Game Elden Ring Mafia

[Dr. Watson]

Okay, I'm trying to do productive stuff and Ekko and Retro you're bogging me down with silly things.

gomen

 

[Dr. Watson]

imma zip it, later lmao

 

[The X]

@Evans I see you rating. Do you have anything for us?

 

[Dalton]

for awhile. i have been patient because he is *solving*. but my patience have a limit

btw everyone unvote please until I have reread day 1 and 2

we r lynching BPD or evans today. absolutely no other option on the table

im with you and leaning evans, BPD is a back-and-forth one for me cos parts are suss but there's also good justification for him being town like the fact that if he's scum he's making some ballsy plays.

yeah, I'm mainly worried about feeling like gramma is being disrespected so I probsbly should've cleared it with him to be 100% on the safe side but I made sure to read back and look at the claim role

nah if you didnt copy paste but rather paraphrased you'll be fine

 

[Emil]

BPD:

> pushed a CFD on RDK when he was asleep. pivoted to rugrat instead of doddsy when RDK woke up
> has considered that SK's claim confirms doddsy's claim and started a wagon on phenom mindlessly when lethal found out about the contradiction in phenom's claim that could be easily be explained by cp jailing phenom
> preferred lethal lynch over doddsy last day because doddsy *healed him*
> considering phenom's direction before I enter the thread today instead of evans
> scum reads lethal and asks for hammer but does not like arp's hammer vote? how does this make sense?

here is what I think. phenom and arp will be mislynch fodder. we need BLD and evans dead.

 

[Dalton]

Okay, but have Doddsy and I been distancing the ENTIRE game?

Yeah, I said maybe he was and then went to my next wolf read. Then Soul started talking more and there were all kinds of holes in his claim. Just like Fang. I went back to Soul in the middle of that wagon after there were things in his claim I just couldn't believe. The fact that we're still discussing Phenom today shows how tricky he might be and I think me being wary back then wasn't the wrong move.

I did not play around with Doddsy's claim. I got 'deathflamed' and then I got healed. I was going through a bit of a mindfuck last day and kudos scum for that move. But I got back on the Doddsy wagon and was optimal to getting him lynched. Considering how Lethal played and how he got voted D7, me going after him D6 is hardly shocking.

I keep forgetting how long you agreed with me on Doddsy

ugh

yeah i wanna lynch evans today

Vote Evans

unvote, we can do this once we're certain.

The fact that Doddsy healing me has created this much confusion among town shows that it was a good move.

i guess

WS games always catch me offgurad with the amount of scums. I'm working with worst case scenario 3 left

btw how come u r 2 shots but flowa and alco and me are 3 shots

its gramma, do you think he's gonna give every x-shot the same number shots?

I'm confident I have fewer because he wanted a certain number (seemingly 5) between me and tiara.

if gramma prefers balancing games, would he also add a "loved" townie modifier to the mix?

no, this is the exact sort of 'balancing' he doesnt like.

Its about making sure there aren't unfair imbalances in certain areas without rigidly giving traditional/logical counters.

He hates us solving based on simple role spec so wouldn't just make everything 'give town the inverse to scum'

 

[Dalton]

BPD:

> pushed a CFD on RDK when he was asleep. pivoted to rugrat instead of doddsy when RDK woke up
> has considered that SK's claim confirms doddsy's claim and started a wagon on phenom mindlessly when lethal found out about the contradiction in phenom's claim that could be easily be explained by cp jailing phenom
> preferred lethal lynch over doddsy last day because doddsy *healed him*
> considering phenom's direction before I enter the thread today instead of evans
> scum reads lethal and asks for hammer but does not like arp's hammer vote? how does this make sense?

here is what I think. phenom and arp will be mislynch fodder. we need BLD and evans dead.

last point is easy to explain away - we wanted the hammer to be for a trusted townie and he saw himself as one but was happy to oblige when i said i trusted you more.

i wanna vote evans today, BLD is a weird slot and i want max info tomorrow to know whether he's evans partner.

