Game Elden Ring Mafia

[Poyser]

no townie shud be mislynchable poyser. none of them. a townie shud be able to explain their reasoning throughout and box the scum out

no townie is concerned about being back on the table. what even is that lol

need lethal to iso phenom here and just box him out

we have identified phenom as scum last phase. his teammates wud have to be in arp/dalton/retro. we wud need to check their iso more and find which one it is. BLD does not fit as teammate with doddsy

we likely win this game at final 3 without the hater passive

These are all level 1 observations tbh lol. Scum are the more calculated players and way more likely to do each of these things. Ofc lethal is concerned about being back on the table, he’s been getting death tunnelled for 7 phases ffs. No townie likes getting mislynched so blanket statements like “No townie should be concerned with being back on the table” are just patently not true and will be proven wrong time and time and time again. Townies don’t always do ISOs. Biggest iso of the entire game was made by soulkiller in fact. Town don’t always have motivation, are wrong and oftentimes don’t even make sense because they haven’t calculated their thoughts befoeehand

I think you need to work on the nuance of mafia. You just suspect based on generic stuff that sounds good in theory but almost never applies in practice lol

 

[Ratchet]

do u remember one more?

Well me, for one. Pretty sure most mods on WS use that, too. Platinum on NF, probably. It's just more practical.

 

[Poyser]

@Grammaton you still need to decide on MVP and Honorable Mention(s) so we can doll out prize points.
@Poyser should we do that here or in a specific thread in after-game discussions officially once a game is over?

We usually just have the host announce in here after the game. He’s announced Dalton as MVP ans will announce HMs in the next day or so

 

[Ratchet]

I don't think I ever lost it. Dalton just said they poisoned me.

I believe it was lost over the poisoning, for the record.

 

[Grammaton]

@Grammaton you still need to decide on MVP and Honorable Mention(s) so we can doll out prize points.
@Poyser should we do that here or in a specific thread in after-game discussions officially once a game is over?

ya, I’m still weighing up the HMs, there’s 4 or 5 players with a good case imo

 

[Emil]

Well me, for one. Pretty sure most mods on WS use that, too. Platinum on NF, probably. It's just more practical.

do u do that rly? i mean ur games hardly have PRs lol. i don't remember ever having to be concerned about this in a game of urs

I don't think plat does it. plat does like arise using the super system where some actions bypass others, rather than it being "first and second"

 

[Emil]

I believe it was lost over the poisoning, for the record.

it has to be i think
cuz of phenom's role. if he failed a kill he burns the target or smth

 

[Poyser]

I don’t wanna be too harsh anyway. We all have shit games. I just didn’t really like the condescension that was aimed at lethal all game and then even after he flipped. He should never ever have been mislynched and it was your guys’ fault, not his.

 

[Ratchet]

@Aurelian My post count for this game should be 542, I think. Assuming post game replies aren't counted. Doesn't change anything as far as I can tell, in terms of the top 5?

 

[The X]

I don’t wanna be too harsh anyway. We all have shit games. I just didn’t really like the condescension that was aimed at lethal all game and then even after he flipped. He should never ever have been mislynched and it was your guys’ fault, not his.

I really don't agree with that at all and I'm not sure why you always defend his play. I was wrong about him yes, but he did nothing to help the situation. I explained multiple times and fairly clearly what my issue with his game was. Sometimes people have shit games, absolutely, but sometimes consequences happen for shit play as well.

 

[Emil]

this is why i hate being cleared btw

I struggle rly hard with being on the sideline having to judge and rely the townies in PoE to solve and town their ass off

id much rather be the one in PoE and suspected. i can draw so much scum out that way

 

[The X]

And yes I know you weren't specifically mentioning me, but I just wanted to say my two cents because I was one of the players who struggled with Lethal this game. Instead, try to coach Lethal and help him! He's got lots of potential and D3 from him was really good. Playing like that all the time will make him a new man

 

[PHEN0M]

@Poyser how infuriating was it from the sidelines when i just claimed the same role as CP? I figured i could play the WIFOM game to make it work in my favor.

 

[Emil]

I don’t wanna be too harsh anyway. We all have shit games. I just didn’t really like the condescension that was aimed at lethal all game and then even after he flipped. He should never ever have been mislynched and it was your guys’ fault, not his.

u have much more meta knowledge on him than us, for instance, we have never seen town lethal lol. he has always been scum where we play

we were able to identify say retro as town because we have seen town retro play. we struggled with lethal and we tried over multiple times to work with him

things like "check my iso for my reads" and "the only thing clearing you is being vig" . and foken "yeah I am back on the table" is really not stuff I am capable of letting go easily. maybe you can. I probably will not be able to.

 

[Poyser]

I really don't agree with that at all and I'm not sure why you always defend his play. I was wrong about him yes, but he did nothing to help the situation. I explained multiple times and fairly clearly what my issue with his game was. Sometimes people have shit games, absolutely, but sometimes consequences happen for shit play as well.

My dude, I had him town after about 3 posts. I understand I’m more familiar with him than you are, but you’re the one that chose to ignore that testimony and then ignore the testimony of every single other player that was also familiar with him that told you he was town. You then didn’t really take into account how nonsensical his claim would be as scum. Gift giver sure. Gift giver whose items automatically go to whoever hammers or kills him?? Why? Why on Earth would anybody claim that as scum lol. You then ignored him being cleared, and then ignored the godfather flipping that made his clear 100%.

and really, what was the case on him even? He was wrong on everything just like you were but as you’ve said in defence of yourself that doesn’t make a scum. What else did he do badly? Get overly emotional? It’s hardly a strong case at all lol, certainly nowhere near strong enough to ignore the mountain of evidence that pointed to you being wrong

and I don’t really agree with the latter part at all. You can’t blame other people for your own bad reads. Frankly I am BAFFLED that you were town this game as half of the shit you did made literally no sense coming from a townie, but I’ll still always be more mad at myself for getting it wrong and failing to see where the town pov came from. It’s a failing on my part and I’ll try and learn the lesson for future games with you. You clearly take stubbornness to a level that goes far beyond any kind of reasoning. Would have dropped my sus after alco cleared you though!

 

[Emil]

im not gna say lethal played bad

just he played in a style that I struggle forgiving and letting go

I agree that not everyone needs to play the same. working out with people's different play style is a skill I need to work on still

 

[Poyser]

@Poyser how infuriating was it from the sidelines when i just claimed the same role as CP? I figured i could play the WIFOM game to make it work in my favor.

I literally quoted it in dead chat on my catch up and said “oh yeah phenom is scum” and then 5 days later you still weren’t lynched

 

[Emil]

and not to take away anything from mafia. very solid performance and a strong team

 

[Poyser]

u have much more meta knowledge on him than us, for instance, we have never seen town lethal lol. he has always been scum where we play

we were able to identify say retro as town because we have seen town retro play. we struggled with lethal and we tried over multiple times to work with him

things like "check my iso for my reads" and "the only thing clearing you is being vig" . and foken "yeah I am back on the table" is really not stuff I am capable of letting go easily. maybe you can. I probably will not be able to.

I’m not surprised he asked you to check his iso for his reads after you asked him the same question 300 times without ever responding to his answer

 

[Emil]

I literally quoted it in dead chat on my catch up and said “oh yeah phenom is scum” and then 5 days later you still weren’t lynched

is it a common convention that commuters are only self target in WS?

ive seen commuters being non self target alot