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Game Elden Ring Mafia

The X

Marvelous
I literally just didn't hammer ultra.
He is either my scummate or I am town trying to get my scum read lyched.
Learn.
But you did say you'd vote for Ultra if he didn't play ball! We still don't have a confirmation on who he will target.
 

Dalton

Distinguished
Can you quote me where I said it was outside the realm of possibility that his target would die please? Ultra has been one vote away, being caught scum after another scum gets caught isn't all that big a deal given he would know he is probbaly going to get killed sooner or later.
You've been asking about the logic as if you don't think it exists.

And of course scum Ultra isn't going to actively ask us to pick targets if he thinks he can get away with picking a legit townie himself. it would increase his chance of survival.

You seem to be looking at this from the perspective of "He's dead soon anyway, so what's the point trying to fight to stay alive." I don't think that's the mentality he'd have as scum here.
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
Moderator
I hadn't really been worried about Ultra until this interaction but it was just so inherently untowny.

He tries to discredit a player entirely instead of actually showing any interest in their play.

As town you would want to encourage activity and input from everyone but here he basically attempts to destroy rugrats growing thread presence in a hostile manner.

I missed a quote here but he tells Rugrat to "go back to lurkerland"

Not only is this not a pro-town thing to say, it's actually also bad because it kind of validates rugrats feelings as being real and not coming from a place of scum.

If he hates what rugrat is doing enough to tell him to fuck off, why isn't he probing him on it or suspecting him for it?

..This player is *rugrat*. what the fuck is this post
 

Ratchet

Moderator
Moderator
You've been asking about the logic as if you don't think it exists.

And of course scum Ultra isn't going to actively ask us to pick targets if he thinks he can get away with picking a legit townie himself. it would increase his chance of survival.

You seem to be looking at this from the perspective of "He's dead soon anyway, so what's the point trying to fight to stay alive." I don't think that's the mentality he'd have as scum here.
That's not my viewpoint. Your contention is if we pick a target for him and he's a scum buddy of Ultra's, if that target, after being "cleared" gets killed Ultra ends up caught. Ultra is virtually caught anyway, so being confirmed scum is not all that worse off, whereas at least now he gets more goes out of his role.
 

Dalton

Distinguished
That's not my viewpoint. Your contention is if we pick a target for him and he's a scum buddy of Ultra's, if that target, after being "cleared" gets killed Ultra ends up caught. Ultra is virtually caught anyway, so being confirmed scum is not all that worse off, whereas at least now he gets more goes out of his role.
I don't think Ultra is "virtually caught" - I've seen people survive this sort of thing for quite a bit. That's I think where our difference is here. I don't think Ultra thinks he's done.
 

T-Pein™

The Nexus
Pronouns
They/Them
I hadn't really been worried about Ultra until this interaction but it was just so inherently untowny.

He tries to discredit a player entirely instead of actually showing any interest in their play.

As town you would want to encourage activity and input from everyone but here he basically attempts to destroy rugrats growing thread presence in a hostile manner.

I missed a quote here but he tells Rugrat to "go back to lurkerland"

Not only is this not a pro-town thing to say, it's actually also bad because it kind of validates rugrats feelings as being real and not coming from a place of scum.

If he hates what rugrat is doing enough to tell him to fuck off, why isn't he probing him on it or suspecting him for it?

Yeh things like this make me like him less and less.
He just throwing shade at the top counter wagon?
 

Ratchet

Moderator
Moderator
I don't think Ultra is "virtually caught" - I've seen people survive this sort of thing for quite a bit. That's I think where our difference is here. I don't think Ultra thinks he's done.
He was 1 vote from being lynched - any pretentious he may have had of going deep are long over.
 
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