 

[Emil]

BLD in order for u to live u have to bus teammates, but I think the town have already established itself now. u shud not be able to find anymore mislynches

town:
dalton
pelosi
phenom
me

potential indie - arp. or just town. i can see dalton being an indie as well, maybe even phenom, but I don't see them as mafia.

scum:
BPD
evans
maybe throw in arp/phenom for last wolf/indie if game doesn't end with those 2

 

[Evans]

If you’ve got direct questions for me, I’d love to hear them.

I don’t what else to say other than my role is confirmed, I’m town and I’ve repeated my claim plenty.

I think phen0m is mostly likely scum here based on what I’ve previously said then Arp.

It’s definitely OMGUS but BPD now calling me scum with receipts when he’s been calling me town for those exact things all day is hilarious

 

[Dr. Watson]

He hates us solving based on simple role spec so wouldn't just make everything 'give town the inverse to scum'

gotchu

ty

 

[Dalton]

BLD in order for u to live u have to bus teammates, but I think the town have already established itself now. u shud not be able to find anymore mislynches

town:
dalton
pelosi
phenom
me

potential indie - arp. or just town. i can see dalton being an indie as well, maybe even phenom, but I don't see them as mafia.

scum:
BPD
evans
maybe throw in arp/phenom for last wolf/indie if game doesn't end with those 2

this is mostly where my head is at, except i'd structure it like below (in order from most townish to most scummy:

TOWN:
dalton
ekko
retro

POE
arp
phenom
BPD


SCUM
evans

that POE is mindfucking me tho

 

[Emil]

this is mostly where my head is at, except i'd structure it like below (in order from most townish to most scummy:

TOWN:
dalton
ekko
retro

POE
arp
phenom
BPD


SCUM
evans

that POE is mindfucking me tho

lets do a day 1 and 2 reread I'm on it

 

[Dalton]

If you’ve got direct questions for me, I’d love to hear them.

I don’t what else to say other than my role is confirmed, I’m town and I’ve repeated my claim plenty.

I think phen0m is mostly likely scum here based on what I’ve previously said then Arp.

It’s definitely OMGUS but BPD now calling me scum with receipts when he’s been calling me town for those exact things all day is hilarious

problem with what you say is that while your role is seemingly confirmed, it does nothing at all for your alignment.

The fact that you keep focusing on your role and not on your alignment seems like a focused tactic to shade phenom for having a similar role to CP.

Problem is you've ignored me despite being a tracker when watcher has flipped which makes me thing you're just hunting a scapegoat to get through today and thought phenom was low-hanging fruit.

im happy to vote Evans

 

[Dalton]

unvote evans

i'll indulge the d1/d2 reread

 

[The X]

Bet. Vote: Aurelian

Phenom didn't do a lot of posting in D1 and when asked who he should vote for, voted Fang after Tpein told him to. Didn't move the vote but didn't come back either. This was a bit later in the wagon.

Vote: Tweet

Happy to support before i disappear for work. Should (keyword being should) have time to look over Aurelian’s posts / interactions tonight. Prepare for a GOATnom appearance.

Decides to focus on Fang's interactions in D1. I don't mind that idea, but he comes back with a lot of town reads.

Quick glance into the start of Aurelian’s posts. RDK most likely town.

Right.

Want to say that Yoshi not aligned with Aurelian either. Dont think they’d be comfortable quickly aligning themselves with a teammate in the thread saying that they don’t see anything scummy about what Aurelian posted and calling RDK sus for his push on him.

Right,.

The smoke’s going to be from how much I’m cooking scum. Bought to BBQ they ass.

Back from dad duty, back into the Aurelian portal I go.

okay yeah Aurelian went after Yoshi, I’m comfortable town reading them.

Not sure why this needed to be doubled down on?

My first post about Yoshi was about his play towards Aurelian, that was me firming up the read based on Aurelian’s post. Keep up and let me work.

His response to me calling him out.

Ratchet voting Aurelian after that long ass post after he came back and seemingly his wagon had softened gets him some town points. Don’t know a teammate gets that train back in motion.

