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Game Elden Ring Mafia

Dr. Watson

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Administrator
CP claimed to clear himself and clear up why Ratchet wasn't killed after the janitor botch lol. That's important information for town.

Also, PBD hasn't claimed...
you're very eager to clear this particular claim which is fine, but understand doing this while trying to discredit another player (any player) is not a good look

it's interesting. you aren't even truly focused on the claim itself, as if it isn't as important as clearing a player name and reinforcing that they're town

and i didn't say BLD claimed, im talking about why he's even willing to claim at all despite not willing to give entail because supposedly there is none to give

you suspect people for inconsistencies you see, but do you understand you may be overlooking other inconsistencies in the people you're questioning?

you're willing to give craig the benefit of the doubt because it's a very logical move to make. it's an open and shut case. it's easy to stand by this.

it's not easy to deal with a player who has tunneled and has not made an open and shut case. but what is the point of doing this besides derailing and diverting attention?

like, its contradictory, but i think in this particular case, the irrationality is logical for BPD, it follows his thought patterns and remains consistent
and he may be tunneling because he understands its almost impossible to try to break through what is essentially a brick wall
 

Hans Tweetenberg

Exceptional
i think im probably underestimating or like kind of ignoring how u claimed, which was townie in a sense that fang took awhile to do it and was very wishy washy about it but u claimed like u own that role and its not fake. id say points to u being townie.
Eh I think you underestimate me on that front
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
V.I.P. Member
Fair, but from pov I think you took the momentum from dragon to double down. Unnecessary effort.

Im not gonna criticise your claim. I’ve butchered enough in my time. It’s entirely plausible that you’re town given scum hider is a ridiculous notion and it screws you if I die.
this is an interesting post btw because if lethal was godfather and ultra was town u wud expect lethal to be okay with an ultra flip since that clears him

i think post like this almost certainly removes a godfather lethal / town ultra scenario off the table
 

The X

Marvelous
Uzukage Destroya's Rainbow Reads!
I got players in different piles right now.

Lock Town
Black Legged Dragon - Everyone needs to trust this guy and I promise he will bring you to nirvana.


Probably Just Town
I believe that these will all flip town and be surprised if they don't.

Arp Bladstrum - Can't see any scum motivation here. Pretty transparent. Don't think he plays around with the PR if scum.
Retrolize - This is how I've seen her in every town game and I have no reason not to believe she's town here.
Soulkiller - Thought his play around Fang and his reads list were genuine. Don't really have reason to doubt Soul.
Yoshi - If he's scum, kudos for playing dumb. Not sure if Fang is flailing scum, he tries to dump pressure on his newbie scum partner and vote and pressure Yoshi.
Ultra - Ultra being here might surprise people, but I just don't see him flipping scum. If he does, that's fine and I understand that I'll probably be one of the names as a suggested partner. If he flips scum, sad for me, but happy for town.


Hopefully Town
These are players I read (or want to read) as town, but have paranoia around.
Ratchet - I really do think Ratchet is genuine in this game and I still don't sense much agenda from him. However, I do think he's been a bit loose with the suss finger at times and we are disagreeing a lot this game. I'm not overly paranoia about him because him arguing with Fang, building a case against Ultra, to save a possible GF Lethal, would be doing MENTAL laps.
Evans - I've been reading him town since D1, but I do think his play has a lot to be desired of. Not really familiar with this player at all so he could just be straight up wolf, but I don't think he is? Just enough motivation to get things does as scum, it feels.
Ekko - I REALLY just want Ekko to be town here. I do think that there were parts of his defense of Fang that seemed townie to me. I can see his point of view with RDK and do feel he believes it is true.
TPein - Tpein has said all the right things in my eyes this game. But that could also be a problem since he might just be purposely doing that. I don't think his scum hunting has been optimal and I'm used to a little bit more force from Tpein.
RDK - I initially thought that RDK was town for his interaction with Fang. But I did reread it again and can see RDK letting off the gas a bit and then voting for Tweet. I think he's been absent since then and I hate that Lethal gave the weapon to him. This is a high paranoia slot.



