Game Elden Ring Mafia

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Ok, what possessed you to act like you’re “fine” lynching a flipped mafia, but opened up your vote to “anything else” whilst not even having one suggestion? What else were you hoping was gonna happen?

you’re back to scum reading Ekko now, but at last update before the end of last day phase you said he’d “improved” and you weren’t really feeling it any more. Now he’s scum again. Explain your progression?

My opinion on Ekko changed because I thought I noticed him sounding more aggressive around Aurelian which is more in line with what I know from his town game, but when I thought it over lying in bed I thought, huh is he actually that different or is it just because he could sink his teeth into some flavor stuff that made it seem that way? So I've come to backtrack on backtracking if you will.

As for that post surrounding Aurelian Idk man, I made those posts yesterday and instantly knew they were dogshit but posted em anyway. I was still slightly on the fence mainly because I was the town indy in GoT so I definitely believed that a role like that could be in the game, but also Ekko seemed to insinuate that he has reason to believe the claim. I can't say I followed their conversation very well, not least cause I got no theme knowledge, but that was also a reason I thought Ekko might be town after all, the fact he evidently had a claim prepared already. Which now that I think of it, Ekko and claiming is... yeah. Either way I didn't wanna vote Aurelian only to be greeted with "yeah he's the town indy and you of all people should have known a role like that was in the game, Varys".

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

I'm not suggesting it's personal, just that from my perspective I should be someone you can work with. You could, for example, looking into Ultra and T-Pein, and post your observations around them - maybe we can find common ground. Instead, you choose to be angsty to everyone, which strikes me as more performative as a result.

I still got Ultra as town, a lot of which is based on tone. Idk the guy but he seems to me like he has this self-understanding that he's the one in the drivers seat which I associate with townies a lot.

T-Pein, I can't say I really read his posts.

 

[Poyser]

I'm fairly distrustful of roles that target the dead, especially in themes that seem like they would lend themselves naturally to Necromancy. I'm willing to give some benefit of the doubt here due to the fact you claimed under no obligation to do so, though. I can accept it for now.

I mean I’m pretty sure I do the opposite of bring them back to life

 

[Emil]

This is a bad argument, Ekko. If Tweet and RDK are Town, Mafia going all in on them would save Aurelian for a day, but he would be right back in the firing line tomorrow, and on top of that when he eventually flips scum, those who went all in on his counter wagon that resulted in a mislynch look very guilty by association. Scum don't just need to win Day 1.

I do think he was bussed by several scum mates. At least eventually. He could have used his Duelist (I need to re-read the role in case it has a restriction) to force a lynch between him and Yoshi or something, but he didn't. So the role just got wasted.

he didnt use duellist because we have another scum in the ropes - tweet and RDK

and no. my point is pretty fair. the wagon on tweet was mostly formed by townies with maybe 1-2 scum on it. it could have exexuted him if he
was town

its easy for mafia to shed doubts on a player and cause his wagon to grow without even voting them. tweet was semi inactive and already suspected. his wagon being used as an execute was the easiest shite ever and it wud hardly incriminate mafia directly. all they needed was 6 votes i belive


or simply if tweet was town aureliom can claim the duel as part of his indie role and duel yoshi while we lynch tweet. ofcourse they wont do that

 

[Ratchet]

My opinion on Ekko changed because I thought I noticed him sounding more aggressive around Aurelian which is more in line with what I know from his town game, but when I thought it over lying in bed I thought, huh is he actually that different or is it just because he could sink his teeth into some flavor stuff that made it seem that way? So I've come to backtrack on backtracking if you will.

As for that post surrounding Aurelian Idk man, I made those posts yesterday and instantly knew they were dogshit but posted em anyway. I was still slightly on the fence mainly because I was the town indy in GoT so I definitely believed that a role like that could be in the game, but also Ekko seemed to insinuate that he has reason to believe the claim. I can't say I followed their conversation very well, not least cause I got no theme knowledge, but that was also a reason I thought Ekko might be town after all, the fact he evidently had a claim prepared already. Which now that I think of it, Ekko and claiming is... yeah. Either way I didn't wanna vote Aurelian only to be greeted with "yeah he's the town indy and you of all people should have known a role like that was in the game, Varys".

I can jive with this thought process, for what it's worth.

 

[Emil]

You could, idk, try to play along and do something? We have your claim, but your reads and position are very shaky

:reigns3

I don't even know what to do with this

its a pretty fair point actually

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

That "I'm not gonna vote Aurelian" post I made...

Man I wish I could produce a post like that as the Jester someday, I couldn't sound more wishy-washy if I tried lmao.

Which is kinda my point as well, I'd like to think that if I was Aurelians teammate, I'd commit to a stronger stance on him and at least get something out of it other than "well this post is as sketchy as can be and the first thing we'll examine tomorrow".

