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Game Elden Ring Mafia

Why would we even say we are in a neighbor chat if we were a cult lol
I mean, I fake claimed Masons with my scum mate in a game before after we got the Serial Killer lynched for cred and bussed our Godfather. So anything is possible.
 
Though I‘m mostly just joking. It‘s just odd you have so much time to get a claim from your chat partners and question them and yet you don‘t have a solid read on them yet.
 
Let's start things with DP2 for things were going back and forth alot during this DP.

The first major wagon that developed was on Lethal. Both Ultra and BPD made some good cases on the guy which lead him to being the major wagon. That was until ratchet stepped in and made a case against Ultra and mustered an wagon on the guy forcing Ultra to out his claim. That's when things once again picked up and votes switched to Poyser.

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Tweet 2 - Alco, RDK
Lethal 9 - BLD, Evans, TPein, Retro, Ultra, Soulkiller, Ekko, Yoshi, OLU
BLD 4 - Poyser, CP, Tweet, Doddsy
Retro 1 - Rugrat
Ekko 1 - Phenom

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Tweet 1 - RDK
Lethal 8 - BLD, TPein, Retro, Ultra, Soulkiller, Ekko, Yoshi, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ekko 1 - Phenom
Ultra 6 - Lethal, Arp, Rugrat, Tweet, Evans, Poyser


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Lethal 6 - BLD, TPein, Ultra, Soulkiller, Ekko, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ultra 9 - Lethal, Arp, Rugrat, Tweet, Evans, Poyser, Ratchet, RDK, Yoshi

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Lethal 3 - Soulkiller, Ekko, OLU
BLD 2 - CP, Doddsy
Ultra 5 - Lethal, RDK, Alco, Ratchet, Poyser
Tpein 1 - Dalton
Ekko 2 - Evans, Tweet
Poyser 8 - Phenom, Ultra, BLD, Tpein, Arp, Yoshi, Rugrat, Evans

Look at the DP voting patterns, It will help me digest players intentions and give us better understanding of their agenda. Especially knowing what we know now. Before I jump into this I would just say from the get go. According to Ultra information, and the development surrounding Ratchet flip that both Lethal and CP are considerably more townie than the rest of the players. Letha due to Ultra claim and CP due to him apparently taking responsibility of saving ratchet (who was botched??? apparently he was supposed to die but he didn't die???) and no one but him claimed to saving ratchet and no one cc'ed such claim. There is a world where he might be pulling a 5000 IQ move but I fear it's not worth spending too much energy on unless we are in end game and the supposedly 'doctor' is still alive. It's honestly still weird to me now how he is still alive? for doctor is one of the most strong roles if played right, but scum seems to have no interest in him. Either way, we can speculate and run through this rabbit hole later down in the game. For he is not priority right now and I am willing to believe his position for now.

The reads will develope more as I go through DP3. But I think it's good to develop and see how these reads progress as I move forward with the thread.

Evan voted for Lethal believing there is a good chance he is scum, just to switch it to Ultra after ratchet making a case on the guy for then to switch it to Poyser during the end of the DP. This hip hopping from one wagon to another can be actually townie for townies have less knowledge and are more likely to hip hop. However, for some reason I really am struggling to get a clear read on the guy. I do plan to make a detailed read on him individually alone later tonight when I am free. Will determine where he stands, he striked me as a player who is blending really well if he is scum. He had various moments in the game where he was really present and then no presence at all for having strong presence again.

BLD, made a good case and I find it real hard to view him as scum. Reason why I placed my vote on Lethal because he was one of my stronger town reads and having very low time from my end. I did follow the lethal wagon mostly cause I trusted BLD more than others. Taking into account ultra case on lethal as well made it a good place to put use of my vote instead of being wasted. Alco recently claimed he has reasons to believe he is townie? which further puts him in better spot. But I need to see why Alco believes he is townie. One way I was looking at it to get even better read on the guy is to look at his interaction with CP. Knowing what we know now it's very possible this is a TvT interaction. This obviously will be revaluated if both CP and BPD are alive in end game. For at that point I do believe there might be scum there. For now, he can sit comfortably in my townie lean list.

Yoshi, this is a player I found hard to get a read on due to how programmatic his posts were. But now I have a feeling he might indeed be scum. He was very willingly open to claim whenever any minor pressure comes his way. Fang also was pushing him hard, I do have a theory here is that if Fang wanted to get better standing with the players he would try and bus one of his team mates (in yoshi) to better his position in the game. Very possible now that I see it right now. Also, Yoshi is very easily persuaded to switch wagons as you can see from his vote tracking. Voted for Lethal > Ultra > and then switched to Poyser. Him being easily persuaded tbh does strike me a bit townie, but I would say he is null with leaning him more to the scum side.

