up protecting lethal?

 

[Dr. Watson]

frankly I'm obviously still confused how the hider mechanic works with a protective interaction

 

[Dalton]

Ah ok, fuck, I thought I had something.

Ekko shot at Doddsy and Doddsy was saved by his BP. So the factional kill failed. How did this happen? Someone must have the answer here surely

the only thing i can think of is scum shot at BLD. and then also poisoned him. the shot would pop the vest, and then the poison would be able to go through.

although I think he'd be told if his vest was broken? and not sure why doddsy would heal him?

Makes me wonder why wolf BLD isn't claiming.

huh

WIFOM - phenom is fantastic at fakes. He saved himself from a lynch claiming to be masons once (as scum)

This is true, but I don't think the 'fake' here was a clever play tbh. doddsy died, bld survived.

Hider cleared, unless you assume the wolves used fuckery. Honestly not sure why they didn't shoot my way night 2 cos that gets rid of 2 targets

Hmm, I wonder why

...

I'm noting a very VERY strong hard defense for evans from BPD yday

He was *very* persistent about lynching Lethal, because if my tinfoil is to be believed, it means if lethal flips, BPD absolutely is no longer cleared and all suspicions will fall directly on him

or my tinfoil is derailing the entire thing

@Lethal I'm gonna take a proactive move, what was your claim btw
Could you maybe use one of your abilities on me during day?

im not following your logic.

Using your logic here, if lethal flips, BPD is no longer cleared. So if anything based on this logic BPD would rather flip evans than lethal - ie the opposite of a strong defense

am i missing something?

And just so happened to pick the same night that alco used his role?

can you expand what this refers to?

I honestly think it works like this.

Weak hider dies when targeting wolf but survives while targeting town.

Thread tells Ultra to target Lethal.

Doddsy targets Lethal N2 and all investigations become reversed.

Lethal is technically 'town' N2 and when Ultra targets him, weak hider thinks it has targeted town. Thus Ultra survives and Lethal is 'confirmed' town.

Since this was easily broadcast, this is the likely scenario.

If this was true it would make things a lot easier to solve, but we have no indication it is true.