Game Elden Ring Mafia

[EkkoLoJinx]

Fuck it.

Vote Evans

...Yeah fuck it this dude is on some stupid shit.

[Vote Lynch Evans]

r u guys just open scumming now lol

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Major fuckin' Tinfoil but I'm going for it: CP and peggy are scummates

they deserve oscar if true lol

 

[Dr. Watson]

I have the perfect meme to unite us all

 

[Doddsy]

I kind of can't be assed fully reading back so this might be a bit quick. If I miss anything of note that I should respond to let me know and I'll try find it.

"Hey Doddy can you explain your reasoning for your reads?"

"Oh hey look at the time I gotta go but I'll totally explain them later after I have time to fabricate them!"

Funny enough his secondary scum reads aren't so bad but cannot conjure an terse explanation when demanded. This is usually a pretty reliable scum tell

Shoot that angle lad, I was going out for dinner. Anyone familiar with you can tell you I am very much capable of formulating good fake reads as scum, most people don't like to read me one way or the other.

Also Doddy mentions himself as a potential gift recipient and i dunno where that comes frim

This came direct from Lethal I believe who said he was going to give it to me, then Abi told him not to and I agreed with that.

That said Ekko I think I'm retiring my town read on you. You're leaning into your tunnel far too much by now, I can't see you actually trying to solve here.

That's what I've said as well, there's no endeavour to catch anyone he's just tunneling haza.

The way this ultra wagon has stalled AGAIN after him having a crap unverifiable role is giving me major questions

There's like 20 hours left still.

idk why that react emoji is called foolishness I just use it when I think someone is being some combination of cringe/edgy

My boy Vergil

Ultra has to be the lynch today. We’ve confirmed Lethal gave a gift, we’ve had no other info from night usage emerge outside of a seraph targeting a hider right?

Ultras flip gives us plenty of info to work off tomorrow and he’s probably scum. He looks like he’s capitulating to me.

Quote me some posts that make you think he's capitulating?

Dalton ISO:

Dalton's D1 play when looking at his posts can be broken down pretty cleanly into two phases. The first phase being his "policy vote" on T-Pein, and his accusation of Retro:



















While he does interact with Poyser here and there, he mostly tunnels Retro for the crime of...joining a wagon that he asked votes be placed on.

Now, while I won't preclude townies calling out bandwagoners on a wagon they started, this feels ingenuine for. T-Peins wagon had not accumulated any other votes, and Dalton wants people to hop on, but explicitly not for a reason?

He also vaguely alludes at taking issue with player's reactions to Fang. This is without

A) Establishing a reason to suspect Fang on his own
B) Not even establishing who those players in question are.

The fixation on one player slot, Retro, is based on an entirely fabricated premise, and one that seems like he's just finding an unconfident townie to tug around.

Now onto his reaction to Fang's claim:

















I think I'll mostly let these quotes speaks for himself, there's an obvious motive between all of them, and not one that wavers that much.

For all the shit I've been given over Fang, ironically, Dalton seems to borrow my own reasoning for not-thinking-he's-mafia-but-still-worth-lynching at multiple points (something I had only noticed on reread), while using that justification to strictly not lynch him.

When the discussion of shifting off him comes up:





Dalton can't help but undermine his own credibility by suggesting in a cutesy fashion a policy lynch. Strangely, I don't think T-Pein has taken all that much issue with him this game for it.

To me, this alone warrants suspicion. There's also his Day 2, but I'd say what's incriminating here is more of an absence of typical expected townplay than anything he says explicitly:







Hedges very much on Lethal throughout the day, refuses commitment, cites how he could still be an "info" lynch. Anyone who's seen this type of thing knows how loudly it speaks for itself.



When questioned by X feels compelled to give retroactive reasoning for his stance on Fang and instead of admitting being wrong he comes up with a gauntlet of excuses about how he didn't actually misread him - he has just mostly skimmed! And he would have totally lynched him but Retro!

Retro Retro Retro. Over fixation on a single slot, lack of threadwide solving, he comes across as playing a completely different game from most players in the thread, and that's because he is.

[Vote lynch Dalton]

Get a claim out of this guy, today.

Decent write up tbh. Worth looking at regardless of what Ultra flips tbh

I received a message from host that says: the Great Serpent and the Lord of Blasphemy are gathering strength and they are watching and waiting

I don't have any theme knowledge so I think it's best I share and let others discuss if they deem it important

That's Rykard. Volcano Manor. He's probably the SK

He's got an absorbption sort of deal if I remember right which is concerning. Might take roles of those he kills or something based off that. If only we had someone in game getting called a snake............ @Black Pegged Dragon !!!!!

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Yeah I can vibe

unvote

vote: Evans

is this actually a thing what?

u guys didnt even see dalton's claim yet to go to evans after he went to sleep lmfao

atleast do it when hes here u cowards

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Anyway I’m going for a swim. I’ll be on pc later.