Doddsy, I thought his catching up to the thread honestly looked good? like he was paying attention and was trying to scum hunt. He def looked better than in DP1. One thing that makes me pause is how he kept his vote on BPD the entire time during the DP2 and did not waver or move his vote anywhere else. This tells me he was content with keeping the game stale and not flip any player. This at handsight does look bad on him tbh. This slot will develope more reading wise as I go through DP3. There is a decent chance doddsy might be scum here.

Phenom, I thought phenom play was actually decent DP2 to be honest. I liked when he saw that no wagon is moving forward that he instead went for poyser (harmful indie) which is a very logical move as townie tbh, if memory serves me right he was the first one to switch to poyser when he evaluated the situation in both lethal and ultra wagons are fruitless. Which he does get credit for. His vote patterns actually was at Ekko and then Poyser. I am not sure if he voted Ultra or Lethal at any stage? memory tells me yes???? Need to confirm. His activity were always on the lower side of things tho which does not help his case. (But again I can't really say shit about activity as I been MIA during the weekend lol) For now, I'll put him as townie lean and see how he progress in DP3.

Retro, is a player I town read in the beginning, due to the nature of how this girl play the game and her excessive overthinking scenario and from personal experience playing with her. However, I am not fan of how she voted for lethal then did not vote for anyone after that??? odd thing to do as townie and honestly made me pause for a second. I know she claimed something in DP3 so I guess i will put more focus on this slot in my next post going through DP3.

Rugrat, interesting slot. Dude came gun blazing trying to axe Retro providing little to no explanation and when asked for reason he with hold from answering waiting for someone else to reply. I think he was talking to Ultra? either way not sure what to make of that move. However though, he stated that he is willing to lynch Ultra without a claim. This vote on ultra felt opportunistic dude wanted to off the dude, and yet he switched his vote away from Ultra to Poyser. This tells me that the guy was full of shit and was all an act towards Ultra spot. Good chance he might be scum.

Ekko, I didn't like how ekko positioned himself around Fang slot. I said there is 50/50 chance he would do that as scum or townie and I interacted with him briefly in DP2 and got more scum vibes from him for how dismissive he was for certain events and kinda painted things to fit his own agenda. He voted for Lethal > Phenom > Lethal. Ekko position changes alot based on the information that surfaced today so I will be talking more details about him in my future reads as I progress through the days.

Arp avoided voting for Lethal and went straight to Ultra for him to change it to Poyser. But he is still one of the players I actually strong town read simply based of his composure. If this guy flips scum then kudos to him tbh. He improved alot since last time I played with him.

Dalton, this is a player I will focus more on read wise as I progress due to the information that presented itself recently. But I do not like dalton this DP. He had no use of his vote for he voted T-Pein a townie and was not really present. I already had a scum lean on this spot due to how he tried hard to defend Fang in DP1, and he does not improve in my eyes moving into DP2.

RDK is my first strong town read actually, but that dwindled as the game progressed. I really didn't like his vote on tweet. Trying to switch the wagon from fang to tweet and even pursued tweet even more during DP2 which we know is townie now. This made his strong impression he made on me fall to be honest. He did switch to Ultra but really wishy washy push on tweet. Moved down from town lean to null as end of DP2.

Alco, is a player who made reasonable thoughts in DP1 I liked his comments in DP1 felt very reasonable and always provided reasons for his thought process which I thought looked good. Wasn't a fan of that tweet push, and is blending well same as evan if he is scum. There are information recently merging so this is a slot I will focus more on in my reads as I progress through the DP's. He voted for tweet and then switched to Ultra. As of DP2 null to slight town lean simply due to the content he provided in DP1 and 2 which I remember nodding to while reading his posts.


Now, time to move on and revaluate DP3 which I believe have alot of juicy content.
i wud be impressed with a yoshi scum flip. id say kudos to him for keeping his cool in thread.

rugrat/phenom/doddsy/evans/alco/RDK/bigman are players that wudnt surprise me if they flip scum
 
What are these questions :pogba

If I find that Tweet can kill he obviously lied about being VT??

I took into account my opinion of BPD's play when I checked him.

I was not soft scum reading poyser day 2. I was hardly around D2 lol.
i think ur usage is very safe is my problem

u arent using it to catch scum directly, u r using it to *expose* liars, which is something that can easily be faked by tmi

i like the BPD one the most. was hoping u wud check me or yoshi to signal to us how much u r trying to find scum with the ability, or lethal to confirm not godfather
 
ok well the first point is just false. I didn't say yoshi is being opportunistic on aurelian's wagon. you've completely misunderstood what I said. I said I didn't like how he made up the fact that RDK was trying to get attention off himself when defending Aurelian. I still don't like it now and mentioned as much and Aurelian's alignment in this case is not relevant as there's motivation to defend him whether aurelian is scum or town so there was no reason for me to update my read based on his flip.

the only reason to update my read on him could be because of aurelian pushing him but I don't think this makes yoshi town because it's an easy bus. aurelian is under heavy pressure and so it's unlikely his push on yoshi was going to go anywhere.

