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Hans Tweetenberg

Hans Tweetenberg

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TSworder said:
I suppose you're referring to Ultra and not Grammaton here, right? I don't think that Ultra was toxic in ``most of his confrontations``

I also said that Ultra is more active and uses less fluff; his interaction with you from the beginning is just a small aspect of his conversations; he has good activity with Aurelian, BPD, T-Pein/etc.; I think he plays differently than his d1 in MW; when he was a go getter at the start and calmed down mid-end of d1, this d1 he started strong, and he has the same flow currently, if this makes sense—and I consider this good enough for a town lean.
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Hmmm

HMMMMM
 
Grammaton

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Ultra said:
Yeah, but there's no chance Ekko is going over today, and I've thrown out some pretty provocative accusations your way, and I'm up for grabs, doesn't grab your interest?
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I don’t understand your angle here - very aware ekko isn’t going to be lynched today, your framing suggests I can literally only pursue one goal at a time

I’m having trouble understanding what you’re trying to do as any theoretical alignment here tbh
 
Emil

Emil

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Grammaton said:
Thank you for this, welcome to the game. Scalpel time.

- If you think Fang is town, why would he appease me? Also, Ive not really pressured him, weve asked each other questions and I largely accepted his answers and vice versa. Do you think hes agreed with anything on me thats not agreeable?
- If you like Ultra's Dofla direction, why would Ultra scumreading Evans and Fang bother you so much as pertains to his alignment?
- I think your Evans read is correct, and hes typically combative as any alignment tbh. I dont get what you mean by obtuse in this sense
- Lethal is like 99.9% town
- I dont understand your read on Nat at all, pls elaborate
- Hime seems very likely town, shes night and day compared to the previous game
- Joygirl feels very town to me too. Based on the game I played where she was scum, she basically avoided the thread like the plague and gave nothing of substance. There was something else she did that specifically pinged me in that game that I cant remember, but nothing shes said or done has recreated that this game
- Your read on BPD doesnt really make sense - why would town say whatever and 'play for lategame'
- I dont follow the critique of my effort early game, given I established quickly 3 town reads that you now agree with for give or take the same reasons as me, as a direct result of my questioning?
- Im biased but agree with the take on Soul
- Tpein trolling is his MO when hes rumbled early. He has a distinct way of playing as town which he just isnt doing here (He will aggressively latch onto someone and almost proactively preflip them and frame everything theyre doing as scum. Here hes just making vague allusions to 'someone pushing him being scum'
- With the except ion of Sworder I largely agree with your other stuff - Sworder has been way better than tpein, even by your own metric, cause at least hes playing the game

in conclusion, enough here to work with, Id like you to flesh out some of the stuff I identified above tho

As for tweet, Ive given it, hes somewhere between null and scum
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cant reply to this all now. would u be down to lynch cubey or tweet?

if u think tpein is scummier how does tpein work in team with the other 2?
 
Ultra

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Grammaton said:
I don’t understand your angle here - very aware ekko isn’t going to be lynched today, your framing suggests I can literally only pursue one goal at a time

I’m having trouble understanding what you’re trying to do as any theoretical alignment here tbh
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You've suddenly become very withdrawn after all but bringing T to the finish line.
 
Grammaton

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Ekkologix said:
cant reply to this all now. would u be down to lynch cubey or tweet?

if u think tpein is scummier how does tpein work in team with the other 2?
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Tpein works as scum with anyone because he plays like a total moron and it’s always possible his team have had enough of him at any given time
 
Grammaton

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Ultra said:
You've suddenly become very withdrawn after all but bringing T to the finish line.
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Withdrawn? No, I still think he’s probably the best choice, but do you think I should be rushing him over the top or something here?

The point was to get him to the line so he can be pushed over it at the right time, rather than scrabbling for votes with 10 minutes to go

Like what do you actually think I’m doing here?
 
