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Regarding the claim, I do believe he is probably an Indie of some kind. I do not like how he has gone from "I will not claim, what about janitors" to claiming a Pro Town Indie, because why is an Indie ever concerned about having their flip hidden. Without a clear wincon (even Varys had *something* extra to do) I can't put much stock in it. Flavour claim or bust, in my opinion.
 
Ekko of all people and his meta read of all things is supposed to be Aurelians saving grace here. After that one recent game that argument is completely void.
 
Aurelian said:
So basically tell you who I am? Not just what my role is or my abilities my win-con but ALSO my literal character as well? C'mon man, after all the information I've given you, yes its suspect, but at this point I have nothing left in my sleeves.


We could just get rid of Yoshi, you know.
The guy (sweet friendly guy he is) but is absolutely clueless in mafia games. You can also offer alternative picks. This doesn't seem like your typical bravo-filled confident self mind you, Ultra, getting rid of useless players is better then a pro-town Indie like me. Its even weirder given how much you've felt uncomfortable with so many people jumping on me given the light of Yoshi, Poyser, and Alco's lack of contributions and opportunistic behavior.
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I believe this is the first time you even mentioned me or Poyser.
 
Ekkologix said:
i think ur focusing too much on this, and generally speaking focusing too much on weak "gotcha" moments

u did one with fang, we got it

u r now focusing on this doesnt look well for u. ur solving this game has been extremely lazy rdk
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Hmmm good point! He did also try and get me on saying “lol” too much!
 
Oh Aurelian wants to lynch Yoshi regardless of alignment because he's easily manipulated? That's no bueno, man.
 
Tweet and Soulkiller are making a lot of sense right now.

On the Yoshi front being quite new myself I have some sympathy especially when asking about the Role Claim situation that hit home quite hard. But as has been pointed out they're very flip floppy with no real meat to back it up. Definitely cannot condone the Aurelian approach of they're new and probably a liability let's yeet them because Scum can use them easily, not this early at least.

Ekko I have a lot of trouble sifting through posts and actually getting a read the word vomit muddles it for me but I am getting a bad gut feel, to make matters worse I remember feeling the same previously when he did flip town.

I'm happy to follow through with my current vote on Aurelian as I'm unhappy with the follow posts. Dalton seems to be the only one giving some benefit of the doubt? @Dalton who is the bigger target if it's not Aurelian?
 
Arp Bladstrum said:
Tweet and Soulkiller are making a lot of sense right now.

On the Yoshi front being quite new myself I have some sympathy especially when asking about the Role Claim situation that hit home quite hard. But as has been pointed out they're very flip floppy with no real meat to back it up. Definitely cannot condone the Aurelian approach of they're new and probably a liability let's yeet them because Scum can use them easily, not this early at least.

Ekko I have a lot of trouble sifting through posts and actually getting a read the word vomit muddles it for me but I am getting a bad gut feel, to make matters worse I remember feeling the same previously when he did flip town.

I'm happy to follow through with my current vote on Aurelian as I'm unhappy with the follow posts. Dalton seems to be the only one giving some benefit of the doubt? @Dalton who is the bigger target if it's not Aurelian?
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What about Soulkiller and I is making sense? Can you quote a few posts you liked?
 
Arp Bladstrum said:
Tweet and Soulkiller are making a lot of sense right now.

On the Yoshi front being quite new myself I have some sympathy especially when asking about the Role Claim situation that hit home quite hard. But as has been pointed out they're very flip floppy with no real meat to back it up. Definitely cannot condone the Aurelian approach of they're new and probably a liability let's yeet them because Scum can use them easily, not this early at least.

Ekko I have a lot of trouble sifting through posts and actually getting a read the word vomit muddles it for me but I am getting a bad gut feel, to make matters worse I remember feeling the same previously when he did flip town.

I'm happy to follow through with my current vote on Aurelian as I'm unhappy with the follow posts. Dalton seems to be the only one giving some benefit of the doubt? @Dalton who is the bigger target if it's not Aurelian?
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I'd like us to decide on people to press.

I have put forward Retro as an option, i've pointed out several different reasons i'm not a fan which you can read back on if you iso me

i'm not a fan of killing indies N1 and I think we're not gonna learn too much from it in terms of analysing wagons etc.
 
Ekkologix said:
lol im neither defending or distancing him. idk how to guage that anyway

im going to mention the facts i know about him and his meta - but i am not going to use it to justify him being town or not. i dont rly believe much in meta. his over defensiveness is generally NAI if we wanna talk meta. his push on yoshi has merits behind it tho and i want to see how far that develops and if he gets more scum reads later down the line from this position hes in
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Wait what merits does his push on yoshi have? His reasons for pushing yoshi made no sense
 
Doddsy said:
Hit me with your top reads before you read back quick
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I was only up to Page 7 before I left work but sure. I'll do them on players I'm liking & disliking.

Like:
RDK & Ratchet - both of these for the way they pushed back on opinions re: Lethals soft town lean. Especially Haza. Felt natural and trying to pick apart the logic as opposed to trying to set something up.

Dislike:
Aurelian - His reaction to Haza was meh, but the OMGUS onto Yoshi was not kosher.

Dunno:
Lethal - The initial interaction with him was fine, didn't sway me either way. I still hold that his intro to the thread is irrelevant to his alignment. What sort of irked me was his reactions and combativeness. When he started talking about going in circles and backing track, he had nothing to actually show for these arguments and got combative. This is behaviour I've seen from Lethal as town & scum. From what I remember, as town he'll drop receipts and structure a response to defend himself as he knows he's town and he'll go for it.
 
RDK said:
With this being said, Poyser hasn't done anything so far to make me lean either way, I like that we have mostly been mindmelding but I'm not blind to the fact that this could be by design. The content he generated off my initial shade on yoshi for example was very, very easy. Even if it's the same stuff I'd be asking them.

Having looked back over lethals past games I don't think they're much alignment indication to be had based on timing of entrance but I will say he felt more natural here off the bat than he has in some recent past scum games.
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:bjpenn
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
These two posts don't add up to me. Why would Craig want to bulky someone he strongly town reads into claiming?
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I shouldn't be defending CP here, but this post feels disingenuous. Clearly in between those two CP's stance on Yoshi has changed because of a post Yoshi made. And I'm sure you read that too.
 
Alco said:
Oh Aurelian wants to lynch Yoshi regardless of alignment because he's easily manipulated? That's no bueno, man.
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Yeah, I forgot to note this too. Earlier he expressed suspicion around Yoshi switching too easily for his liking, which he described as Yoshi looking for easy targets, essentially. It was pointed out that this doesn't really work, as Yoshi was initially defensive of him, and this never got addressed or conceded. Instead, he has switched his position from the above to "well even if he's town Yoshi is a liability" which, not to get into the ethics of it all, strikes me as a concession to the above without actually making one. You could also say it's moving the goal posts a little.

Given this, I suspect Aurelian is probably not all that pro town at all, which makes the decision quite easy.
 
Ratchet said:
Yeah, I forgot to note this too. Earlier he expressed suspicion around Yoshi switching too easily for his liking, which he described as Yoshi looking for easy targets, essentially. It was pointed out that this doesn't really work, as Yoshi was initially defensive of him, and this never got addressed or conceded. Instead, he has switched his position from the above to "well even if he's town Yoshi is a liability" which, not to get into the ethics of it all, strikes me as a concession to the above without actually making one. You could also say it's moving the goal posts a little.

Given this, I suspect Aurelian is probably not all that pro town at all, which makes the decision quite easy.
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good point
 
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