 

[Emil]

Ultra, distancing from Aurelian.

yes its very possible. i thought he was the 2nd most person to try to figure aurelion's claim after me but there is nothing that points to it not being distancing

 

[Ratchet]

I mean I’m pretty sure I do the opposite of bring them back to life

Probably so, but I'm mostly using necromancy as a fill-in term for interacting with/stealing the abilities of the dead. The best anti-case I have is you can collect dead roles/votes as some sort of Serial, but this is obviously undermined by the fact you claimed yesterday without needing to, and that, if you just wanted to be left alone, you could claim you just need to loot 5 bodies instead of also saying you need to eliminate the Golden Order (which gives them incentive to target you). I believe your claim, in other words, it just makes me uneasy.

 

[Poyser]

Ekko why the fuck are you operating under the assumption that mafia have an execute

 

[Alco]

It's almost like there's an abundance of precedent for me drawing VT, playing a half-assed game and getting mislynched for it

I'm not sure I agree with your self-assessment here, because you didn't really indicate during D1 that you weren't motivated or anything.

You just became self-aware of being "wishy washy" because others had pointed out your weak entrance.

So I think you're fitting your claim into a new narrative here.

 

[The X]

That lethal readback struck me as pretty batshit

why he would go to “bus” first option between Yoshi and Aurelian legit makes no sense

he also used my point about Ekko to shade Ekko but my post was clearly posted under the assumption that Aurelian wasn’t gonna flip mafia. I specifically said “I don’t think Ekko would believe he could stop the lynch so he probably wanted to look good from the flip” which makes no sense now with what Aurelian flipped so what’s he agreeing with?

I agree with this. Let's put some pressure on Lethal.

Vote Lethal

 

[Emil]

It’s not really the wording that bothers me it’s the attitude. Last game you did your level best to stop me being cleared as town despite the fact it was obvious and here you’re doing the same with RDK. He literally jumped on aurelians first post and turned on the pressure. It makes no sense at all as a teammate interaction

yall can clear RDK if u want i just dont see it. its my opinion at the end of the day. i have another issues with his play unrelated to the flip

i am only willing to give him a chance cuz of the flip

 

[Poyser]

Yeah idk if I’m feeling a tweet lynch here actually. He doesn’t really feel like scum here

 

[Ratchet]

he didnt use duellist because we have another scum in the ropes - tweet and RDK

and no. my point is pretty fair. the wagon on tweet was mostly formed by townies with maybe 1-2 scum on it. it could have exexuted him if he
was town

its easy for mafia to shed doubts on a player and cause his wagon to grow without even voting them. tweet was semi inactive and already suspected. his wagon being used as an execute was the easiest shite ever and it wud hardly incriminate mafia directly. all they needed was 6 votes i belive


or simply if tweet was town aureliom can claim the duel as part of his indie role and duel yoshi while we lynch tweet. ofcourse they wont do that

Also possible, yes, but again Mafia would have to commit to saving their scum buddy at the risk of getting themselves caught pretty easily. I do think the lack of duel implies it was a concerted bus effort, though. I agree there.

 

[Emil]

My opinion on Ekko changed because I thought I noticed him sounding more aggressive around Aurelian which is more in line with what I know from his town game, but when I thought it over lying in bed I thought, huh is he actually that different or is it just because he could sink his teeth into some flavor stuff that made it seem that way? So I've come to backtrack on backtracking if you will.

As for that post surrounding Aurelian Idk man, I made those posts yesterday and instantly knew they were dogshit but posted em anyway. I was still slightly on the fence mainly because I was the town indy in GoT so I definitely believed that a role like that could be in the game, but also Ekko seemed to insinuate that he has reason to believe the claim. I can't say I followed their conversation very well, not least cause I got no theme knowledge, but that was also a reason I thought Ekko might be town after all, the fact he evidently had a claim prepared already. Which now that I think of it, Ekko and claiming is... yeah. Either way I didn't wanna vote Aurelian only to be greeted with "yeah he's the town indy and you of all people should have known a role like that was in the game, Varys".

i wanted aurelions claim so i can google the character and see if it makes sense for him to target my flavor and if he is towny or not. if he has a fake claim it shudnt be a problem to claim so why didnt he? idk

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

I'm not sure I agree with your self-assessment here, because you didn't really indicate during D1 that you weren't motivated or anything.

You just became self-aware of being "wishy washy" because others had pointed out your weak entrance.

So I think you're fitting your claim into a new narrative here.

I was self-aware of how crappy my posts were before Poyser made a push for me. I know CP said something like "riveting stuff, Tweet" but that was before people really looked my way.

 

[Poyser]

@Big Man did you catch up during night fella

 

[Ratchet]

i wanted aurelions claim so i can google the character and see if it makes sense for him to target my flavor and if he is towny or not. if he has a fake claim it shudnt be a problem to claim so why didnt he? idk

Did you google his character in the end?

 

[Emil]

That "I'm not gonna vote Aurelian" post I made...

Man I wish I could produce a post like that as the Jester someday, I couldn't sound more wishy-washy if I tried lmao.

Which is kinda my point as well, I'd like to think that if I was Aurelians teammate, I'd commit to a stronger stance on him and at least get something out of it other than "well this post is as sketchy as can be and the first thing we'll examine tomorrow".

who do u scum read on ur wagon btw. surely u have more than just ekko