I wasn't aware he had reached majority obviously. there's literally no benefit to voting after hammer as I'm not going to get credit for it. I don't think I was reading him town but the change is that he claimed obviously as my reasoning for thinking he was scum was I didn't believe the claim.

I'll admit I was a bit lost on day 2 as I had barely read any of the thread so didn't have any strong opinions. didn't feel comfortable with trying to lead a wagon on yoshi without reading most of the thread and others who knew what was going on trying to lead their own directions. however, you've misrepresented my posts here once again. the posts about poyser were trying to understand BPD's read on Poyser so I could read BPD which I followed up on the next day. I believed Poyser wasn't mafia. and the last post you quoted was agreeing on CP's point arguing against what I initially said. so it wasn't about not liking lethal at all lol its the opposite.

I didn't have the same sentiment as ultra on aurelian so more of the same here really. obviously people tried to lynch ultra the previous day but at this stage in the day phase nobody had mentioned wanting to lynch him. the reasons to suspect ultra 'out of nowhere' came because I had read more of the thread.

not going to bother arguing every point because im getting bored of this but the point on yoshi was important, I just didn't believe pushing him at the time was important as I thought we'd get more from pushing ultra or BPD who were my other scum reads at the time.
i like these explanations. i could be wrong on u

could u go over why u prefered to just hammer ultra rather than wait for dalton to claim or push yoshi?
 
1. Lethal - I’ve been fairly sure since the beginning he was town, which is part of why I was happy to help halt his lynch. Pretty glad to say he was then regardless of the hider stuff but that just crystallises things.

3. Rugrat - Town town town

4. Phenom - Was a bit iffy on some of his reasons on the Ultra wagon, I know I relented slightly but don’t think part of the reasoning for a 1 shot hider being lynched is to ratify another player’s role.

6. Ekko - I believe he’s the vig chiefly for having a confirmed kill and secondly as his thought process regarding Tweet being scum made sense

8. RDK - think he’s town. He’s been super active and last time I played he told his team to bus him.

11. CraigPelton - Town. He also has a protective role which would make sense since scum will have two in the form of a roleblocker and the flipped BG.

13. Big Man - Haven’t noticed much either way. Made a good point on Yoshi, but also had a fair point on Ultra and before that he was sussing Lethal. Not disagreeing with the points obviously but Big Man has the ability to generate good thoughts either way. Pretty on the fence atm.

16. Evans - posts have been fine and made sense but haven’t done a deep dive. Lean town.

17. Dalton - I haven’t noticed him, but I hate hate hate hate being accused in part of a wagon he possibly would have been on. In fairness I don’t see a scum player sussing CP at the star of day. CP has more influence than him and is “confirmed”

18. Yoshi - Away for too long but has some ‘splaining to do

19. Doddsy - He does seem quite confused and like town Doddsy who is a lot less slick and organised than scum Doddsy.

23. Alco - GrLiam has a hard on for gunsmiths. He loves them as much as he loves not shagging, Ruben Neves or mentioning he does BJJ.

The rest of the players I can’t think of much content for if I’m honest and the game is a lot for my dyslexic brain to read and recall as admittedly I have skimmed parts. 75 pages when I first checked the thread :hogansun:
so no scum reads lol? also the reasonings r really weak / not the reasonings id town read the players for
 
Yeah nah, I still don’t remotely town read you even with the vig claim cos that usage isn’t what I’d have done. Tweet, really? So many variables. You’ve tunnel sussed Haza and Evans frequently but no shot that way? This screams of wolf ekko baiting out the vig counter claim.

I don’t know if I was blocked. I know that I didn’t send anything though. You really are fishing good. TMI slip?
after reading the day, i may have to swap my read on u back to scum if u continue this actually
 
@Black Pegged Dragon

There is most likely a scum in this group.

Take out CP, ratchet, tweet, tpein out of the equation and you have

Rugrat, RDK, Alco, Phenom

Very high chance we have either one or 2 scum here. I should probably post my wallie before tho for it will make more sense as it is in my head.
I know, my man. Rugrat and RDK likely scum.
 
he wasn't my only scum read at the time though, I had 3. and I never displayed confidence on the read at all. I just didn't think the day phase was going anywhere else and I thought everybody had given their thoughts.
could u not have asked the rest if u shud hammer or not? ratchet was literally saying to wait he even unvoted lol
 
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