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Monster Hunter World Mafia - Game Thread
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Night 1
Monster Hunter Mafia - Night 1
There would be no more 'Drive-bys' for this plucky menace ...
Not even extreme cowardice could save this cuddly fella ...
Pukei-Pukei
Vanilla Townie
Congratulations, you are Pukei-Pukei, Astera Wyverns Aligned! A denizen of the Ancient Forest, you are known for fleeing at the first sight of threat from larger, deadlier predators. Capable of spitting and generating posionous saliva and gas respectively, you offer just about enough of a deterrent to ward off the likes of Anjanath and Rathalos... Alas, in this game, you have no reserves left.
In this game, you have no roles.
You win when all threats to the Astera Wyverns are eliminated.
It is now Day 2. With 18 alive, 10 votes to lynch. You have 36 hours.
Please note, there has been a correction to the EoD1 vote count - I have now edited this to be correct. The game has not been affected in any way.
There would be no more 'Drive-bys' for this plucky menace ...
Tzitzi-Ya-Ku
1x Redirector
Congratulations, you are Tzitzi-Ya-Ku, Astera Wyverns Aligned! A small reptilian wyvern bearing a more than passable resemblance to a velociraptor, you are known for emitting fierce, blinding blasts of light to disorient your prey from the pair of photophores located on your head.
Infamous for casually wandering into turf wars between larger predators and indiscriminately blinding them before leaving, you are something of a cult figure in the game franchise!
In this game, you have the following roles:
- 1x Redirector (You may target a player at night and if they are using a night role, you may direct it to a secondary target of your choosing. Be advised you will block lethal actions as opposed to redirecting them with this method)
You win when all threats to the Astera Wyverns are eliminated.
1x Redirector
Congratulations, you are Tzitzi-Ya-Ku, Astera Wyverns Aligned! A small reptilian wyvern bearing a more than passable resemblance to a velociraptor, you are known for emitting fierce, blinding blasts of light to disorient your prey from the pair of photophores located on your head.
Infamous for casually wandering into turf wars between larger predators and indiscriminately blinding them before leaving, you are something of a cult figure in the game franchise!
In this game, you have the following roles:
- 1x Redirector (You may target a player at night and if they are using a night role, you may direct it to a secondary target of your choosing. Be advised you will block lethal actions as opposed to redirecting them with this method)
You win when all threats to the Astera Wyverns are eliminated.
Not even extreme cowardice could save this cuddly fella ...
Pukei-Pukei
Vanilla Townie
Congratulations, you are Pukei-Pukei, Astera Wyverns Aligned! A denizen of the Ancient Forest, you are known for fleeing at the first sight of threat from larger, deadlier predators. Capable of spitting and generating posionous saliva and gas respectively, you offer just about enough of a deterrent to ward off the likes of Anjanath and Rathalos... Alas, in this game, you have no reserves left.
In this game, you have no roles.
You win when all threats to the Astera Wyverns are eliminated.
It is now Day 2. With 18 alive, 10 votes to lynch. You have 36 hours.
Please note, there has been a correction to the EoD1 vote count - I have now edited this to be correct. The game has not been affected in any way.
sorry for mislynching you lethal. that's my bad.
also that's a pretty ideal night phase tbh. not in terms of town death's, but id imagine both tsworder and xaldin would have been in POE for awhile and late game mislynches, especially with those roles, so this definitely helps.
also that's a pretty ideal night phase tbh. not in terms of town death's, but id imagine both tsworder and xaldin would have been in POE for awhile and late game mislynches, especially with those roles, so this definitely helps.
So initial reaction after the flip was that if tpein is scum then magic probably looks bad for flipping the wagon back to lethal at the end there.
But then I started thinking about magics play independently and I think there’s some scum equity there regardless. Firstly I haven’t sensed anywhere near as much effort to town clear people this game as he showed in the last game or generally any game I’ve played with him over the last few years. I also think the fact he chose to hammer down on lethal to be a fairly interesting choice, as lethal is the kinda guy that magic would usually try to clear early than scum read. Like he took the reason we town read Lethal last game and twisted it into a scum read this game. Now, it made sense of course and I even agreed with it, but in hindsight I feel like magic would have tried to give lethal benefit of the doubt there, especially as he doesn’t really believe lethal to be capable of being self aware as scum.
