Game Elden Ring Mafia

[Poyser]

do u have scum reads other than aurelian atm?

You ain’t looking so hot right now!

 

[Alco]

I'm uneasy with Black Legged Dragon's approval, btw. Something about his exchange with Poyser doesn't sit well with me though I can't really explain why. (this is the hmm emoji here lmao)

 

[Emil]

I'm saying that's how it comes off as when you talk to me like that. I feel like your tone and attitude is fine for a lot of other players, I just think that with our shared experiences throughout the years, sometimes you talk to me like I'm a dummy and that can be hard for me to work with you or solve your slot. I feel like you get into this strict Mafia mindset and that's how you deal with everyone. I'm not offended or triggered or anything dumb like that, just feel like sometimes you take such an aggressive approach with how you converse with everyone, even if you have a lengthy past and friendship with them.

ur read on poyser is noted but id rather he stays rn. i'll let u know if i see him as scum as well. i think the fang wagon is meh at best rn so expecting something better

 

[RDK]

okay i misinterpreted the expansion part

but i for sure did not misinterpret "or not use them altogether"

Well no I'm not saying anyone misinterpreted that second part. I'm saying that sussing it while willingly ignoring the part you did misinterpret is questionable.

 

[Ultra]

Where are all these "Fang" apologists coming from suddenly?

What is the point of this post

 

[Ratchet]

I’m not sure I’d buy that he’s already read the thread and faking a catch-up if that’s what you mean

With the disclaimer that he could do this as town, I'm pretty certain he is asking questions he knows the answer to. The "are you Fang" comment was far too on the nose, especially when we are to believe he was only a handful of posts in and there was nothing in that post he quoted that would be an easy identifier. He probably is reading the thread and responding to posts as he goes, but some of his catch up is performative.

 

[Alco]

ur read on poyser is noted but id rather he stays rn. i'll let u know if i see him as scum as well. i think the fang wagon is meh at best rn so expecting something better

this is a bit defensive

u r fang btw right?

you're saying the wagon is "meh" at best but one of your first posts on here was this one right here^ . Which is one of the reasons we're voting him. So what is it?

 

[Alco]

What is the point of this post

It's remarkable that multiple people now are saying "hey wait a minute he's actually always pretty defensive" when that's been one of our reasons for voting him for hours. Add to that that the feller is not even around and it looks a bit like deflection efforts to me.

 

[Ratchet]

Well no I'm not saying anyone misinterpreted that second part. I'm saying that sussing it while willingly ignoring the part you did misinterpret is questionable.

I think this may be the issue - I wasn't bringing it up to say it's suspicious, just to say that the suggestion was nonsense. You can argue that is redundant and a waste of time, probably fairly, but that's the reasoning I have.

 

[Dr. Watson]

use fang to distract from the thread and let him hang around as a scummy read if he's town

@Poyser

this is what i mean

not just fang, but any possible town (or scum bad at being scum but protected by scummates if they redirect a lynch) can be further used to exploit town paranoia

there have been games im in some scum players have done exactly this

yes the general and universal role tends to be "cop will protect regardless"
but because we haven't lynched scum yet, we don't know what the scum team's strat actually is. and it can be revealed that they're thinking creatively and beyond the norm. ultra and ratchet are good examples of this
if he theoretically rolls scum, there's a higher likelihood he'd go for players that are extremely town read to trigger even more paranoia and gain an upper hand in order to manipulate people's future reads
if yoshi flips scum, then a newbie, then a a player very nervous about being scum (it was suspected lethal is like this), then your theory is the most likely

but because we don't have an actual flip or details on scum strat this game, neither of us - meaning you and i and just about anyone - can't see unless there's a flip
then we can see what interactions are being made, how players are reacting, and what that may mean
If your theory is correct after a flip, it'd mean yes, the doc should and most likely will protect the accused
if my theory is correct and someone like yoshi is being coached, then the doc might have to rethink what their own strat is (disclaimer: it's ultimately up to them)

sometimes it's a simple game of 2d chess, sometimes it's a complex game of 69D chess

this really applies to day 1 and 2, because later phases show more substantial info and things come to way more light
but we're walked in blind
and for some players that are very skilled, they may think ahead - especially targeting specific players that they feel threatened by indirectly to throw them off the trail using more than just basic mechanics and mafia norms

 

[Ratchet]

It's remarkable that multiple people now are saying "hey wait a minute he's actually always pretty defensive" when that's been one of our reasons for voting him for hours. Add to that that the feller is not even around and it looks a bit like deflection efforts to me.

I think your conclusion is fair, but who in your mind would you say has done this? Myself, several hours ago... Ultra, and Ekko?

 

[Dr. Watson]

Well no I'm not saying anyone misinterpreted that second part. I'm saying that sussing it while willingly ignoring the part you did misinterpret is questionable.

fair
i just didn't remember properly lol

that's on me

 

[Ultra]

It's remarkable that multiple people now are saying "hey wait a minute he's actually always pretty defensive" when that's been one of our reasons for voting him for hours. Add to that that the feller is not even around and it looks a bit like deflection efforts to me.

Well his identity was not ascertained before.

 

[Emil]

It's more nuance than that mate, you've reacted badly to my suspicion, and the level of the reaction doesn't match the degree of my initial observation.

does knowing that he is fang change ur perspective on this? u have seen him urself

 

[Alco]

I think your conclusion is fair, but who in your mind would you say has done this? Myself, several hours ago... Ultra, and Ekko?

Yea, Ekko doing it just a few posts ago is what ultimately ticked me off

 

[RDK]

I think this may be the issue - I wasn't bringing it up to say it's suspicious, just to say that the suggestion was nonsense. You can argue that is redundant and a waste of time, probably fairly, but that's the reasoning I have.

Well yeah- if that's your reasoning then my next question would be what's the point, but seems like you're already aware that it was a bit of a redundant comment. Still very cautious to the fact you selectively scrutinized one of his posts but I think this subject has probably run its course

 

[RDK]

does knowing that he is fang change ur perspective on this? u have seen him urself

I can't say I have much recollection of Fang at all

 

[Emil]

What has he brought to the table to discuss that you think is gonna stay the wagon?

u can continue scum hunting while he is away, so he shouldnt really be a hold up. asking for claims is just lazy and not the right way to solve him. he can come back and scum hunt or defend himself some more later

 

[Emil]

With a game this size we can afford to pursue around three claims a day without too much risk. We're about 1/4 into the day, so when should we be pursuing claims in your opinion? I would think at around that halfway point (about 8 hours from now) would be the fairest time... but Aurelian also said he wouldn't be around for about that length of time, so getting it now isn't unreasonable.

move on then until hes back

anyone else u scum read?

 

[Ratchet]

u can continue scum hunting while he is away, so he shouldnt really be a hold up. asking for claims is just lazy and not the right way to solve him. he can come back and scum hunt or defend himself some more later

Ekko you have played... how many majority lynch games?