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do u see how i treated fang's claim. i prodded him using the info i had. i was hoping if u were town u wud do the same

im gna keep mentioning it because its inherently scummy. i have seen it very often that a scum vote their teammate after vote count

what have u guys discussed in ur convo? do u actually believe all 3 of u r town?
there's no reason to do that. he was either telling the truth about his role or he was scum in which case he could know about the rune mechanics through other means. it doesn't help to solve his alignment and gives away my role for no reason.

it's not scummy. once again you're just ignoring the possibility that I am town and simply scum read him. it's literally pointless to that as you get no credit for it.
 
Why are you so hung up on this? People ask questions in PMs and subs can read them. That is all.
because im trying to figure out if you're telling the truth? it's quite easy if the usage is not towny to justify it by saying a newbie doesn't understand how the role works.
 
there's no reason to do that. he was either telling the truth about his role or he was scum in which case he could know about the rune mechanics through other means. it doesn't help to solve his alignment and gives away my role for no reason.

it's not scummy. once again you're just ignoring the possibility that I am town and simply scum read him. it's literally pointless to that as you get no credit for it.
the possibility that u r town is there u have to walk me through it lol. i wouldnt be talking to u if i just locked u scum and made my mind to lynch u

the possibility is however very dim. i would be willing to extend the same hand i extend to ultra and see where u go today. i dont see myself giving u the same luxury i gave him because ur thread position is just much worst

u cant be frustrated at me. none really have u as a town read but the people in ur convo

im gna ask u again btw. how many shots is ur cop ability and couldnt u use it n1 and n3? have u done nothing n3 actually?
 
because im trying to figure out if you're telling the truth? it's quite easy if the usage is not towny to justify it by saying a newbie doesn't understand how the role works.
From my point of view it looks like you‘re just looking for an angle to push. I don‘t like this.
 
So, why not vote him Ekko?
because i just cant for the life of me see ultra as scum. while i have respect for his play idk how many times i have to say it lol like it wouldnt surprise me if he flip one and if he did he is playing such an excellent game but i just couldnt see myself voting him there

i needed to see more. i wanted the day to continue. i am very unhappy about people ending the day
 
because i just cant for the life of me see ultra as scum. while i have respect for his play idk how many times i have to say it lol like it wouldnt surprise me if he flip one and if he did he is playing such an excellent game but i just couldnt see myself voting him there

i needed to see more. i wanted the day to continue. i am very unhappy about people ending the day
Why are you Iwanposting now :life?
 
the possibility that u r town is there u have to walk me through it lol. i wouldnt be talking to u if i just locked u scum and made my mind to lynch u

the possibility is however very dim. i would be willing to extend the same hand i extend to ultra and see where u go today. i dont see myself giving u the same luxury i gave him because ur thread position is just much worst

u cant be frustrated at me. none really have u as a town read but the people in ur convo

im gna ask u again btw. how many shots is ur cop ability and couldnt u use it n1 and n3? have u done nothing n3 actually?
you misundertand what im saying. a lot of your case is just looking at the scum motivations for stuff i've done and ignored any town motivations may be present. it's not a good way to build a case.

I didn't do anything night 3. no reason to answer how many shots I have. rather keep scum guessing and it doesn't benefit town to know.
 
From my point of view it looks like you‘re just looking for an angle to push. I don‘t like this.
I can assure you I do not need to look for an angle to push as I have already provided my reasoning for reading your slot as scum and a few people agreed with it.
 
D2
Ultra Wagon: Lethal (Ultra), Arp (Poyser), Rugrat (Poyser), Tweet (Ekko) Evans (Ekko), Ratchet (Ultra), RDK (Ultra), Yoshi (Poyser), Alco (Ultra), Phenom (Poyser)
Non-Ultra Voters: BLD (Lethal-Poyser), TPein (Lethal-Poyser), Soulkiller (Lethal), Ekko (Lethal), CP (BPD), Doddsy (BPD)
Poyser Voters (For Reference): Phenom, Ultra, BLD, Tpein, Arp, Yoshi, Rugrat, Evans

So in D2, Ultra's wagon got to 11/12 needed votes. Out of those ten, only four stayed on Ultra until the end of D2 (Lethal, Ratchet, RDK, and Alco, who joined late on the Ultra wagon). Only five players did not place a vote on Ultra at EOD (BLD, Tpein, Soul, Ekko, Doddsy). Ratchet is confirmed town while Tweet has a mech confirm on his VT. I believe Arp and Yoshi are town based on reads (don't think anyone is really reading them otherwise). That leaves us six names on the Ultra wagon.

*Ratchet's case on Ultra came on post 4248 and the first vote is Lethal's at post 4290
**Poyser was the sixth vote on Ultra's wagon, but I didn't include him because he's dead harmful indie
***Should be noted, we got a VC when Lethal had eight votes and Ultra has six votes. Motivation might change seeing the actual VC in thread
****Ultra claims at post 4526 while L-2.
*****Poyser unvotes making it L-3 late in the day. This is where the wagon finally stalls out.

Scum POE: Lethal, Rugrat, Evans, RDK, Phenom, Alco
Lethal: Admittedly, in a world where Lethal is scum, he can only be the GF. While this is still possible, and I think it might just be, it is a bit of a lower percentage. Lethal was first on Ultra's wagon 42 posts after Ratchet's case.

