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I'm thinkingImp/Poyser/Dalton/RAEM for the scum team from most certain to least
Imp - made a show out of "reading T-Pein's past games" but had nothing to show for it. Did this a couple times, felt very much like weak distancing. Nothing inspiring about his game at all
Poyser - So something that pinged me on d1 which I mentioned a couple times is how over the top abusive poyser was in his interactions with t-pein but how he didn't really give substantive reasons to scum read him. He was on the wagon with me but was happy to swap to lethal when I did. In general he's deferred to me quite a bit this game. I actually did call him and T-PEin being scummates on d1 and I really think I was right. He probably tried and failed to kill me n1 tbh but it's also possible he killed TSworder because I town read him AND/OR to make Magic look bad. He did try to shade Magic with the n1 kill choices multiple times on d2.
Dalton - made a couple weak posts around T-Pein, namely saying he's null on him but "would be okay" with someone shooting him. Then you factor in how much Poyser backed up his defense of himself, definite team equity there. But less sure on this one than the other two admittedly. POE is pointing this way for me strongly tho
RAEM - he was dismissive of the T-Pein suspicion and tried to undermine me and Magic at multiple points throughout d1 after we were both voting T-Pein. He fell off hard d2 and there's just nothing about his game I'm town reading. He fits the team imo but this is the one I'm least sure on I'd say as he seems like a wacky individual
Some tertiary possibilities I would explore if any of the above turned out to be town, not necessarily in order:
Flower - not much to her game this game, I am town leaning her because her detachment and frustration feels kind of genuine but she has been very deferential to me as well even though I hadn't actually caught scum or anything yet prior to the t-pein flip. No solid raisin to really town read her at this junkture
Ultra - I actually do think he's town but despite some hard language towards t-pein he also seemed really hesitant to lynch him. The hime content d1 seemed fine but he fell off massively d2 and was very much on the sidelines while we lynched scum. Didn't really evolve his reads in any way once hime had disproven the crux of his case against her. Not great but kinda feel like he'd position himself better here as scum. Not scum with Hime
Evans- Was very one-track-minded on Ekko which gave him an excuse not to do much else, I'm not completely ruling out that the unprompted tracker claim was a fakebadtown move to appear town. Do lean town on him tho at this stage
Hime - Bit of a weird one as most of her d1 was about Ultra and she actually town read T-Pein but was then down to lynch him for pretty much all of d2 and very eager to do it at EOD. I'm buying her as town but not enough here for me to lock her in. Not scum with Ultra
Alco - So yeah iirc he was parked on T-Pein for a lot of d1 but then wanted to make Dalton his priority d2. Then only got back on T-Pein at the very end. I'll be honest I do town read him more than anyone else on this list but if Dalton flips town I would need to put him into POE. Probably not scum with Dalton but won't say definitively
Would not lynch without damning info (NOT provided in a lylo situation)
Lord Melkor - feels very town to me, had some good independent observations and seems serious about solving the game rather than just doing whatever people say. There was a lot I liked about his posts but can't remember specifics rn
Aurelian - I feel like he just town derped with his claim and if Poyser is scum as I think then he is DEFINITELY town.
Nat - Feel like she definitely would have just lynched T-Pein with no complaints there as scum as she implied multiple times she would just vote whoever we asked her to earlier in the phase. The fact she was so obstinate and insistent on reading back and making the most of the day feels town in light of the T-Pein scum flip. Would have 100% vigged her if T-Pein flipped town
Magic - I don't really see him being so openly keen on just burying his teammate d1 and d2 as scum and also don't think the interactions between him and poyser are fake so if poyser is scum then magic is locked in town. If not, will have to reassess.
Psychic - Definitely think this is town psychic as I wouldn't say she's really struggling for content and she was very down to lynch t-pein d1 and d2. From my experience with her she's not super comfortable bussing and tends not to have as good a read on the game as scum as I think it would require for her to have positioned herself as well as she has this game.
Tweet - been vibing with him all game, poor team equity with T-Pein and Poyser, I'm just not seeing him as scum
Ekko - Don't see him as scum with T-Pein at all here plus I think he most likely did use a pro-town role on me. Also don't see him massively changing up his game like this after drawing scum.
Do you have some reason to believe there should have been more/less?Two kills?
No, just realized it was a silly moment. But I'm assuming one kill was by Melkor (vig) and the other was done in by scum.Do you have some reason to believe there should have been more/less?
I don't think so. Melkor was on Dalton before T-Pein, pretty sure he would've shot him. Didn't mention being sus of anyone else.No, just realized it was a silly moment. But I'm assuming one kill was by Melkor (vig) and the other was done in by scum.
What is your read of Magic off of T-Pein's flip?Imagine holding switching back to lethal after you against me lmao
Magic and you abandoned tpein, wagon was dead
Pretty sure I did give reasons for scum reading him more than once
Magic is scumWhat is your read of Magic off of T-Pein's flip?
Right herei am still game for lynching tpein btw
hes not gonna claim tho so not too much point spending the day there
Posted a pretty comprehensive poe here, was mostly just trying to get stuff done within there outside of tpein1. Ultra
2. Melkor
3. Aurelian
5. Nat
6. REM
7. CP
8. T-Pein
9. Magic
10. Psychic
11. Dalton
12. Alco
13. Hime
14. Flower
15. Ekko
16. Imposter
17. Evans
21. Tweet
I am probably about here
Flower just sheeped me because I'm the miller/she town reads mePosted a pretty comprehensive poe here, was mostly just trying to get stuff done within there outside of tpein
Will need to re read flowers posts because she was all in on lynching tpein yesterday but this was after she tried lynching ultra so I might have been being too generous to say they’re probably not aligned. Can’t remember what she was saying about tpein on d1
do you think Nat makes the play she did at EOD if she's T-Pein's scummate?Posted a pretty comprehensive poe here, was mostly just trying to get stuff done within there outside of tpein
Will need to re read flowers posts because she was all in on lynching tpein yesterday but this was after she tried lynching ultra so I might have been being too generous to say they’re probably not aligned. Can’t remember what she was saying about tpein on d1