Game Elden Ring Mafia

[Dr. Watson]

ty dobby

 

[Dr. Watson]

doddsy

 

[Emil]

I don't fully agree with that reasoning as I can see why he would go to bus right away from how that all sort of shook out. If I remember right, Yoshi was hard defending him and then got questioned on it, so voted, and then they started going at each other a bit more.

Mmmm, I find it very hard to buy that Dung Eater would be a pro town indy. 5 bodies specifically makes a lot of sesne flavour wise, but it makes a lot more sense if you're the SK here to be honest.

Why Lethal?

Agreed


You think Poyser is teamed with Aurelian, saw him fake claim indy and people not really move off, then decided it was a good idea for him to also fake claim indy?

Depends which version of Sellen, anyone who's done her quest knows what I mean

Can you elaborate on why Ekko can't be scum re: Aurelian?

Why Lethal and CP together?

defense of lethal day 2 wagon detected here

 

[Emil]

To be fair to Lethal on that point, this is generally how he will react when pressured as either alignment

Don't see how Lethal claims this if he's scum to be honest. Easily provable if he survives. Probably shouldn't have claimed the last part either way.

Could maybe be an alternative claim for a Golden Order blacksmith but I don't believe there are any. I think each character largely creates their own weapon.


What about it screams fake to you?

Most of this argument is a large dead zone for anything useful IMO, as it's mostly just fightning and the same points getting repeated over and over. Although BPD looks worse of the two coming out of it at the stage I'm up to, as their doesn't seem to be much genuine consideration of what's being said, regarding both the claim and Poyser's stuff about his vote on Aurelian.

another defense of lethal uh oh

 

[Dr. Watson]

noooo this stupid fucking game

keep forgetting to try to crash

 

[Doddsy]

ty dobby

Never call me dobby again, hate that little elf

defense of lethal day 2 wagon detected here

I don't think I was in anyway subtle that I didn't think Lethal was scum at the time

 

[Doddsy]

another defense of lethal uh oh

I mean I can save you the time I'm pretty sure I outright said I wasn't going to lynch him

 

[Dalton]

Good night!

@Dalton Soul is one vote away from hammer and Doddsy is voting for him. If Lethal isn't back soon to hammer, make sure you do it before scum pull anything tricky.

hold up am i hammer?

I don't want to be poisoned and doddsy has sussed me all phase so clearly has an excuse not to heal me

 

[Emil]

lethals wagon

Vote Lethal

@Lethal

lean town

Only seen bits but heading back into work.

This is where I'm at until I readback when I finish

vote Lethal

lean town

Haven't caught up yet but

Vote lynch lethal

confirmed town

Vote Lynch Lethal

Seems to be projecting when people accuse him as scum, and has accused others of gaslighting him.

lean town

[Vote lynch Lethal]

missed this post

lean town

Just wanted to quickly share my thoughts/findings before I catch up.

First, on Fang:

So it looks like Fang claimed indie out of sheer necessity. That's the only reasonable explanation I can think of I had assumed there's no reason for mafia to do so, but if he has no (free) fake claims available, he either faces the risk of getting counterclaimed in a sea of townies vs claiming an indie which probably exists but won't step up to risk correcting him.

Or at least that *would* be the risk calculus, if it weren't for the presence of Generic Townies. My best guess is that he wasn't aware those actually existed before he bluffed a power role early on, and then he ended up putting himself into a corner.

In short I think I misread him because of a misplaced assumption, and because I gave him too much credit. Interesting stuff.

---

Next, Lethal.

So I was ISO'ing Lethal in the night and I think he strikes me as a really likely partner candidate for Fang

Here are quotes from his ISO either mentioning Fang, or context surrounding him. It's a bit scarce, but:





Notice that these two mentions aren't real reads or leans, they're just observations without implicating him. Instead of explaining why he suspects Fang, he just explains why he suspects Ekko by association. If youlook at the rest of his posts he does due diligence for why he suspects players like Ekko/Tweet/Me but there's 0 depth here. And that's suspicious because a partner of Fang is less likely to have genuine progression, and more likely to feel the obligation to read him as scum but treat it as an afterthought and place the focus on players they can develop as suspects.

Now on to the juicier stuff:



A similar pattern emerges here, where Fang gets maybe barely implicated, but Lethal does not miss the opportunity to tie it to another player. Tied with a bow by a complete nonsense conclusion about a Fang/Yoshi/Ultra scum team.

Now the reason why this is a major red flag is because *Fang has already claimed Ind and Lethal is well aware of this*. So I think this is a big TMI slip. There's no reason for Lethal to be thinking in the dimensions of partnerships with Fang not only claiming, but by his own admission, he believed him!:



Finally, votes are a good indication of where his skin-in-the-game lies, and his pattern at EoD was to Vote Ekko, then hop on the Tweet wagon when it appeared, and then only lynched Fang at the last possible second:























^ Cherry on top is that if you look at the vote counter, he's not even the one who hammered.

Others have brought up how his behavior is suspicious in general, lots of activity excuses “I’m catching up (despite coming across as well informed)”, etc. But I think this in particular is pretty damining

[Vote lynch Lethal]

I also think his flip will offer some indirect info about Tweet which is good.

confirmed town

shud be at like 7 now? still far

vote lynch lethal

town (my PoV)

@Black Pegged Dragon, @Ultra, Yes...

Unvote

Vote Lynch Lethal

yoshi unvoted to vote poyser cuz he was outed dung eater then revoted again. lean town

Did my vote not count or was I blocked?

[Vote lynch Lethal]

ultra's first vote didn't count so voted again. confirmed town

 

[Emil]

alco sticked to tweet - didnt vote lethal
doddsy defended him instead

then the case on ultra came and the wagon diffused

i will note soul killer voted after people start unvoting

 

[Emil]

He cracked me. He was relentless and pushed his scum targets, just like he said he would!

but i didnt go back and check his list yet :(

 

[The X]

defense of lethal day 2 wagon detected here

Doddsy came at me D2 for the dumbest reasons and that's when I stared sussing him.

 

[Dalton]

@Grammaton can we get a vote count pls

 

[Emil]

I'm hoping that when I wake up, we'll be warming ourselves from this cold winter with some nice new wolf mittens.

least we could get is a serpent leather shoes

 

[Lethal]

Vote: Soulkiller

My secret is - I have another gift to craft :)

 

[The X]

hold up am i hammer?

I don't want to be poisoned and doddsy has sussed me all phase so clearly has an excuse not to heal me

Maybe @Retrolize can unvote, you can vote, and then she can hammed. Noted that @Lethal has ran away again.

 

[The X]

Starting to understand policy lynches now.

 

[Dalton]

Maybe @Retrolize can unvote, you can vote, and then she can hammed. Noted that @Lethal has ran away again.

we good fam, lethalbae hammered

 

[The X]

but i didnt go back and check his list yet :(

Fuck so I slipped for no reason??

 

[Lethal]

Ohhhhh so dragon and ekko gonna take the piss on me now? Alrighty then, I’m going back to dinner. Yummy meatballs