Dalton
Distinguished
BLD posted a deep dive on the voting and you were like second vote on Aurelian to start, then towards the end of the day (presumably when Aurelian claimed to be indy), you moved off.
Iirc his usage was good.
But you're right, he's definitely in POE still particularly with lethal flipping town - we've been hoodwinked in some capacity and everyone who isnt clear to me (Ekko, Retro on play) is under my microscope
Arp Bladstrum
Illustrious
Quite simply I was asked to vote Lethal by BPD a warrior I had come to trust over the past days so despite my misgivings my I did, I wasn't caught up with the thread and didn't realise it was the hammer.
i would call that the worst case scenario but its actually worse than i thought it could possibly be.
ekko did you lie to use about having an extra shot? its either that or the serpent shot again.
this game has just blown wide open:
a) BLD pushing so hard on the lethal lynch looks awful
b) Arp hammering is filthy
c) Evans still looking scummy.
BLD who do you want to lynch today?
Arp explain yourself
Evans
Acclaimed
It’d be worth checking the time of the phase. I’d counter and repeat myself here that I committed to the lynch and didn’t follow the CFD onto Tweet. I was pretty committed in saying I thought he was lying about his wincon and wanted him gone
Evans
Acclaimed
4. Phenom
5. Retrolize
6. Ekko
15. Arp Bladstrum
17. Dalton
20. Black Legged Dragon
This is my POE tbh.
Ekko moving into a town lead role over the last few phases has settled me on him. There’s still a little itch that says my gut was right on him, but I was pretty wrong on Lethal and Ultra.
I like Daltons play, clear thought process even if I disagree with the reads on me lol and I’m happy to maintain my read on BPD.
N0m should be our first port of call as I don’t see town having two near identical roles like that. Was his usage confirmed @Dalton?
Id go Arp over Retro as we haven’t had a BG flip for town, so the seraph claim fits
5. Retrolize
6. Ekko
15. Arp Bladstrum
17. Dalton
20. Black Legged Dragon
This is my POE tbh.
Ekko moving into a town lead role over the last few phases has settled me on him. There’s still a little itch that says my gut was right on him, but I was pretty wrong on Lethal and Ultra.
I like Daltons play, clear thought process even if I disagree with the reads on me lol and I’m happy to maintain my read on BPD.
N0m should be our first port of call as I don’t see town having two near identical roles like that. Was his usage confirmed @Dalton?
Id go Arp over Retro as we haven’t had a BG flip for town, so the seraph claim fits
hmmmm
cannot tell what happened here
but i might
why does committing on a lynch target in this case matter?
why say the above and then appeal to the logic behind gut reads:
Dalton
Distinguished
tbh im getting paranoid about bpd now. see the bolded above post, it reeks of BPD trying to set up a double mislynch.
Add to that that Doddsy's role is just as true about BPD as it was about Lethal (in terms of being able to fake clear them) and BPD should be firmly back on the table imo.
Hell, BPD was pretty heavily sussed until the result on them came back.
okay so i think maybe my reaction posts from everyone currently alive pinged scum when i was browsing previously to see what's occurred, because all of what's occurred in these flips change literally everyone's reads considerably
either:
1. they're trying to pressure town into a paranoia play and are relying on me to perpetuate the assumption i am right about BPD, leading for me to push a case on him
or ekko because they're the two that i have struggled to trust so much these later phases
this theory makes sense because i was so adamant and suspicious about lethal being pushed over evans. unless i was entirely correct about BPD, this may be a play to just save evans or let dalton cruise by (ultra dogged him and he's had a fairly comfy thread position late game)
2. i actually *may", in fact, be correct about the BPD or ekko link
honestly, it reads to me like that could be the case, but my suspicions are disrupted by there being so many high stakes in this game
the idea of BPD openly trolling craig, making stupid bullshit up to appeal to my more paranoid nature as a "hey bb it's okay come here papa will hug you" and he's the equivalent of an eldritch abomination masterminding all this in plain sight is hysterical to me
now
here's something
the ball is in my court *if* these theories are true, i think
there is something about keeping me alive that has a lot of influence in the thread obviously
so yalls duty here, as scum and town alike, provide reasonings about what the funniest or incredibly riveting ending might be for this game
a mislynch, or a lynch on evans
or a mislynch on evans, or a lynch on scum!BPD
not the most likely scenario because that puts the the ball in scum's court, the funniest or most creative way
we play games the traditional way but im a bit of an outlier in this regard
i sense the scum team is really wanting to just complete at the finish line considering fang is on it, so it's entirely plausible with SK's help they're simply both using BPD as a diversion so i can essentially throw the game for town
either:
1. they're trying to pressure town into a paranoia play and are relying on me to perpetuate the assumption i am right about BPD, leading for me to push a case on him
or ekko because they're the two that i have struggled to trust so much these later phases
this theory makes sense because i was so adamant and suspicious about lethal being pushed over evans. unless i was entirely correct about BPD, this may be a play to just save evans or let dalton cruise by (ultra dogged him and he's had a fairly comfy thread position late game)
2. i actually *may", in fact, be correct about the BPD or ekko link
honestly, it reads to me like that could be the case, but my suspicions are disrupted by there being so many high stakes in this game
the idea of BPD openly trolling craig, making stupid bullshit up to appeal to my more paranoid nature as a "hey bb it's okay come here papa will hug you" and he's the equivalent of an eldritch abomination masterminding all this in plain sight is hysterical to me
now
here's something
the ball is in my court *if* these theories are true, i think
there is something about keeping me alive that has a lot of influence in the thread obviously
so yalls duty here, as scum and town alike, provide reasonings about what the funniest or incredibly riveting ending might be for this game
a mislynch, or a lynch on evans
or a mislynch on evans, or a lynch on scum!BPD
not the most likely scenario because that puts the the ball in scum's court, the funniest or most creative way
we play games the traditional way but im a bit of an outlier in this regard
i sense the scum team is really wanting to just complete at the finish line considering fang is on it, so it's entirely plausible with SK's help they're simply both using BPD as a diversion so i can essentially throw the game for town
the spoopy reaction from me also may have pinged BPD, lmao
(this is what i mean by waltzing - a sycnhonized psychological dance)
im doing thinkies but thinkies make brain go brrr
(this is what i mean by waltzing - a sycnhonized psychological dance)
im doing thinkies but thinkies make brain go brrr
Dalton
Distinguished
i cant remember, and that worries me.