@T-Pein™ & @Ekkologix I’d like your top 3 scum & town reads please

i think you can be one tbh but at the same time u r being alot more agreeable and easier to work with this game lol

tpein, rdk, soulkiller, you are who i have as a team

i can reconcile u as townie. id put ultra in ur place then

if im wrong on both of u id start exploring tweet alco dalton direction

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

more importantly who do we want RDK to shoot now lol. we must absolutely control where that goes

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Idk what to do with my vote rn

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I'm kinda
Like

Not taking breaks from my phone

you playing this on phone??

my condolences

ur a brave one

 

[Ultra]

is this actually a thing what?

u guys didnt even see dalton's claim yet to go to evans after he went to sleep lmfao

atleast do it when hes here u cowards

It's not my fault he ignored me

Fuck around and find out

 

[Ultra]

Idk what to do with my vote rn

I'm a pro mafia player, in my opinion, you should sheep me

 

[T-Pein™]

is this actually a thing what?

u guys didnt even see dalton's claim yet to go to evans after he went to sleep lmfao

atleast do it when hes here u cowards

He literally left as he was getting grilled.
Kekw

 

[Ultra]

i think you can be one tbh but at the same time u r being alot more agreeable and easier to work with this game lol

tpein, rdk, soulkiller, you are who i have as a team

i can reconcile u as townie. id put ultra in ur place then

if im wrong on both of u id start exploring tweet alco dalton direction

You need to get through 6 ningens before Dalton? You're running hard D for the lad. Better cut your losses and start bussing.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Maybe it's because they're my opinions that I'm prepared to stand by, regardless of whether you think they're relevant or not

i can come around you being argumentative and all but i hope u understand that when they fill a great portion of ur post count it doesnt sit well and tells me u arent engaging in meaningful topics as much as i would hope u to be

also i honestly cant remember playing a game with u as mafia but i remember most of ur town games u r mostly inactive lol. here u seem to be trying to make a conscious appearance in the game. i am not sure if this is because u r truly enjoying the game or because u r worried about how u may be perceived, which could lean into u being scum

i hope this atleast gives u a perspective of where im coming from regarding why i think there r possibilities to u being scum

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

wow we got more reacts now lmao

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

You think me and RDK are mates? You and me were just talking about him and Lethal as a team.

possible. i wouldnt doubt it. i just think u r town tho. worst thing was dropping RDK name for cfd and might be a pointer towards being aligned

He should drop the name before night to inform our power roles decisions tbh, I'm not worried about scum knowing who a neigborizer is or whatever this is

he said he received a message so probably not neighborizer
inb4 it was lethal sending an item with a message lol

I still think you're wrong on Soul, but I don't think we're far off from each other at all here.

We can work to get a lynch somewhere other than Ultra. I've enjoyed him in this game as well.

i really dont think i can be as charitable to soul as u r. like i must be missing something in their posts that cause u to read them this towny

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

?

lethal is clearing up that the slip isnt a slip

 

[Doddsy]

I honestly don't know why Craig would be fearful of being shot or lynched. He's also a vanilla role now. So why be scared to die? You saved townies and your town flip would give people somewhere to go. Seems too worried about preserving still.

This is a weird point even if we could confirm he's out of shots. Give me a living confirmed townie over a role any day.

It would just be Tracker. I know "Motion Detector" is a role too, which I believe just returns results indicating that the player did something, but I don't *think* it's a WS convention.

Motion Detector is around on WS, so is the other one. Motion Detector is like a watcher, and then I wanna say Follower (?) is like a tracker but they get minimal info.

Convenient in the sense that the most outspoken players who have offended the most people just so happen to all be scum when the collective experience of everyone who has played even 5 games of mafia would know this to be categorically very unlikely unless you are a reptilian and your base instincts from the past hundreds of millions of years of evolution are the sole factor informing which bad man die on computer

This is such a weird post

By the way dooby you forgot to vote me

The whole bottom of my previous post was how it's too early to hammer you, I don't get what you mean by that?

Where did @Doddsy go?

I made it pretty clear my read was very, VERY slow

He needed two days to case you, he needs two more for the next guy on the list

So rude

No.
I have these pairings tho.
If we lynch the first we get info on the 2nd.
Not a team.

RDK - kekko
Ultra - Lethal
RDK - Tweet
Ultra - Alco
RDK - tpein
Kekko - Tweet

I had this quoted as I was super confused how you had some of these people on teams, but now I see it's you get info on the other from a flip.

I’m not willing to lynch Retro yet

Id go:
Ultra
Ekko
Lethal (ultra and Ekko clarify eachother tbh)
Tweet (VT, has grown into the game since the D1 meta read but still unsure tbh)

Doddsy is a growing interest of mine for a push. That random quote he came at me with when the whole interaction paints a different picture is intriguing.

Eh? What about any of that interaction painted that in a different picture?

Uzukage Destroya's Rainbow Reads!
I got players in different piles right now.

Lock Town
Black Legged Dragon - Everyone needs to trust this guy and I promise he will bring you to nirvana.