Mystery Pile
I wouldn't say these are null, but not enough posts or familiarity with them to be sure.
Phenom - I think there's enough for me to like, but there's also wiggle room to go the other way. Not a fan of how he wants Ultra without much explanation. Not sure where his reads are.
Big Man - I think this slot is town? Read over D1 posts and there was nothing alarming. Still nothing to really worry about, honestly. Probably just a less active town slot.
Alco - Alco I think has potential to be a tricky wolf here. Has had some good takes but not really much scum hunting. Not sure where their reads are. Does seem a bit casual with going with the flow.
Doddsy - I hate that around the time Lethal came back, there were a couple moments where I thought these two could be mates. I think there's some decent thought process there? Even if I didn't like his vote on me. So he's definitely on the fence here.



Scummy But Claimed
CraigPelton - I'll admit I was in a tunnel on Craig. Still don't like how he has claimed, but I can SEE how his claims can be true. Don't like his play at all, we've not connected on anything this game, and it'll probably be this way until we get a flip that can make one another feel easy about the other.
Hans Tweetenberg - Really have not liked a single thing from Tweet. Him voting together with Poyser and Craig after the two of them voted Tweet in D1 is really sussy. I think he's been focused on things that don't really matter. I would say his claim isn't that tight.
Lethal - We know how I feel about Lethal. Still don't love the claim. Think there were robotic things about the way Lethal typed after returning from their emotional outburst. Hate that Lethal gave the weapon to RDK. That's mad paranoia for me.



Probably Wolf
Rugrat - Really nothing to like from this slot. Don't think he's been productive or active at scum hunting. Has made some posts that are unhelpful or just don't make sense. Seems to be casual where he votes.
Dalton - Ultra made a good case on this slot. I think there has been a lot of deliberate action with Dalton. I think his play around Fang was very careful, almost to the point of avoiding. I think Dalton has also been nicely perched on the sidelines and has been smart about when to chime in and what to say. He almost feels too polished, which is probably initially leaned him town.
@Arp Bladstrum @Yoshi @T-Pein™

Can I have thoughts?
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
Moderator
Let's look at your last few posts quoting me...



I've literally stated this at the start of the phase. You're our most sensible lynch but no need to rush the day...



I've not responded to a single quote of yours?

Did I not respond Ekko to this?

Oh ye,

I did.






Oh, you even acknowledge that here!



I've been in work lad, nothing I've read has changed my mind that you're the most sensible lynch today. I also made that point D2.



Why would I respond to this? It's literal post-padding.



The only way Dalton could be more inactive is if he didn't sign up. Why spend time pushing and chasing someone who isn't going to appear? Vig him.



Why haven't you "slapped the shit out of him" like you apparently did to me then? The man openly said your posts weren't good enough and you took it.

Finally rocked up the courage to respond and you have nothing worthwhile to say

"Why haven't you done this!!! Why haven't you done that!!!"

Who the fuck cares? I'm trying to talk to you about how to improve town's winning odds today and you're still trying to measure your pecker against mine. You aren't winning, son.
 

The X

Marvelous
Finally rocked up the courage to respond and you have nothing worthwhile to say

"Why haven't you done this!!! Why haven't you done that!!!"

Who the fuck cares? I'm trying to talk to you about how to improve town's winning odds today and you're still trying to measure your pecker against mine. You aren't winning, son.
Ultra, how can I help build your town legacy? I'm sorry to say my old friend, but I don't know if you'll be able to make it out of this day alive. If you have any ideas where else to go, I'd be down for that as well.
 