Also I noticed a bit of manipulation in his posts. He was referring back to the previous game randomly in order to explain his own behaviour in this game. IE “Last game when I was town I did x for y reasons, and I’m doing x again here because I am totally town and it totally worked for me last game”. Pretty sure he did this more than once, but the one that actually sticks in my mind is his reasoning for switching from tpein to lethal (the scum read vs the absence of a town read). Seems pretty SLIMY and not something I think he generally needs to resort to in order to make a point as town
So I wanna push here to start with
vote magic
But then I started thinking about magics play independently and I think there’s some scum equity there regardless. Firstly I haven’t sensed anywhere near as much effort to town clear people this game as he showed in the last game or generally any game I’ve played with him over the last few years. I also think the fact he chose to hammer down on lethal to be a fairly interesting choice, as lethal is the kinda guy that magic would usually try to clear early than scum read. Like he took the reason we town read Lethal last game and twisted it into a scum read this game. Now, it made sense of course and I even agreed with it, but in hindsight I feel like magic would have tried to give lethal benefit of the doubt there, especially as he doesn’t really believe lethal to be capable of being self aware as scum.
Also I noticed a bit of manipulation in his posts. He was referring back to the previous game randomly in order to explain his own behaviour in this game. IE “Last game when I was town I did x for y reasons, and I’m doing x again here because I am totally town and it totally worked for me last game”. Pretty sure he did this more than once, but the one that actually sticks in my mind is his reasoning for switching from tpein to lethal (the scum read vs the absence of a town read). Seems pretty SLIMY and not something I think he generally needs to resort to in order to make a point as town
So I wanna push here to start with
vote magic
if youre lynching whatever why were you opposed to lynching lethal, as cp brought up several times.
its d1.
literally just lynching w/e
What you want me to do.
not like they have any case or anything against me.
i just looked over fairy tale and her play is somewhat similar there. is this just an general read instead of meta based or are you going off meta too?
i was gonna ask why you did this vote but later on you explained as moving to get things done. i think this vote was missed in odo's post count too.
if tpein's entrance was so bad to you why didn't you vote tpein over lethal or want to? i understand i likely missed the reasoning as im sure you gave some(i know you mentioned hesitancy in lethal's wagon compared to tpein's although not sure if that's really accurate).
this also reads weird as you didn't even feel like lethal was a wagon
i like the points toward sworder.
what about hime's posts did you like outside of her willingness to vote ultra which obviously was going nowhere
do you think everyone will be doing the exact same type of scum interaction?
@Flower can you actually explain the idea/thinking behind this? as ya it doesn't really make sense whatsoever.
dont be such a pussy.
you spent the majority of your time afterwards just crying about being sussed rather than contributing. like so far the majority of it is just whining about you being wagoned.CP pushed me initially cuz I showed up just before going to bed to say wasup and didn't push anyone or provide any reads.
I literally didn't read so of course I didnt.
Idk what the deal is with impostor.
Something about why am I always using the same intro.
i think tweet's play is noticeably more town than his scum play. in his scum play he sort of does what he did with ultra except he initiates, then votes that person, then uses the bulk of his play around that person. his interaction with ultra seemed genuine and the fact he referenced a prior game where ultra mislynched him also seemed like town frustration.
what are your other town reads after day 1?
How familiar are you with flowers town game because it sounds like she just omgused as soon as someone told her there was a person voting her which is in line with what I saw in fairy tale(and among all women ahem).
So as town xaldin just comes in and says random shit? Is he similar to raem?I see. You didn’t respond about Lethal though, why you avoiding him?
You’re acting odd!
He’s being a bit more open and saying crazy stuff, not sure scumdlin would do the same, he usually just retracts.
I don’t think they *posted* enough for an opinion, unless if they posted during my beauty sleep.
What does this mean. What is his scum play.
That's mostly a shit reason to think Tweet is scum mate. Which you acknowledge yourself.so.im not really sure why you pointed it out.Also worth noting that when I pushed tweet last game and he was town he just noped out of interacting with me because he Cba with me yet here he came back at me with anger
Don’t really wanna count that against him tho cos his play last game was bitch made and I’d rather he do it this way
How exactly do you read any of the top players if you don't read their posts? Also you were most confident on lethal being scum outside of myself but you didn't even read among the active people. That's just weird.
These posts are like one after another. You flip flopped a lot on lethal, but most weird is you had quite a few scum leans yourself(namely flower) and while you called out ultra for not seriously pushing hime you didn't even bother trying to start a wagon on flower. Why? Like it seems you were content with day going to completion before jumping in harder for day 2.
So you decided to make the vote and then checked to see if it made sense rather than noticing something and voting based on it?
There’s a word for this process but I can’t quite put my finger on it. Oh wait yeah, it’s scum
Your main scum read was flower seemingly again it's weird you never actually tried pushing her and just brought her up repeatedly.
What do you think of Evans now?This could come back to bite the lad
Because it’s certainly the impression Lethal was going for
Btw there was an opportunity for poyser to go with his flower wagon, albeit Lethal started it but still.
You decided to play and your main contribution is speculating on flsvour for the miller?@CraigPelton is this why you didn't wanna talk flavors?
I was scum once and could recruit the miller in a star wars game
He was Skywalker.
I made him into Darth Vader.