Probably Just Town
I believe that these will all flip town and be surprised if they don't.
Arp Bladstrum - Can't see any scum motivation here. Pretty transparent. Don't think he plays around with the PR if scum.
Retrolize - This is how I've seen her in every town game and I have no reason not to believe she's town here.
Soulkiller - Thought his play around Fang and his reads list were genuine. Don't really have reason to doubt Soul.
Yoshi - If he's scum, kudos for playing dumb. Not sure if Fang is flailing scum, he tries to dump pressure on his newbie scum partner and vote and pressure Yoshi.
Ultra - Ultra being here might surprise people, but I just don't see him flipping scum. If he does, that's fine and I understand that I'll probably be one of the names as a suggested partner. If he flips scum, sad for me, but happy for town.

Hopefully Town
These are players I read (or want to read) as town, but have paranoia around.
Ratchet - I really do think Ratchet is genuine in this game and I still don't sense much agenda from him. However, I do think he's been a bit loose with the suss finger at times and we are disagreeing a lot this game. I'm not overly paranoia about him because him arguing with Fang, building a case against Ultra, to save a possible GF Lethal, would be doing MENTAL laps.
Evans - I've been reading him town since D1, but I do think his play has a lot to be desired of. Not really familiar with this player at all so he could just be straight up wolf, but I don't think he is? Just enough motivation to get things does as scum, it feels.
Ekko - I REALLY just want Ekko to be town here. I do think that there were parts of his defense of Fang that seemed townie to me. I can see his point of view with RDK and do feel he believes it is true.
TPein - Tpein has said all the right things in my eyes this game. But that could also be a problem since he might just be purposely doing that. I don't think his scum hunting has been optimal and I'm used to a little bit more force from Tpein.
RDK - I initially thought that RDK was town for his interaction with Fang. But I did reread it again and can see RDK letting off the gas a bit and then voting for Tweet. I think he's been absent since then and I hate that Lethal gave the weapon to him. This is a high paranoia slot.


Mystery Pile
I wouldn't say these are null, but not enough posts or familiarity with them to be sure.
Phenom - I think there's enough for me to like, but there's also wiggle room to go the other way. Not a fan of how he wants Ultra without much explanation. Not sure where his reads are.
Big Man - I think this slot is town? Read over D1 posts and there was nothing alarming. Still nothing to really worry about, honestly. Probably just a less active town slot.
Alco - Alco I think has potential to be a tricky wolf here. Has had some good takes but not really much scum hunting. Not sure where their reads are. Does seem a bit casual with going with the flow.
Doddsy - I hate that around the time Lethal came back, there were a couple moments where I thought these two could be mates. I think there's some decent thought process there? Even if I didn't like his vote on me. So he's definitely on the fence here.


Scummy But Claimed
CraigPelton - I'll admit I was in a tunnel on Craig. Still don't like how he has claimed, but I can SEE how his claims can be true. Don't like his play at all, we've not connected on anything this game, and it'll probably be this way until we get a flip that can make one another feel easy about the other.
Hans Tweetenberg - Really have not liked a single thing from Tweet. Him voting together with Poyser and Craig after the two of them voted Tweet in D1 is really sussy. I think he's been focused on things that don't really matter. I would say his claim isn't that tight.
Lethal - We know how I feel about Lethal. Still don't love the claim. Think there were robotic things about the way Lethal typed after returning from their emotional outburst. Hate that Lethal gave the weapon to RDK. That's mad paranoia for me.


Probably Wolf
Rugrat - Really nothing to like from this slot. Don't think he's been productive or active at scum hunting. Has made some posts that are unhelpful or just don't make sense. Seems to be casual where he votes.
Dalton - Ultra made a good case on this slot. I think there has been a lot of deliberate action with Dalton. I think his play around Fang was very careful, almost to the point of avoiding. I think Dalton has also been nicely perched on the sidelines and has been smart about when to chime in and what to say. He almost feels too polished, which is probably initially leaned him town.

That's awful strong on Arp/SK/Yoshi.

Explain Ekko for me too, and Evans while you're at it.

I've literally been pushing Lethal all game you nutcase. BPD just slipped he knew it was a gun Lethal gave out.

My main town core of CP/Ratchet have been reading Lethal town. Flip BPD as scum and it incriminates Lethal and he goes the next day.

Why does that incriminate Lethal and not Haza just by the way?

Scum is you, Lethal & BPD.

That's a pairing for sure. If this is what you're thinking, what's up with Day 2? Was that some big bus?

Oh no, Doddy didn't like a post of mine! Who could have seen this coming. Certainly not me.

Man's so snipey

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

You need to get through 6 ningens before Dalton? You're running hard D for the lad. Better cut your losses and start bussing.

might change to first depending on what he says to ur case. i see no reason for me to change where i have him when he hasnt made any developments on his end

this is the PoE i am working towards:

rdk
tpein
soulkiller
lethal/ultra

dalton
tweet/alco

BLD?
rugrat/bigman?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

i think evans has been genuine today in his posts to ratchet i dont really liked how yall latched on his wagon