Right on Ratchet.

That seems like a supremely inopportune time to do it if so plus I’m reading over Aurelian’s posts going back at Ratchet that feels like genuine malice to me.

Ratchet again.

So normally these Ekko/Aurelian exchanges I’m seeing i would think are way too out in the open to be scum/scum but Ekko duped me last game doing something I wouldn’t expect him to. Trying to be open minded about it, can see him trying to help Aurelian work through the lynch pressure in thread to get out of it. The constant mentions of him being close to a lynch, coaxing him into the partial claim to satisfy people and then the Indy spec seem like a progression to angle towards pressure coming off him. Ekko is my first scum lean coming out of this look back.

Interesting. When Poyser tried to talk him out of sussing Ekko, this is his response. I don't think Ekko was a bold or hard choice considering his play around Fang.

Feel free to expand on this. You’re not under suspicion are you? Am I your low hanging fruit to go after with a low post count? Because you seem to have a comment on everything I’m doing and it’s coming off a little obsessive ngl. :hayden3

This was him giving me a slight OMGUS. Kind of interesting Doddsy came after me too...

Lotttaaa flavor speculation talk in this area of the thread I’m in. Doddsy involved here and only talking about flavor and Indy stuff and from the posts I’ve stumbled upon of his, doesn’t seem like he’s pushing much. Not getting butterflies from him but will see if anything changes later.

Comments on Doddsy, but does not say much at all. Remember, Doddsy as GF is going to be a hard mountain to move.

Liking TPein. Feels dirty to post that

Right on Tpein.

Ultra feels good off of Aurelian post as well.

Right on Ultra.

I’m exhausted. Off the Aurelian post search and review, feel good about RDK, Yoshi, Ratchet, Pein and Ultra. Want to check Doddsy’s other posts cuz the flavor spec and not pushing anything raised red flags. Poyser obviously fully claimed Indy and from the bits of recent posts i see, that seems to be accepted. My want is to vote Ekko based on the targeted read back alone but want to know where we are at.

Anyone feel like sharing the current situation without being a Dick? I see lethals mentioned a lot, seems like BLD has some votes according to him as well.

Wow 5/5 on his town reads simply from the interactions with Fang. That is impressive. Does talk about Doddsy raising red flags, so that is a good sign. Does show mention my name here as well. Hmmm.

I hope there’s decent reasoning for the lethal wagon. I just saw that’s the leading wagon.

Right on Lethal.

Doddsy’s earlier posts don’t ping me as much, at least made a read and his recent post looked game related so I’ll leave him be for now. i always have issues reading him




You’re the real MVP

Ah, says Doddsy doesn't ping him as much, which is a big difference from red flags. Weird those red flags came away with nothing. Does admit he has trouble reading him. Honest or an excuse?

I like and appreciate Ultra’s effort there on Lethal. The end of day vote jumping doesn’t shock me at all though nor the abundance of reads and leaps to scum pairings as that’s just what I expect of him lol. I actually like he wanted to go for Ekko too on D1 and I feel like Ekko is aligned with Aurelian so based on that i can’t see Lethal aligned with them both. Don’t know that I vote that direction sorry folks.

Vote: Ekko

Kind of easy vote.

Tried to do a quick peruse through. Sad to see I am still the lone representative on Ekko despite i think seeing numerous people share my sentiment on him.

Unvote

The Ultra wagon being ahead of Lethal now in this short order is very interesting. I leaned town on him simply based on Aurelian’s posts so not caught up on what he’s done to be able to garner this wagon. Someone can let me know or I suppose i can try to look. A claim would be helpful at this point given time left in day though.

Tough pickle.

A very comprehensive case from Ratchet on Ultra Very fine with his direction right now.

@Ultra you should come claim scum boi. Times ticking.

Phenom never does vote for Ultra D2, but does on D3.

Wait I was on his scum list?! I gotta go see if i had even posted because lmao

Ultra sussing Phenom.