This combined with what I saw later from Alco gives me a pretty decent feeling he's town. I don't really remember his scum play but this all seems rather genuine solving.
[Vote lynch Hime]
Didn't like that he pushed the guy who claimed over the guy who refused to claim too.
this is kinda nonsense tbh.
if these were your four main scum reads how did you end up on pein?
poyser why did you give shit for tweet for talking about the miller stuff but didn't have that same energy for dalton?
this is analysis is ass.
agreed, i think tweet is town from his play on day 1. i think his irritation shows a lot more clearly as town than as scum, especially in regards to being annoyed with poyser/ultra for continuously shitting on his play.
also pretty confident melkor is town too.
Uh I have a mention somewhere in that wall of magics but I can't find it
Spicy take
I didnt vote until later on because I was focusing on catching up and then there wasn't a whole lot of time left so I didn't think it was feasible to start a brand new wagon. Lethal just voted her after I expressed appetite to go there lmao so didn't really give me any confidence to start it either. I also did think lethal looked like scum, and then thought tpein looked pretty shite as well, so was fairly content with those two being the wagons. Im not massively confident on flower, tho she's still high in my poe. Her game here looks nowhere close to her town games that i've played with her so far though, so Im pretty curious as to how you've drawn that conclusion (i didnt play fairy tale however i have played with her as town multiple times)
4ts?
cant really remember why i didnt give dalton as much shit tbh. i dont disagree that dalton has largely been chatting shit tho
My current scum reads actually have nothing to do with the wagons yesterday
I saw Hime drop a wallpost after EoD which I didn't get to read in its entirity, but honestly seemed high effort. I hate to hold this against her, but I don't think I've ever seen her do this before and it's not something I associate with her town game. I'd be interested in giving it a look over anyway though
Dalton comes off a lot worse to me after a reread. I think him rolespeccing miller is NAI, I won't assume what assumptions he comes loaded into the game with, but he never actually pursued that thought any further or gave a read to CP and kinda just forgot about it. I usually don't have a hard time finding him as town even though he's low profile because he'll usually toss a thought or two out that check out, there's kind of a lack of that there.
Still kind of suspicious of Imp too but more of a backseat scum read than these two
I saw Hime drop a wallpost after EoD which I didn't get to read in its entirity, but honestly seemed high effort. I hate to hold this against her, but I don't think I've ever seen her do this before and it's not something I associate with her town game. I'd be interested in giving it a look over anyway though
Dalton comes off a lot worse to me after a reread. I think him rolespeccing miller is NAI, I won't assume what assumptions he comes loaded into the game with, but he never actually pursued that thought any further or gave a read to CP and kinda just forgot about it. I usually don't have a hard time finding him as town even though he's low profile because he'll usually toss a thought or two out that check out, there's kind of a lack of that there.
Still kind of suspicious of Imp too but more of a backseat scum read than these two
well this is fun since i didn't like your play either. although this push in itself is better than your day 1 play which i found utterly lacking in the aspect of actually trying to push the people you suspected.
when you suggest i made little effort to town clear people can you explain as i feel like i tried for the first 36 hours of the game while lamenting that the sheer inactivity was making it hard to find town clears. i want to point this out specifically because you yourself said it was hard to find town clears as a point as did cp. is there a reason this is specific at me outside of the fact i like to town clear people, which i still tried to do.
i have no idea why you think id give lethal the benefit of the doubt for what he said nor do i know where you're getting the idea that i believe lethal has zero self awareness for himself.
btw it wasn't an absence of a town read, it's an absence of a read in itself. tpein's play is utter shit to the point i can't tell if it was just shit or if he was scum. that is comparable to how i felt about psychic's slot last game. last game i chose not to shoot her to shoot you. that wasn't behaviour as it was in done in my private messages/head, not in the game thread.
outside of that can you answer the questions i had for you in my quotes.
i chose to push both.
Off the top of my head I got CP/REM as my top town reads
Nat/Flower/Ekko/Tweet as my lighter ones. Could maybe throw Melkor on there too...maybe
my problem with this game so far is im having a hard time reading people town
1. Ultra
2. Melkor
6. REM
7. CP
15. Ekko
16. Imposter (this is weak as it was mostly for liking the way he changed his stance on Melkor and knowing its doc ive pretty much just put him as not really in my direct poe atm)
I probably will have tweet here tho too as we were pretty much on the same wavelength at EoD, in terms of both lethal and flower
1. Ultra
2. Melkor
6. REM
7. CP
15. Ekko
16. Imposter (this is weak as it was mostly for liking the way he changed his stance on Melkor and knowing its doc ive pretty much just put him as not really in my direct poe atm)
I probably will have tweet here tho too as we were pretty much on the same wavelength at EoD, in terms of both lethal and flower
can you clarify something, do you think if pein was my teammate and chose not to claim, all id go out of my way to save him?
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