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Lethal said:
Yeah I let emotions get the better of me. Now I've chilled, you can see I've attempted to solve with Ultra, Yoshi & Ekko, as well as hitting back at the cases presented by Dragon & ultra on me (Ultra's case looks incredibly forced, piggy backing off of Dragon's).



He's got 4 votes? Feels like open wolfing here.



He looks bad around you, absolutely. I think his building a case on me filled him with an aura of confidence and he's trying to overtly solve the game and looking for things that aren't there. He's sorta mellowing out because you're a lot stronger at knocking people down a few pegs (pun intended).

Same again with CP - he took a silly issue with CP claiming to have stopped all kills last night and made a mountain out of a molehill, due to the aura of confidence from the large case he'd made on me. I'd have to look at the CP case again to see exactly what's happening there (like, is he trying to paint CP in a bad light like he did me) but also not wanting to answer for CP cos he's doing well enough on his own.
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I wrote both my cases of you and Craig during N1, I just posted them at different times in thread. So I didn't build up any false confidence with you and then move onto Craig. Also, Craig claimed after I made my case, so you saying I made a mountain out of a mole hill is not true.

Also hilarious you think Poyser had any affect on my play. My friend Ratchet-kun made a post asking me to rationalize a bit better so I decided that's what I would do because letting emotions run high won't help game solve at all. It's arrogant little snipes like this that make it hard to believe you're being earnest and pure.
 
Ratchet said:
I broadly understand, but if the points I am raising stand up to reason, then even if you thought I was scum, they would still stand, no? Granted the case I would be making on Ultra as scum would probably be more manipulative, but you see my point here. And again, really I think the fact I broadcast that this was coming well in advance (maybe even in my first post today) supports the idea that I at least had this ready before the wagon on Lethal was formed (making it less likely to be a defence).
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Yes of course, Ratchet. I think your case on Ultra was made in good faith.

What happens if you're wrong in Ultra?
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
Yes of course, Ratchet. I think your case on Ultra was made in good faith.

What happens if you're wrong in Ultra?
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I would have to rethink some of my town reads. Namely the likes of Doddsy. Not sure what I would do with T-Pein, current opinion is that nothing that I've brought up on Ultra turning out to be wrong would absolve him so I don't think I'd discard my read, but I would probably have to shelve it. I think I'd flip Ekko to scum reads and Retro probably just straight up Town.
 
Poyser said:
Got like 2 hours 20 min left I think
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Thanks. I was hoping for a claim but may need to hope the right outcome prevails.

Do you still think tweet is scum btw? I saw he wants to lynch Ekko too but know i voted him to start day. :heston
 
Ratchet said:
I would have to rethink some of my town reads. Namely the likes of Doddsy. Not sure what I would do with T-Pein, current opinion is that nothing that I've brought up on Ultra turning out to be wrong would absolve him so I don't think I'd discard my read, but I would probably have to shelve it. I think I'd flip Ekko to scum reads and Retro probably just straight up Town.
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If Ultra gets lynched and flips town, we'd go after Lethal, yeah?
 
Ratchet said:
It was from Day 1. After Evans returned to the thread.
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Thanks for clearing that up

Black Pegged Dragon said:
I wrote both my cases of you and Craig during N1, I just posted them at different times in thread. So I didn't build up any false confidence with you and then move onto Craig. Also, Craig claimed after I made my case, so you saying I made a mountain out of a mole hill is not true.

Also hilarious you think Poyser had any affect on my play. My friend Ratchet-kun made a post asking me to rationalize a bit better so I decided that's what I would do because letting emotions run high won't help game solve at all. It's arrogant little snipes like this that make it hard to believe you're being earnest and pure.
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- What I meant was you appeared to have been buoyed by the confidence in the case on me, and reaction to it, to then go for CP. Ok, I can accept I could have my timelines wrong.

- Again, fair. Ratchet has been very thorough and I agree, emotions being in check have helped with solving. I was not intending for my comment to convey arrogance or be a little snipe either, so apologies if that's what the impression is. But you can at least admit that Poyser has got you posting at length a lot more and you've been worked hard to answer his queries, no?
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
If Ultra gets lynched and flips town, we'd go after Lethal, yeah?
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I think Lethal would probably have to be flipped D3, but I wouldn't immediately go to scum reading him. I'd have to re-read with a hopefully fresh perspective. I think there are reasons to Town read Lethal that hold up independently of Ultra, but I would certainly have to rethink my positions.
 
Lethal said:
Thanks for clearing that up



- What I meant was you appeared to have been buoyed by the confidence in the case on me, and reaction to it, to then go for CP. Ok, I can accept I could have my timelines wrong.

- Again, fair. Ratchet has been very thorough and I agree, emotions being in check have helped with solving. I was not intending for my comment to convey arrogance or be a little snipe either, so apologies if that's what the impression is. But you can at least admit that Poyser has got you posting at length a lot more and you've been worked hard to answer his queries, no?
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I would say I usually post at length? Poyser has got me going a bit because I sincerely believe he is harmful to town and mucking things up for everyone. Pretty dismayed at how many players seem working with him as well. Feels like a dangerous game.
 
Ratchet said:
I think Lethal would probably have to be flipped D3, but I wouldn't immediately go to scum reading him. I'd have to re-read with a hopefully fresh perspective. I think there are reasons to Town read Lethal that hold up independently of Ultra, but I would certainly have to rethink my positions.
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What are the reasons to town read Lethal?
 
PHEN0M said:
Thanks. I was hoping for a claim but may need to hope the right outcome prevails.

Do you still think tweet is scum btw? I saw he wants to lynch Ekko too but know i voted him to start day. :heston
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I’m not sure. Originally I thought his reaction didn’t really feel like he was scum but then I remembered his emo tweet phase and I’d forgotten just because I’ve not seen it for a while but I’ve also not seen him as scum for a while. I think the merits of my original case still stand, and he sits firmly in my poe.

I don’t think I can really buy ekko’s play around Aurelian as a teammate interaction tho if I’m honest
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
What are the reasons to town read Lethal?
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Namely, his claim while not hard confirmation is fairly town leaning should it be proven, and viewing his posts under the mindset that his emotion is genuine it's pretty easy to reconcile them as town. Moreover, a majority of people familiar with him the most have come away with the impression that he is town - meta will only go so far, but it can't just be dismissed out of hand either.
 
Btw if ultra doesn’t show up here I’d advocate lynching him without a claim

if he’s scum here then the optimal tactic (unless he has a super strong fake claim) would be to duck the thread and hope people won’t commit to a lynch without a claim. It’s what I imagine most would do, so I don’t really want to let it happen
 
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