So i definitely had posted. I had popped in and asked what’s going on, had my back and forth with RDK and then voted Aurelian when Pein said that was the direction. So there were posts to make a read off of or comment on but he literally never acknowledged me or mentioned me prior to putting me in the scum pile on his reads list.

I mean, this could be fake, because Phenom was clearly bringing attention to his iso of Fang. One does not need to acknowledge or interact with them to find them suss.

Vote Count and time left in day? @Grammaton

I’m voting Ultra in spirit but with day dwindling I may need to put the actual vote down.

Seemed content with a no lynch.

Fair enough. Saw he wanted Ekko lynched too and was like ehhh don’t know how i feel now if he’s still scum read.

So I’ll admit that normally I’d agree with you regarding Ekko. My recency bias with him winning Xmas mafia after being as bold and open in the thread as he was is where I’m drawing the link between the two. Idk if that’s a case of not wanting to be fooled twice or if I’m honed in on him but I definitely see merit in his push at this moment.

Sorry, I think this is Poyser trying to talk him out of an Ekko vote.

I was trying to say “don’t like this” with my gif but it didn’t work. Why immediately to Lethal? Shouldn’t we assess those who pushed Ultra as the counter wagon?

Okay, so he's sitting on the fence with Ultra, but then suggests we should look at Ultra pushers instead of Lethal. I am curious that if Phenom and Doddsy were mates, maybe they planned to interact with Lethal in a way that made him look like a partner.

Im not saying we let Lethal walk but like maybe we explore those who shifted the wagon too before we work in definitive “we’re going for Lethal next day.” Is all I’m saying.

Im not saying he’s town btw, I can see him resolving either way. My initial reaction to him D1, although a weak reason, was towny but we’re a long way from that. My not wanting to vote him this phase strictly comes from me not seeing him aligned with both Aurelian and Ekko, who I’m currently reading scum.

Lethal defense.

I will also say it’d be nice for scum to take out Poyser. I’d prefer the vig shoot for scum but if they have an extra bullet, go ahead and get him gone. Don’t need Indy’s running around here.

Wants Poyser gone. NAI but interesting to note.


First part of my Phenom iso.

 

[The X]

BPD:

> pushed a CFD on RDK when he was asleep. pivoted to rugrat instead of doddsy when RDK woke up
> has considered that SK's claim confirms doddsy's claim and started a wagon on phenom mindlessly when lethal found out about the contradiction in phenom's claim that could be easily be explained by cp jailing phenom
> preferred lethal lynch over doddsy last day because doddsy *healed him*
> considering phenom's direction before I enter the thread today instead of evans
> scum reads lethal and asks for hammer but does not like arp's hammer vote? how does this make sense?

here is what I think. phenom and arp will be mislynch fodder. we need BLD and evans dead.

How about you pull up all my town points this game? I guarantee you if pull up all the wrong shit we've done in this game, you could do one for every player like this. You're getting your blinders on and I hate it.

 

[Emil]

How about you pull up all my town points this game? I guarantee you if pull up all the wrong shit we've done in this game, you could do one for every player like this. You're getting your blinders on and I hate it.

whats ur end game here. evans then what?

 

[Dalton]

Shwmae

:mj2

It’s the language of Wales

*queues For Whom The Bell Tolls*

Would you prefer the Chevy avatar when I was planning for war?

lots of fluff from evans to start the day. which i dont particularly associate with town evans, who would if anything fluff about the game.

Do you think Lethal could be playing a bit more arrogantly as a new member joining alongside the “main eventers” and not knowing peoples abilities here?

I think seeing how he grows into the thread will be something to look out for. As he’s disappeared as the games started actively posting.

random half-hearted shade for lethal. busywork.

Whilst not a sus or a tunnel (yet ), these stand out to me as they’re very opposite ends of the scale

this was a decent point at the time tbf. but also pretty safe.

defo scum

shades me avatar for being Chevy whilst my names Evans

has his avatar as Lethal but no Sasha Banks!

