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Poyser said:
Because his progression shows a clear agenda. Multiple times he has decided he wants to push someone, twisted facts to fit his narrative and then ignored any new info in order to keep pushing. Like he started out the day by trying to paint me as a wolf that tried to save Aurelian and even went as far as to quote an old vote count that was posted much earlier in day ti “prove that”. He got torn to shreds and then pivoted to it doesn’t matter where I ended up because the point is I tried to get votes away from him. Not once did he address multiple people bringing up the fact that I also was the one that destroyed Aurelian in thread and sent the wagon back to him. Then he dismissed this line of attack entirely and went with me being a “hostile indy” that shouldn’t be listened to

likewise his initial push of Cp was because CP went to cheekily bully yoshi into claiming and then changed his mind because he thought yoshi’s reaction seemed Town. He tried to paint this as a contradiction from cp without taking anything in between into account and never even acknowledged it despite CP explaining numerous times why he changed his mind. He then started going at cp for “buddying” me instead and even when cp claimed a role that is about 90% proven and if real then 99% town and ignored that to keep sussing him because it doesn’t fit the world he’s pushing

likewise he keeps pointing back to an old case against lethal and didn’t take lethals claim into account at all, instead just moved to discredit it without taking any kind of implications of the claim into account or why lethal would claim something that encourages Town to hammer him. He’s also just using the tact that “lethal is just responding with shit” to appeal to peoples desire to lynch somebody playing like that which is the lowest hanging fruit.

He’s literally accused every single person voting for him of being scum and OMGUSing him. Appealed to emotion by trying to paint it was WS vs WG despite the fact that’s nonsense and then tried to use Doddsy “voting along with a hostile indy” as some kinda gotcha even though it makes no sense.

I get that town are stubborn, but he has shown himself to be acting in bad faith consistently throughout the game and in all of his pushes
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I won't waste time responding the harmful indie in depth, but all of these points you think I've done something nefarious in I've explained multiple times and have tried to help others understand better. You've given that zero consideration. You keep acting like you've caught me and just sit on that.

Also, pretty hard to OMGUS someone when factually speaking the majority of my voters are all players I brought suss against FIRST.
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
I won't waste time responding the harmful indie in depth, but all of these points you think I've done something nefarious in I've explained multiple times and have tried to help others understand better. You've given that zero consideration. You keep acting like you've caught me and just sit on that.

Also, pretty hard to OMGUS someone when factually speaking the majority of my voters are all players I brought suss against FIRST.
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LMAO
“Please case me and give me something to respond to im begging you”
*cases you*
”I won’t waste time responding in depth”

embarrassing
 
Lethal said:
I'm never gonna live that down :/
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Poyser said:
I’m not sure. Originally I thought his reaction didn’t really feel like he was scum but then I remembered his emo tweet phase and I’d forgotten just because I’ve not seen it for a while but I’ve also not seen him as scum for a while. I think the merits of my original case still stand, and he sits firmly in my poe.

I don’t think I can really buy ekko’s play around Aurelian as a teammate interaction tho if I’m honest
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Fair enough. Saw he wanted Ekko lynched too and was like ehhh don’t know how i feel now if he’s still scum read.

So I’ll admit that normally I’d agree with you regarding Ekko. My recency bias with him winning Xmas mafia after being as bold and open in the thread as he was is where I’m drawing the link between the two. Idk if that’s a case of not wanting to be fooled twice or if I’m honed in on him but I definitely see merit in his push at this moment.
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
You are giving yourself way too much credit for that, my friend. Not sure how that means you're not harmful to town?
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You have literally zero evidence that I’m harmful to town. You can keep repeating yourself til you’re blue in the face and it still won’t make it true

my PLAY has been demonstrably pro town and with good results. That’s a FACT
 
I would expect Ultra to be showing up around now, I think we should give him another hour before we look to just lynch him. I would really rather not lynch without a claim but not being here for half a day phase is rough. Plausibly a genuine absence, but one can only work with what they have.
 