Dr. Watson

‣ ↻
Administrator
do u see how they r ignoring me tho? what does that tell u? why if town do they not come here and put me in the trash can like i belong? i can be reasoned with. i dont think ive said anything unreasonable about them lol
soul may actually have an alibi. I cannot in good conscience drill anyone unless it's confirmed they use emotions and irl obligations as a get out of jail free/way to avoid suspicion so I will let you drill the poor soul

i dont think you're being unreasonable, just that you're bordering on being too preoccupied on this particular connection which may mean you're trying to build a narrative. you know what you usually tell me, I can't help you if you don't help yourself
If you're really gunning for this and think you've sniffed out the cocaïne hideout, cod you ISO the posts that rang alarm bells?

I can't discount you as scum yet, hence my hesitancy to to just trust you and your motives with RDK when they happen to align with scum tactics all willy nilly
If you play me I'm gonna shove an entire roasted pig up your ass
So I refuse to fully trust you and make sure my suspicions aren't guided too heavily by paranoia like last time
 

Evans

Acclaimed
I'm off to bed - I'll circle back to Ultra if that's the wagon tomorrow for the lynch. Completely fine with that.

But this:

Ratchet, I'll be honest with you, while typing these out, I completely forgot about you being the botched janitor kill. Having that in jogged in my memory, yeah, you're just town here. I don't have any excuse other than I wasn't thinking about the botched kill (I never saw it, just saw you guys talking about it).

Lethal I'm just messing with, Ratchet. Of course I'd prefer to have received the gun over anyone else. No I don't think Lethal giving me the gun magically solves me, Lethal, and Ultra.

I'm also moving closer to accepting I was just plain wrong about Craig this game. And I'm fine with being wrong!
I don't know, but that's what I'm guessing was given if Lethal is town.

in my head is a proper fucking slip

:hestonpls

@CraigPelton @Ratchet
 

Lethal

Exceptional
no lol if he can clear a townie he shud clear it. he already hinted at it. why not do it? clearing townies help us out

its literally not fishing im not asking about his role im asking him who is the town player

ur not foekn serious :hestonpls


i'll take this as a complement that my town and scum game are the same then pog

i dont really think u r treating me fairly. u just locked me scum and moved from there. u havent rly tried to see the other way or get something out of me


painfully untrue lol


coulda gave it to ratchet or some wide town read

you probably gave mafia a second kill in this scenario u realize that right?
It’s fishing.

Ratchet high chance of dying. Haza was a town read. I’m not following on others presented by scum reads of mine.
- yeah I could’ve given them a second kill but hey, I’ll trust my instincts and vibe. Wouldn’t be the first time I gift incorrectly
what?

ofcourse i am willing to lynch. i didnt say it will be now, but im willing to join the wagon and achieve the lynch eventually after we r done discussion

lethal bro i know u r looking for some shit to catch me off. this isnt it. try harder. spoiler - u wont find any but id love to see u keep trying
You said you would use all 24 hours, then voted, then feigned ignorance as to how much time is remaining. It’s just very hard to follow your thoughts here.
I’m seeking inconsistencies - playing alongside you at Xmas I’m more aware of your approach.

Who are your top 3 town & top 3 scum?
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
V.I.P. Member
Uzukage Destroya's Rainbow Reads!
I got players in different piles right now.

Lock Town
Black Legged Dragon - Everyone needs to trust this guy and I promise he will bring you to nirvana.


Probably Just Town
I believe that these will all flip town and be surprised if they don't.

Arp Bladstrum - Can't see any scum motivation here. Pretty transparent. Don't think he plays around with the PR if scum.
Retrolize - This is how I've seen her in every town game and I have no reason not to believe she's town here.
Soulkiller - Thought his play around Fang and his reads list were genuine. Don't really have reason to doubt Soul.
Yoshi - If he's scum, kudos for playing dumb. Not sure if Fang is flailing scum, he tries to dump pressure on his newbie scum partner and vote and pressure Yoshi.
Ultra - Ultra being here might surprise people, but I just don't see him flipping scum. If he does, that's fine and I understand that I'll probably be one of the names as a suggested partner. If he flips scum, sad for me, but happy for town.


