The X
Marvelous
Well I hope we both become more wonderful versions of ourselves! We'll team up and blow all the wolves away!
I’m just gonna accuse of being a harmful indy in every game I reckon
PHEN0M
GOATN0M
I literally quoted it in dead chat on my catch up and said “oh yeah phenom is scum” and then 5 days later you still weren’t lynched
I had already planned to claim my fake character and Forced Commuter and then i saw the jailkeeper claim and went, yeah i don’t care I can WIFOM out of that. Despite me not eating a lynch, now me wants to slap the shit out of then me cuz boy that was not it.
I personally was a big fan of claiming x-shot and then Ekko going, “CP was non-consecutive, what about you?” “ Oh yeah, most definitely. Was totally fucking with scum I’m the same” and then just going with it.
The X
Marvelous
That's probably fair, always got to be wary.
Tempest
Leprous Monarch
I'll let you do the talking then
its not rly a different role. in the action processing order apparently commuter is faster. for us, a jailkeeper only roleblocks and protects the target. it does not stop players from visiting the target. a forced commuter stops ALL actions. for WS seems like the roles r the same.
anyway that's all setup spec. ultimately its his gameplay that we judge him based on. he was going to be last day's lynch or the one before it if evans just played townie and pushed phenom instead of claim
the PoE works in magical ways poyser. u cant see it from our PoV because u have outsider spectator mod knowledge
to us the last day was between evans and phenom after BLD defended himself very well he wasn't an option. the way BLD removed himself from being lynched shuda been how evans do it
all we needed is evans to push for phenom. from his PoV he is 10000000000000000% sure it had to be phenom. he did push it at the end but claimed indie in the process which weakened his claim and made it seem he could be a fake claiming scum
lastly before we could discuss, the wagon was hammeredd by TOWN. yes TOWN hammered it. we needed to discuss that we will lose cuz of BPD's passive
if the game was plurality or otherwise we just took the time to think it through we wud arrive at lynching phenom first being more ideal
its easy to speak from outsider PoV. we don't know in the game who is indie or who is mafia. we hunted rugrat as scum and he flipped indie. from his PoV he shuda been able to town his ass off and push the lynch onto doddsy but couldn't. evans failed the same task against phenom.
towning ur ass off when in PoE is an important deciding factor for me. that's all there is to it
im more familiar with jailkeeper being strictly roleblock + protect. if X target Y with a jailkeerper, that's what they do. and anybody else can visit Y normally and it wouldn't fail (unless its a kill)
however a forced commuter is a role that completely removes player from the game. nothing can target them. so if X force commutes Y then Y is not in the game for the night and anything targeting them fails.
The X
Marvelous
Yes Craig, I already said that this was a unique game for me and brought out a lot of old energy. I think to define my whole game as being 'stubborn beyond reason' is a pretty unfair judgment. I think i showed numerous times my ability to try and listen as well as explain myself. I was unreasonable with Lethal the first time but then gave him a chance. Unfortunately I didn't like how he played after D4 and couldn't take my blinders off. I had my blinders on with you and it was tough to get out of my tunnel after your claim. But I did eventually and was able to put you in town POE. So do I disagree that I am reasonable beyond doubt? Yeah, I do. In a game like this I think most people can get into pretty good tunnels. But how did you respond to it? Instead of trying to figure me out or work with me, you just called me scum and didn't listen to a single thing I had to say. I think my actions and words showed that I really was trying to work with people and clear up any wrong interpretations about my slot. Maybe it's tough for me to play a game like this right now considering I've been playing games where abilities are little off the wall insane, but sometimes I question roles and abilities too much. You continuously screaming you're confirmed doesn't really help anything, same with Lethal and his at times standoffish attitude. If I'm wrong, I can usually admit that (eventually)!
Now, I hope this is a satisfying reply to you. Obviously my game bothers you, and that's okay! But you honestly don't need to wait until I comment on something Poyser says to jump in at me. I think there are more mature and productive ways to have a conversation. I know that maybe I can be an ass or stubborn, but I'm also playing a game about ego and lying on the Internet; I promise I am very approachable in real life!
Lethal
Exceptional
You asked 500 questions, refuse to see the answer, then ask it another 300 times. Insufferable. 2000 posts that flood the thread and allow scum to blend in. Flat out arrogance to dismiss a reads list built by someone (fwiw I had phenom & Evans correct). You were so preoccupied with buddying up to dragon that you clouded your own game. You literally played scum with me a month ago.
Lethal
Exceptional
You’ve played plenty of WS games with jailkeeper so keep bullshitting.
And you’ve seen my town game plenty on WS too. Lol.
Like I said in dead chat, I dunno how you can talk shit about misreading Lethal when most of town misread me. It naturally gets confusing when someone's meta tells coincide with general common scum tells
Lethal
Exceptional
Im still frustrated I was wrong on you. Dented my confidence
T-Pein™
The Nexus
- Pronouns
- They/Them
No ultra kun.
It was ok to lynch you.
Lynching lethal bad tho.
Sussing the scumiest player bad.
I think from your position I could understand it though.
It's everyone else's that kinda boggles me. Usually I have more of a takeaway of where I went wrong in the game, but not so much here.
T-Pein™
The Nexus
- Pronouns
- They/Them
@Ekkologix you got stomped.
I was rooting for you smh..
I was rooting for you smh..
T-Pein™
The Nexus
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Your CP tunnel was always silly.
Specially since he literally stopped all kills...
Lethal one was fine tho.
Hans Tweetenberg
Exceptional
Vigging and lynching confirmed townies loses games, who'da thunk
GGs
GGs
So.
One thing I really want to discuss here is the use of "Y and X have done fake excuses before."
Because I really, really feel for Lethal here. I know it's part of the game but it's an angle I've never liked, which you all saw with what also occurred in the Aurelian lynch.
And I understand it's entirely up to the player to read/believe the sincerity behind statements like these, but frustration at the game and others is real.
I'm just not sure how to limit that frustration when players are being pressed
One thing I really want to discuss here is the use of "Y and X have done fake excuses before."
Because I really, really feel for Lethal here. I know it's part of the game but it's an angle I've never liked, which you all saw with what also occurred in the Aurelian lynch.
And I understand it's entirely up to the player to read/believe the sincerity behind statements like these, but frustration at the game and others is real.
I'm just not sure how to limit that frustration when players are being pressed