Feel like Phenom has had an easy pass recently and it has been powered in part by BLD wanting lethal/evans (i wanted it to but im now feeling like ive been manipulated towards it a bit lol).
Dalton
Distinguished
im a bit lost by this post but
1) I've been townread by too many people still alive for it to be a scum tactic (not to mention Doddsy and I are the best bussers ever if we're teammates lol).
2) BPD and Ekko basically cant be co-scum because if Ekko is scum i've almost certainly faked my report on him, which makes me scum too. Unless you think its possible scum shot Tweet, or that there's 3 scum remaining, lol.
i didn't say they were co-scum, i was trying to say they're "probable" scum flips
also, do we think that serpent is a fake WU?
also, do we think that serpent is a fake WU?
The X
Marvelous
Yeah this was definitely worse case scenario and I'm not happy about it. However, these are the consequences when someone like Lethal is allowed to play town like he does. That slot reeked to high heaven and he did nothing to help that.
i would call that the worst case scenario but its actually worse than i thought it could possibly be.
ekko did you lie to use about having an extra shot? its either that or the serpent shot again.
this game has just blown wide open:
a) BLD pushing so hard on the lethal lynch looks awful
b) Arp hammering is filthy
c) Evans still looking scummy.
BLD who do you want to lynch today?
Arp explain yourself
A) I've made some pretty big wrong pushes this game. I don't think the Lethal lynch looks awful because he played awful. However, I still bare responsibility for a mislynch. Does it feel like scum making a desperate push or town just earnestly wrong?
B) I'd say this is pretty bad. He popped in around EOD and said he'd prefer Evans over Big Man, so he was in thread when we were discussing who should hammer. He also hosted voted randomly without acknowledging that I had asked him or that was why he was voting.
C) Evans is still scummy but now other names also need to be considered. I'd say Evans is still the leading choice but it's not that simply anymore.
I still think Evans looks bad. Arp stealing runes and being vanilla is mad paranoia. And I still have a suspicious feeling about Phenom.
this may track tho lol
ekko targeted him twice
what im trying to say is there's power in the scum!BPD or scum!ekko theory
and those particular things have derailed reads (no thanks to me) that scum is using to their advantage
i wouldn't know the team dynamics and where an ekko/BPD partnership fits in
The X
Marvelous
You were came in and posted when we were discussing who should hammer, though. Blind trusting me at that point seems weird.
What runes did you get?
if ur town and its an elaborate frame job, try to not troll so much lmao
The X
Marvelous
It's not me trying to setup a double mislynch, it's me being confident Lethal was scum and being right at the finishing line. Obviously that was naive and it's not as simple as voting Evans anymore.
I wasn't heavily sussed when the result came back on me. The only two people that really sussed me hard this game was Poyser and Craig.
Dalton
Distinguished
ok fair, i will reiterate that i can basically clear ekko so im not gonna buy into him being prbable tho
I'm split - I just don't see who could be the serpent tbh, but it seems bastard to mention it if it doesnt exist.
a) A lot of us were on the lethal bandwagon so there can't be too much criticism there. See my later post about your potentially setting up a double-mislynch. i'd like to hear your thoughts on that.
b) Tbh I lean towards Arp not having the balls to make that sort of play. But it definitely is whack and he's not getting a free pass for it ito where he sits in POE.
c) Could you outline the case against Evans' voting patterns arround aurelian again? This time, however, highlighting when aurelian claimed relative to when Evans switched his vote. I'd do it but im lazy
re phenom: He's definitely someone who seems to be slinking under the radar a bit easily for my liking. With the lethal/evans final scummember angle being proven false, he is someone who could easily be someone who has slunk under the radar - not to mention the point Evans has made about him seemingly being the same role as CP
The X
Marvelous
I think scum has left you around because there are higher priority kills to be made. I don't think you've been a threat via game play or ability usage.