Hopefully Town
These are players I read (or want to read) as town, but have paranoia around.
Ratchet - I really do think Ratchet is genuine in this game and I still don't sense much agenda from him. However, I do think he's been a bit loose with the suss finger at times and we are disagreeing a lot this game. I'm not overly paranoia about him because him arguing with Fang, building a case against Ultra, to save a possible GF Lethal, would be doing MENTAL laps.
Evans - I've been reading him town since D1, but I do think his play has a lot to be desired of. Not really familiar with this player at all so he could just be straight up wolf, but I don't think he is? Just enough motivation to get things does as scum, it feels.
Ekko - I REALLY just want Ekko to be town here. I do think that there were parts of his defense of Fang that seemed townie to me. I can see his point of view with RDK and do feel he believes it is true.
TPein - Tpein has said all the right things in my eyes this game. But that could also be a problem since he might just be purposely doing that. I don't think his scum hunting has been optimal and I'm used to a little bit more force from Tpein.
RDK - I initially thought that RDK was town for his interaction with Fang. But I did reread it again and can see RDK letting off the gas a bit and then voting for Tweet. I think he's been absent since then and I hate that Lethal gave the weapon to him. This is a high paranoia slot.



Mystery Pile
I wouldn't say these are null, but not enough posts or familiarity with them to be sure.
Phenom - I think there's enough for me to like, but there's also wiggle room to go the other way. Not a fan of how he wants Ultra without much explanation. Not sure where his reads are.
Big Man - I think this slot is town? Read over D1 posts and there was nothing alarming. Still nothing to really worry about, honestly. Probably just a less active town slot.
Alco - Alco I think has potential to be a tricky wolf here. Has had some good takes but not really much scum hunting. Not sure where their reads are. Does seem a bit casual with going with the flow.
Doddsy - I hate that around the time Lethal came back, there were a couple moments where I thought these two could be mates. I think there's some decent thought process there? Even if I didn't like his vote on me. So he's definitely on the fence here.



Scummy But Claimed
CraigPelton - I'll admit I was in a tunnel on Craig. Still don't like how he has claimed, but I can SEE how his claims can be true. Don't like his play at all, we've not connected on anything this game, and it'll probably be this way until we get a flip that can make one another feel easy about the other.
Hans Tweetenberg - Really have not liked a single thing from Tweet. Him voting together with Poyser and Craig after the two of them voted Tweet in D1 is really sussy. I think he's been focused on things that don't really matter. I would say his claim isn't that tight.
Lethal - We know how I feel about Lethal. Still don't love the claim. Think there were robotic things about the way Lethal typed after returning from their emotional outburst. Hate that Lethal gave the weapon to RDK. That's mad paranoia for me.



Probably Wolf
Rugrat - Really nothing to like from this slot. Don't think he's been productive or active at scum hunting. Has made some posts that are unhelpful or just don't make sense. Seems to be casual where he votes.
Dalton - Ultra made a good case on this slot. I think there has been a lot of deliberate action with Dalton. I think his play around Fang was very careful, almost to the point of avoiding. I think Dalton has also been nicely perched on the sidelines and has been smart about when to chime in and what to say. He almost feels too polished, which is probably initially leaned him town.
so we disagree the most about soul, RDK and CP. im gna assume u have some mechanical reason to town read soul or sm really good faith because i cant rly share the same sentiments around his slot

i also dont think rugrat and dalton r that scummy as u make them seem to be lol. i think i know what rugrat's role is. he kind of hinted it. dalton i can see flipping scum so wont mind a claim today.
 

The X

Marvelous
I'm off to bed - I'll circle back to Ultra if that's the wagon tomorrow for the lynch. Completely fine with that.

But this:




in my head is a proper fucking slip

:hestonpls

@CraigPelton @Ratchet
I'm honestly confused about this? Why wouldn't Lethal gift a gun? Someone even mentioned before about how Lethal probably gave scum a second shot. I think it's pretty typical for these gifts to be guns.
 
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