Emil

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Ultra said:
I'm confused about what your priority is here
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wholeheartedly agree. its been bothering me his focus on tpein and ignoring the other scummy slots from what i read

@Grammaton reason for bld being town playing for late game is he has done this before and his response to cubeys entrance (who i have as scum)

reason for nat being weak town is her willingenss to solve and find town reads even tho she has not read full game. i think she came off better from the interaction with evans where he was saying he agrees with sworders read on ultra and nat told him that sworder town reads ultra while evans scum read ultra so evans post made no sense. it looked like evans thought he is replying to aurelian but he was in fact replying to sworder. he then proceeded to be obtuse about his reponses to nat which i didnt like
 
The X

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Ekkologix said:
wholeheartedly agree. its been bothering me his focus on tpein and ignoring the other scummy slots from what i read

@Grammaton reason for bld being town playing for late game is he has done this before and his response to cubeys entrance (who i have as scum)

reason for nat being weak town is her willingenss to solve and find town reads even tho she has not read full game. i think she came off better from the interaction with evans where he was saying he agrees with sworders read on ultra and nat told him that sworder town reads ultra while evans scum read ultra so evans post made no sense. it looked like evans thought he is replying to aurelian but he was in fact replying to sworder. he then proceeded to be obtuse about his reponses to nat which i didnt like
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When have I played for late game before? I usually have it in mind that I can die at any time in the game so don't really hold much value in crossing the finish line as long as I win.
 
Ultra

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Grammaton said:
Withdrawn? No, I still think he’s probably the best choice, but do you think I should be rushing him over the top or something here?

The point was to get him to the line so he can be pushed over it at the right time, rather than scrabbling for votes with 10 minutes to go

Like what do you actually think I’m doing here?
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You're allowing room for argument against a stated town read vs a scum read after a very sudden pivot and without really engaging me, you tell me what I should make of that. I can easily say you're allowing the wind to blow wherever and are too afraid to commit to my lynch, but mostly I just have no clue what you're doing
 
Hans Tweetenberg

Hans Tweetenberg

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Juliet said:
You have seen 5 of my scum games and I haven't shown any emotion. I feel like as if you should have a better idea on what my town playstyle would look like compared to my scum games.
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That's something that bothers me tbh, we played scum together in Fairy Tail and you seemed a lot more composed that time, no talk about people being toxic or whatever. No idea what to make of it atm.
 
Grammaton

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I’ll have a look at nats conversation with evans, I’ve basically got no recollection of it so

I don’t really get your point re: tweet or cube, they can both die but not CFDing them. They’re both lynch candidates for tomorrow if they aren’t already dead
 
Grammaton

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Ultra said:
You're allowing room for argument against a stated town read vs a scum read after a very sudden pivot and without really engaging me, you tell me what I should make of that. I can easily say you're allowing the wind to blow wherever and are too afraid to commit to my lynch, but mostly I just have no clue what you're doing
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Checking my work mostly
 
Ratchet

Ratchet

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Black Pegged Dragon > Aurelian > Evans > Aurelian > T-Pein > None > T-Pein > Ultra
Ultra > DoflaMihawk > Evans > Aurelian > DoflaMihawk > T-Pein > Hans Tweetenburg > T-Pein
hime > Ultra > Grammaton > Hans Tweetenburg > Juliet
T-Pein > Ultra
DoflaMihawk > Ultra
Ekkologix > Ultra > Evans
Aurelian > Ultra > T-Pein
Grammaton > Evans > None > T-Pein > None
SoulKiller > Grammaton
Evans > Ultra > None > T-Pein
Lethal > Hans Tweetenburg > T-Pein
Natalija > Hans Tweetenburg
Cubey > Ultra > T-Pein
Hans Tweetenburg > Ultra
Juliet > Hans Tweetenburg > T-Pein
Kurumi > Ultra > T-Pein
TSworder > T-Pein

Ultra - 4 (T-Pein, DoflaMihawk, Hans Tweetenburg, Black Pegged Dragon)
Evans - 1 (Ekkologix)
Grammaton - 1 (SoulKiller)
T-Pein - 8 (Evans, Juliet, Ultra, TSworder, Lethal, Cubey, Kurumi, Aurelian)
Hans Tweetenburg - 1 (Natalija)
Juliet - 1 (hime)

Approx 3 hours remaining.
With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.​
 
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