Hans Tweetenberg
Exceptional
Did I stutter?
Did I stutter?
Elaborate
votes evans without providing a reasonVote Evans
says he wants to compare notes
starts talking to evans about the ppl he sussesCould you rank them in sussness from your pov?
I mean that seems a low bar?
questions ur assessment of evansBut I mean, if you think his play sucks (and fwiw, he is actually capable of making really good deductions, he’s just rash and impulsive and it kills his ability to persuade) then why apply an objective quality standard to his play and suspect him for seemingly missing it?
ok... he finally says y hes voting evans and its for fluffHave you not seen me play as town before?
When do I ever partake in or show mercy to fluff, particularly over-egged fluff?
ok hes questioning u for ur reasoning for voting evans agnWell, there’s just a hole in it from a logical POV imo
idk what this -1 point is-1, don’t like the creation of a dichotomy this early
questions aurelians thinking hereDo you actually think hes in survival mode?
then immediately says aurelian is townFor better or worse, I very much do not think Aurelian is scum as it stands
No comments on anything?I've read everything while I was distracted at the same time and was lost at times when reading.
Did I stutter?
Haven't wrapped my head around the case at all but making the case at all strikes me as town Evans believing he's on to somethingFinished work.
I'm reading the last bits but I'm confident with a
Vote Ultra
Initially, I thought his push on me had some genuine belief about it when I rated the votes on me per Odos request. But there's been some posts since that's got me reordering that list.
First, let's look at this lack of explanation from his chat with Odo & me about myself.
Holds me at a dramatically low standard of mafia player tier and he expects game solving in the fluff stage? Unreasonably high expectations considering at the level he sees me as, as a a player.
Now, when addressed about what exactly he's "pushing" myself and that's loose at best. A careful ISO & read will show it's a lot of puffed out chest and insults but not much actual solving against my posts.
I don't think this is too far astray from any other entrance posts into the game?
Let's look here now, I made a jab about Ekko spamming the thread, clearly fluffing but apparently vague and no direction. Which, tbf? The no direction comment is absolutely true. I was fluff posting whilst in work lmao. I even addressed this with my post saying "No, it's for my own mental health" after last game was a nice change with Ekko and not sifting through 2000 posts of spam.
But if it was a serious shade at Ekko, 30 posts into the game - then how is that lacking direction? It's a very odd comment to make when there was a targeted comment at another player and their meta.
The post that really got me thinking though, was this one:
The man, early game jumped into this level of exaggeration to suggest that I'm saying that he should make NO attempt at reading me when I challenged him knowing my meta. Considering the shit that just came out of him about me being a shit player and him being so much better. Why does such a gap in ability require such a vast exaggeration other than to make me look bad?
Look at the interaction here that lead to this comment:
Also, Ultra was town last game and was not this aggressive. I played that game too. Surely his behaviour would have been similar this game towards myself? Whilst post content makes a difference somewhat, the level of aggression that's been stepped up this game is VERY different.
It looks like he's taken some shitty fluff posts as an excuse to try and set me up for some shit whilst delivering very little content about why he's voting me and just talked down to me about his ability compared to mine.
Wdym by that?that this vote is based
call it gut but he just feels too side-steppy
Vote lynch Gram
Oh okay there we arevotes evans without providing a reason
says he wants to compare notes
starts talking to evans about the ppl he susses
questions ur assessment of evans
ok... he finally says y hes voting evans and its for fluff
(note: he started voting evans after evans made 5 posts)
ok hes questioning u for ur reasoning for voting evans agn
i find it weird that he is unhappy with ur reasoning when his whole vote is purely based on evans fluffing
actually, im pretty sure ekko has a higher fluff to post ratio than evans yet gram who is very much against fluff ignores that
idk what this -1 point is
just say its scummy if thats what u think, otherwise it just looks a bit meaningless
questions aurelians thinking here
then immediately says aurelian is town
I wishtweet gives me bad vibes too
im gonna add him to the scum pile with gram
But why did you choose that post to base your entrance on?I just woke up
But why did you choose that post to base your entrance on?
This might be the best post I've ever seen you make. This is compelling.Finished work.
I'm reading the last bits but I'm confident with a
Vote Ultra
Initially, I thought his push on me had some genuine belief about it when I rated the votes on me per Odos request. But there's been some posts since that's got me reordering that list.
First, let's look at this lack of explanation from his chat with Odo & me about myself.
Holds me at a dramatically low standard of mafia player tier and he expects game solving in the fluff stage? Unreasonably high expectations considering at the level he sees me as, as a a player.
Now, when addressed about what exactly he's "pushing" myself and that's loose at best. A careful ISO & read will show it's a lot of puffed out chest and insults but not much actual solving against my posts.
I don't think this is too far astray from any other entrance posts into the game?
Let's look here now, I made a jab about Ekko spamming the thread, clearly fluffing but apparently vague and no direction. Which, tbf? The no direction comment is absolutely true. I was fluff posting whilst in work lmao. I even addressed this with my post saying "No, it's for my own mental health" after last game was a nice change with Ekko and not sifting through 2000 posts of spam.
But if it was a serious shade at Ekko, 30 posts into the game - then how is that lacking direction? It's a very odd comment to make when there was a targeted comment at another player and their meta.
The post that really got me thinking though, was this one:
The man, early game jumped into this level of exaggeration to suggest that I'm saying that he should make NO attempt at reading me when I challenged him knowing my meta. Considering the shit that just came out of him about me being a shit player and him being so much better. Why does such a gap in ability require such a vast exaggeration other than to make me look bad?
Look at the interaction here that lead to this comment:
Also, Ultra was town last game and was not this aggressive. I played that game too. Surely his behaviour would have been similar this game towards myself? Whilst post content makes a difference somewhat, the level of aggression that's been stepped up this game is VERY different.
It looks like he's taken some shitty fluff posts as an excuse to try and set me up for some shit whilst delivering very little content about why he's voting me and just talked down to me about his ability compared to mine.
I'm trying to read a bit now (but I want to play NHL). You get around to responding the Evans' wallie on you?He just woke up 6 hours ago leave him alone!!!
How much do you wolf read Evans?I genuinely cannot find a thread here to help me understand how you're scum reading me.
You had some awkward entrance posts. I voted you. Gram came in and asked if it was too low of a bar, I said no.
If there's little content about why I'm voting you - that's categorical. Your thread exit was what, 100 posts in?
Then you ghost and waltz in here after a leave of absence with a case. Not sure what to make of that.
I'm trying to read a bit now (but I want to play NHL). You get around to responding the Evans' wallie on you?
I did like the amount of effort he put into. I like seeing Evans fire up his game and that excites me. For one way or another, my gut tells me Evans (and Fang) might be town here, so I'm going to lean town. I'm wondering if there's a point to Evans saying you are beating your chest a bit, though. Do you feel like this is a wolf tell of yours??I did. It's trash, and he's implying he's already done something to me or is vengeful and as such he's trash. He's less likely to be scum, I suppose.
My only real gripe is it's convenient that he's voting for me positionally and he has suddenly taken issue with me over anyone else in his wagon when I'm already in the lead with a case he spent some effort trying to shore up
I did like the amount of effort he put into. I like seeing Evans fire up his game and that excites me. For one way or another, my gut tells me Evans (and Fang) might be town here, so I'm going to lean town. I'm wondering if there's a point to Evans saying you are beating your chest a bit, though. Do you feel like this is a wolf tell of yours??
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