Rugrat: Really jumped on Ultra's wagon without warning. Third on it.
- Rugrat was the the first to jump off Ultra's wagon, similarly without another word said. Put Ultra at L-3
- Comes back into play to drop the eleventh vote on Ultra and put him at L-1. I think that with his constant posts asking for time, he would have been aware of being close to hammering Ultra
- Rugrat also tried to angle shoot Ultra hard by posting a screenshot of Gram saying he hated hiders. Dirty trick and then Rugrat claims to not know what angle shoot means later
- This boy literally unvotes and makes it L-2. Feels like he's scared to be near hammer and wants to claim he was wary.

Evans: Fifth on the wagon but does justify it. Went from going at Lethal D1, coming around to Lethal's town meta, then votes Ultra with Lethal. Interesting progression to note.
- Second to jump off the wagon after it stalls for good and votes Ekko

RDK: Eighth vote on the wagon, so L-4 away from hammer. RDK would know this because the VC is a couple of posts above his and RDK voted Ultra immediately after Ratchet did and did not say anything.
- I think this is a pretty bad vote because he just drops it close to hammer and says nothing around Ultra's slot. RDK drops a reason on why he voted Ultra

Phenom: Tenth vote and putting Ultra at L-2. Was he convinced enough by Ratchet's case? I don't know. Was quick to move to Poyser when Ultra stalled out.
- After the wagon stalls, Phenom jumps off and votes Ekko

Alco: Ask who to vote for on post 4469 and on post 4504 RDK said Ultra. Alco comes in and votes for Ultra on post 4609 to put Ultra back at L-2. I find this fairly suss on both parties. RDK, who said he wasn't wary of Ultra until late, feels comfortable enough directing Alco, who hasn't been around and seemingly doesn't care about almost hammering a townie. Feels bad.


Town Claims (Ratchet, Tweet)
Tweet: Fourth on the wagon with no reason.
- Tweet did seem to have some concern about how quickly Ultra's wagon picked up
- Tweet bringing up caution around the speed of the wagon again

Ratchet: Seventh vote** on Ultra. No surprise there about being happy with a wagon being off his case.


Town Reads (Arp, Yoshi)
Arp: Voted Ultra out of the blue without any real reason leading into it and was the second vote on the wagon.
- Unvotes Ultra

Yoshi: Ninth vote on Ultra, putting him at L-3. Yoshi was pretty weird around this saying scum was bussing Ultra? I guess maybe he meant that it felt like there was scum on Ultra's push. He says suss stuff at times, but I think he's still just newbie.


Honestly the ones coming out the worst for their votes are Rugrat, RDK, and Alco.


Non-Ultra Voters (BLD, Tpein, Soul, Ekko, CP, Doddsy
BLD: I voted for Lethal and then ended up on Poyser. I never did want an Ultra vote other than to move the on with the game. Never did vote for him and thought he was pretty townie in D3.

TPein: Voted Lethal initially and never moved his vote until it went on Poyser. He did vote for Ultra D3 (I have to reread why). Definitely could be scum thinking they're not needed on the wagon.

Soulkiller: Voted Lethal after he read me and Ultra's case on him. He was busy IRL during this time.

Ekko: Voted Lethal and missed EOD.

CP: Voted for me. If we believe his claim, he's just town here.

Doddsy: Voted for me and I thought to read the whole thread and come to that conclusion, it was weak. Didn't move his vote off of me.


I think Tpein and Doddsy were the two worse of the non-Ultra voters.



For reference as well, here are the voters of Ultra's mislynch.

CP, Rugrat, RDK, Alco, Phenom, Tpein, Evans, Lethal, Doddsy, Arp, Big Man, Ratchet

CP, Tpein, Doddsy, and Big Man are the new voters.
few comments. first i rly like this. thanks alot.

1. wat do u make of the people currently scum reading yoshi's slot? he isnt as wildly town read as u think
2. can arp be an indie u think?
3. no major comment on rugrat. i think ur statements r fair tbh. his claim is needed
4. RDK's reasons is one of the worst to vote for ultra imo, and he was one of the people ignoring/unable to hold interaction with ultra
5. i thought phenom could be townie pushing for poysers lynch but considering this is the ONLY lynch that he pushed this hard for this could be coming from an agenda PoV. he hasnt pushed anyone else half as hard lol. he rallied people for posyer but didnt dare do same for me or anyone else.
6. fair point on RDK and alco. i think one of them atleast is scum for sure. that interaction was too smooth for t/t
7. scum bussing ultra is a weird comment by yoshi tbh. not necessarily scummy. just kind of weird. ultra flipping town tells me atleast yoshi isnt part of a scum chat that r discussing bussing ultra. seems like yoshi has no idea ultra is town which reads genuine on him.
8. glad to see u coming around on CP. btw u forgot to talk about bigman at all in this post. whats ur read on them?
9. i think a claim from doddsy is due as well tbh
 
Maybe. I don't like how you're asking everyone and their mothers for claims this phase, though.
its day 4. there is no reason to not bring stuff in the table, specially from slots that have been very safe entire game

u already hinted at it. u might as well if its any help
 
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