Poyser said:
LMAO
“Please case me and give me something to respond to im begging you”
*cases you*
”I won’t waste time responding in depth”

embarrassing
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But that's not casing me? Those are points that have already been brought up numerous times in the thread that I've already discussed and answered. You're also misrepresenting things right off the back, like you saying I went after CP at first because of him asking Yoshi to claim. That wasn't at all why I started going after CP, but if that's what you say, you're clearly misrepresenting me. I've also already discussed how I've felt about Craig and Lethal's claims and brought up reasons why I didn't believe those claims. You are also weirdly questioning how I've dealt with your slot, one I think is scum. Don't matter if your harmful indie or wolf, don't matter what you did in D1, don't care where your vote ended up, you're bad. So you trying to constantly go back to me moving goal posts with you is untrue because I've always thought you were a harmful slot.
 
Also if me thinking it's fucking crazy to work alongside someone that is probably a harmful role as town, then I'll happily take that lynch for thinking that.
 
Poyser said:
You have literally zero evidence that I’m harmful to town. You can keep repeating yourself til you’re blue in the face and it still won’t make it true

my PLAY has been demonstrably pro town and with good results. That’s a FACT
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Dung Eater.
 
PHEN0M said:
I was trying to say “don’t like this” with my gif but it didn’t work. Why immediately to Lethal? Shouldn’t we assess those who pushed Ultra as the counter wagon?
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There was almost a majority on Lethal. While I appreciate Lethal's renewed effort, it's still not enough for me to believe he's town. Now we have an Ultra that built FAST to counter Lethal. Crazy to think Lethal just walks in D3 if Ultra were to flip town.
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
Also if me thinking it's fucking crazy to work alongside someone that is probably a harmful role as town, then I'll happily take that lynch for thinking that.
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To be fair if he is just a harmful Indie I expect a good portion of his scum hunting would still have to be genuine, and Scum basically know everything about him, so they'll have to get rid of him at some point. I feel like it's self-resolving. Worst case we can come back to this later in the game, his transparency around claiming at least earns him that much goodwill from me.
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
Dung Eater.
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That’s not evidence m8, it’s theme hunting and completely disregarding the fact that I’ve claimed my real character who would evoke this reaction from anybody with theme knowledge. Why do you think I did that if I’m harmful to town? What’s the play exactly?
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
There was almost a majority on Lethal. While I appreciate Lethal's renewed effort, it's still not enough for me to believe he's town. Now we have an Ultra that built FAST to counter Lethal. Crazy to think Lethal just walks in D3 if Ultra were to flip town.
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Im not saying we let Lethal walk but like maybe we explore those who shifted the wagon too before we work in definitive “we’re going for Lethal next day.” Is all I’m saying.

Im not saying he’s town btw, I can see him resolving either way. My initial reaction to him D1, although a weak reason, was towny but we’re a long way from that. My not wanting to vote him this phase strictly comes from me not seeing him aligned with both Aurelian and Ekko, who I’m currently reading scum.
 
Ratchet said:
To be fair if he is just a harmful Indie I expect a good portion of his scum hunting would still have to be genuine, and Scum basically know everything about him, so they'll have to get rid of him at some point. I feel like it's self-resolving. Worst case we can come back to this later in the game, his transparency around claiming at least earns him that much goodwill from me.
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That's not my point, though. For example, someone like Doddsy thinks he's harmful but still wants to work with him. If someone thinks he's pro-town and wants to work with him, fine, but most seem to be at least a little wary of Poyser.
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
But that's not casing me? Those are points that have already been brought up numerous times in the thread that I've already discussed and answered. You're also misrepresenting things right off the back, like you saying I went after CP at first because of him asking Yoshi to claim. That wasn't at all why I started going after CP, but if that's what you say, you're clearly misrepresenting me. I've also already discussed how I've felt about Craig and Lethal's claims and brought up reasons why I didn't believe those claims. You are also weirdly questioning how I've dealt with your slot, one I think is scum. Don't matter if your harmful indie or wolf, don't matter what you did in D1, don't care where your vote ended up, you're bad. So you trying to constantly go back to me moving goal posts with you is untrue because I've always thought you were a harmful slot.
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They’ve already been brought up numerous times but you keep repeating that neither me nor cp have reasons for sussing you Lol. Ok then
 
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