HuhI think tweet is likely town
poyser's read on lethal was meta based and meta reads r worthless anyway in the grand scheme of the game. its just a placeholder. i tend to agree that what lethal is doing is more NAI because
1. lethal just got scum read last game (1~2 weeks ago) for playing in his "scum meta". id think if he rolled scum here he would try to deliberately change it so he doesn't get caught for same reasons
2. lethal admittedly knows poyser can read him like a book for his scum meta. if he is approaching poyser as scum it wud need to be completely different approach than last game
expecting lethal to play the same way hes just got caught with last game is just saying he is a bad player and underestimating him so..
Yeah the bussing point was insane, obviously not aligned lolIt's not my job to scum read myself
Never disputed that, it's still a product of my work, there's been nothing lazy about my play today. You know that, you've seen me be lazy, this isn't it.
This is a quite desperate attempt to discredit some of my reads I think.
Made very transparant by your theory I'm bussing Aurelia.
Now if he is your teammate, you'll point to that, rather than give my reads any credit.
I'd let him go mate before more damage is done.
Not really he just made a generic statement. Is it even true? Pretty sure I’ve seen you push aggressively as scum beforeI think the meta he applied to his read of me showed that he was making a genuine attempt at reading me
My apologies Great Tweet I'm playing on mobile and it just shat itself whilst I was quoting.What about Soulkiller and I is making sense? Can you quote a few posts you liked?
Just one more thing I noticed during the readback, but this never got followed up.Perhaps cherry picking isn't the right word. But I feel like there's an opportunistic agenda behind your play.
To be fair to phenom, when im around I usually do just tell him what to doIt's not rude at all, you shouldn't expect us to do all the work and then spoon feed you the game when we don't even know which side you're batting for. I've no idea what you actually expected anyone to say why you asked what to do, you know what to do
As soon as you asked a meaningful question I gave you a quality answer
I think your position is fair, but we do have less than 10 hours left if I'm not mistaken. Or maybe around 10. I'm not with you regarding Retro, if anything I lean town on them, so is there any other player you'd like to discuss?still dont want to lynch him today tho, feels like a waste of scumhunting opportunity
Lmao i think I’m gonna like youOh well Mr 5 posts let me recant my case then
Dang, I'm really feeling this actually! Hence my post about there being an echo/Ekko. Feels like Ekko is snuggling up to Poyser hard which is a 180 from the previous game where he was scum and Poyser was town. A deliberate attempt to reverse his meta? What say you @Poyser ?
I'm actually getting the same vibe.
He also says Lethal is town, yet challenged Lethal about proving me right on my points against him. Then defended me against Ratchet.
Lame afI've return from work, I have only a few things to say and will leave it at that:
1. The people who have actually played multiple games with me would be Ekko, Ultra (to a lesser extent), and Retro, I've only ever played mafia with Ratchet, Ral, Yoshi, Soulkiller, a few times (Gogeta's DB mafia, the grand heist one Ekko did, the Nitty Favorites one last year, etc...); very few of you guys here actually know my 'meta' or anything like that at all, most of you simply don't know how I play mafia because this is our first time playing together.
2. The game started at 4am my time zone, I've literally seen people get jumped on even with IRL complications like school or work or holidays getting targeted because they weren't in the game "from the start" the host kicked things off and that's been my experience for years.
3. I don't generally role-claim in day 1 so its not going to happen here even if it means I'm going to get lynched for how weird this pivoted with RDK; also more baffling because I haven't been day 1'd a lynch focus or target in over years and years so this is a brand new experience. If you want to play the meta card here, you can ask Ekko's experience with me as either a host or a fellow player how I had a massive row with both Soul and especially Ratchet in mafia games. I remember the DB one where Ratchet kept throwing aspersions at me and that shadow of doubt being crept on despite him sniping Uzukage (Android 17/town) and then trying to night kill Vegeta as the scum purple team's godfather based off also past games being a factor. But simply put I do not have a restrictive or one-dimensional style if you want to play the scum or town roles; and this is an environment where I'm playing with fuckers who constitute the majority of the game I've never played with before so I don't know how they will react or if I should be more or less aggressive.
4. Just coming back from my work and seeing how much time has passed and barely anyone else addressing how weird and absolutely scummy it comes off with Yoshi flip-flopping so oddly between attacking RDK to defend me then going the inverse of that out of nowhere is something that bares noticing; it might mean nothing or might mean something but to my knowledge the only person whose made a note of this in particular was Ultra. Handwaving how Yoshi's bizarre display and behavior being so oddly schizophrenic and logic defying in its irrationality certainly would apply minimum watching on him, newbie player or not. Also bares mentioning that when I called out Yoshi claiming we're "mafia buddies" and explain on that shit further, he says nothing the rest of the game to address this.
5. I can be stubborn but I will maintain I never was in particular 'defensive' about anything with RDK, I explained myself, he pushes, I explain myself again. Maybe you guys from AFH have a really non-standard definition of what being defensive means because it doesn't link with Oxford definition. I explained this to Poyser who more or less has been as much of a substance-lacking cheerleader for this bandwagon at me as anyone else.
6. Going over what Ekko, Ultra, and Retrolize have said, there seems more to be a foregone and settled conclusion merely to satisfy a lynch is going to happen regardless of how it ended up, that being me in the crosshairs, by some of those who are pretty much coasting off jumping in. No rhyme, no rhythm, no reason; simply jumping into it.
7. Final point: I will repeat I will not role-claim. I will not role-hint on day 1, period. If I by some miracle survive this lynch, and for argument's sake, implicate I have a important town role then I have a dead man's mark on my head anyways for however the night phase plays out. Maybe getting role-crushed, maybe just getting killed and offed before the next day phase. There is legitimately nothing that would off-set scraping by surviving a lynch just to lose everything in the next phase by gambling it all to live 10-20 minutes later mechanically speaking. People role-fishing this early in the game are generally either hostile anti-town indies or outright scum/mafia because getting all the juicy ducks in a row for town to start discrediting for future misdirected lynches or killing off quite possibly the worst way to play the game if you are a valid townie.
If you want to say anything else to me or ask me why I shouldn't be lynched and Yoshi or someone else should be, feel free but my time is limited.
RDK is haza he is in my town reads thereYou didn't like RDK town reading T-Pein, but here you are town reading Arp who so far from where I am standing 11 pages in made no noticeable thing that warrant such read. T-Pein here actually does look better in retrospect.
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