At first I thought he was afraid of telling a new community he’s a wrestling fan

Spoilers

back to fluff

It’s just something that stood out :draper

I get the logic, but I’d be quick to discount it being alignment indicative at all. PMs went out last night. Chats could have been made last night too. Lethals also confirmed to be watching WK which started at 8am UK time which also doesn’t mean anything alignment wise but creates plenty of opportunity for team familiarisation.

See, I agree with all of this. Especially that second paragraph. The bold bit, reads to me what he’s done thus far in the thread.

He basically parroted the “better to be live than catching up” and agreed with statement that he joined with the tag.

I haven’t seen anything any of the arrogant town Lethal who bum rushes Day 1 start. But I haven’t played with him in forever so this might not be a thing anymore

a lot of random focus on the poyser thing but no actual conviction = busywork. note all of the hedging - "i'd be quick to discount it being alignment indicative at all" "but i havent played with him in forver so this might not be a thing anymore."

Got my shovel ready to start digging

more fluff

It’s in reference to a tag on a Discord server we’re all in saying the game was live fwiw

semi-fluff.

I’m nowhere near a scum read on Lethal. I’ve just disagreed with the soft town lean as I think his behaviour thus far has been very non alignment indicative.

I think he’s had easy things put on the plate for him such as being able to agree he didn’t join the thread until the tag.

more hedging - seems like he's not enjoying the immediate attention.

vote: Evans

his first post regarding lethal arrogance seemed weird (I didn't really get it) and then he showed a bit of fear when questioning poyser on his read by clarifying to the thread that it wasn't any sort of scum read. Why do that?

decent place to start id say

this, evans came in with busy work and then got scared when people called him out on what he was saying.

I don’t see any issue at all with understanding how someone got to a conclusion but disagreeing with the end result.

more hedging.

Further to this, the stage of the game and the context is brings is very important too. Creating discussion is a vital part of early game. I saw something I wanted to discuss and went for it. This has helped push the game on from the fluff posts.

and then finally, talks about pusing past fluff and creating discussion - but he's a big offender when it comes to fluff so far.

This was all in the first 100 posts or so. I'm realising there's nfw i'm gonna go through it all tlike this but will do a skim to see if anything else stands out.

 

[Evans]

Lots of fluff is now defined as less than 10 posts.

 

[The X]

BPD:

> pushed a CFD on RDK when he was asleep. pivoted to rugrat instead of doddsy when RDK woke up
> has considered that SK's claim confirms doddsy's claim and started a wagon on phenom mindlessly when lethal found out about the contradiction in phenom's claim that could be easily be explained by cp jailing phenom
> preferred lethal lynch over doddsy last day because doddsy *healed him*
> considering phenom's direction before I enter the thread today instead of evans
> scum reads lethal and asks for hammer but does not like arp's hammer vote? how does this make sense?

here is what I think. phenom and arp will be mislynch fodder. we need BLD and evans dead.

1. Bro, we both sussed RDK and were WRONG about him. Sleeping or not, it was a CFD at EOD, so of course it's going to be fucky. And what was Rugrat?? Yeah he was SK, but there was a reason he was SUSS.

2. Of course I considered Soul's claim, just like you DEFENDED Fang's claim. There was no rush to hammer Soul and his claim fell apart the more he talked. I was sussing Phenom at that time and wanted to start there. The fact that I thought he got caught in a lie when he said he commuted me got me excited. The fact I was able to believe that maybe Craig jailed him and move my back to Soul should show I was thinking things through.

3. That's not true at all, Ekko. I was literally fine with either Doddsy and Lethal but thought maybe I could get out of DEATH if we lynched Lethal. Once I was healed, my vote went back onto Doddsy. So this point is just completely false.

4. Again, not true at all. Evans is still leading, but I think you are severely underestimating Phenom as well. I don't think it's wrong to consider the options here since we've been WRONG about this game.

5. Ekko, what the fuck are you doing? YOU also said that Arp's hammer was gross. So did Dalton. Of course it was sussy. But then I realized the runes were destroyed so it didn't matter who hammered me.


Like man, how the fuck are you sussing me for some of this shit when you've done the exact same in this game? Ekko, you're going to lose us the fucking game here.